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UFC 142 Results: Let Aldo Reign

Jose Aldo holding the flag of Clube de Regatas do Flamengo after defeating Chad Mendes at UFC 142. AP Photo/Felipe Dana

Jose Aldo holding the flag of Clube de Regatas do Flamengo after defeating Chad Mendes at UFC 142. AP Photo/Felipe Dana

To many fans and observers, the performance of Jose Aldo was a little bittersweet. Sweet because of his in-cage brilliance. And for a variety of reasons: avoiding the takedown with an effortless limp leg and immaculate balance, displaying no fear in throwing leg kicks against an elite wrestler, and the last sequence which ended the fight deserves its own emphasis.

Aldo's back is facing Chad Mendes with five seconds left in the first round. When Aldo breaks free, with his back still turned to Mendes, he grips Chad's right wrist with his right hand (hindering his ability to defend what was to come), swivels, and unleashes a knee that flatlines Mendes. It was the type of sequence that only the world's best could accomplish: an illustration of how MMA brilliance is defined by that momentary shift from one martial art to the next.

For most fighters MMA is a metaphysical struggle: the battle between revelation and reservation. 'To what degree can I keep my flaws to myself, and to what extent can I disclose the skills with which other men should fear?'

Aldo is different than his P4P contemporaries. He's not more accomplished. So let's clear that up. But his striking is not raw like Jon Jones, and his wrestling isn't lacking like Anderson Silva. If I were to focus on a word that describes Aldo, I can think of none better than 'ethereal'. Aldo isn't rattled by the sudden alterations of context inside the octagon.

If you can forgive this pretentious gushing, I'd ask that you forgive me once more because I think Aldo's post fight celebration was also important. If Aldo is to become a star in his homeland, what better gesture than to allow the Rio de Janeiro crowd to share in that victory by holding Aldo himself up above their shoulders? That moment will define him for the people of Brazil for years.

If there's a 'bitter' to all this, it's in thinking about Aldo's future at 145. 'What's the point?', I hear everyone saying. I agree to an extent. Right now the list of contenders are Hatsu Hioki, Dustin Poirier, Bart Palaszewski, Erik Koch, Chan Sung Jung, Jim Hettes, and perhaps the TUF star Diego Brandao will get his opportunity to be sacrificed in a year or two if he hits a nice winning streak. This is not exactly a murderer's row.

For guys like Hettes, and Poirier, it's simply too soon. For others like Jung, and Hioki, it's too life-threatening. But is a move to 155 really the solution?

For as interesting as the move might be, Aldo is only 25. Let him establish a real legacy while the division is still young. The problem with this line of thinking, that once a division has run out of contenders its champion needs to pack up his fists and leave, is that it can stagnate a division, leaving it without stars and history while giving it all to a division that already has it (well, minus the presence of 'stars').

The importance of being a star is that once you lose, it allows you to create new ones. Let Aldo be that star in the FW division. You're risking too much by having him move to LW. Not because he might lose, but because you'll have robbed a division of its only compelling fighter. You'll have robbed the division of the only question worth asking when watching a prospect, or contender make his own mark at 145: 'who can challenge Jose Aldo?'

SBN coverage of UFC RIO 142: Aldo vs. Mendes

Poll
Would you like to see Jose Aldo move to 155 or have him stay at 145?
Move to lightweight.
51 votes
Stay at featherweight.
148 votes

199 votes | Poll has closed

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Comments

I say let him dominate 145

Nobody looks like they will beat him but he hasn’t claned out the division yet.

Ethereal?

ETHEREAL as in LIKE ETHER, Jose puts people OUT.

If he leaves 145

Featherweight won’t be nearly as relevant.

I honestly can't see who can compete at 145

there was hope for Hioki but he looked terrible in his first fight in the UFC.

It's still

a fight worth making, but yea, Hioki will get smashed. In fact, Hioki would probably lose to Poireir and Koch as well. It’s just a terrible style matchup and always has been. Even when Aldo could use soccer kicks.

Aldo with soccer kicks would be too unfair with to anybody

I think that he can time a perfect kick whenever someone is going for a TD.

One bad match against Roop and Hioki is garbage

I still think Hioki would offer a challenge to Aldo. Maybe not….but I wanna see it when he beats Pal dude.

I didn't say Hioki

was garbage. I gave my opinion on who I think are bad matchups for him, and to me, Koch and Poireir are bad matchups. Both of whom are future contenders themselves.

I think Hioki needs to adjust his game badly. He is allowed to elbow when he mounts someone.

That said do we really think Hioki has the wrestling to put Aldo on his back? He might be able to survive the stand up because he is a pretty decent boxer overall and very good at using his range, but still.

I'm still high on the Korean zombie matchup

At least business wise for him and the UFC. A lot of people gonna watch and Aldo is gonna get another spectacular knockout and the casuals will be hooked. Then he can start dominating the actual challengers.

I like the fight

too, but I’m just no interesting in watching premeditated murder inside the cage…at least on principle. But it makes sense and the UFC can always play up the “Jung beat Hominick worse than Aldo” angle.

If the decorated wrestler can't compete

whats the blueprint for victory against him?

I think

Koch is a good fight for Aldo if he picks up a solid win after getting back from injury.

The Matt Hammil blueprint

hope for a DQ win.

To use MMA probably.

That or the dangerous and forbidden style of trap fighting.

idk if u find this relevant, but

all those people comparing Aldo to Anderson are wrong. if they give Aldo an advantage for TD defense, and put him over Andy in the p4p rankings, they don’t realize that there’s NO ONE in featherweight devision that hits like Hendo, NO ONE as good of a fighter as Chael P. Sonnen who just covers the distance with his straightforward moving, plus they have granite chins(hendo). so putting Aldo over Anderson is wrong. If Aldo moves to LW and beats everyone there, than I agree that he’s p4p #1. until then the spider all the way.

I dont know

What the guys at FWD give up in the areas you listed, they make up for in technique and speed. I still have Andy at #1 for now, but it’s tight.

Here’s my top 5:
1. Andy
2. Aldo
3. Jones
4. GSP
5. Edgar

I have it

1. Andy
2. GSP
3. Aldo
4. Jones
5. Edgar

But man this year of 2012 is going to be an exciting one. GSP is basically out for the year, Andy might fight only a couple of times again this year and Jones is talking about fighting 4 times again (that COULD be another possible 4 finishes, 8 in 2 years). So who knows how the pfp picture will look by January 2013. It could very well be:

1. Jones
2. Aldo
3. Silva
4. Edgar
5. GSP

Crazy shit imo.

You would have to outstrike him

Like I said when people were foolishly saying that Mendez had the style advantage, Aldo has historically eaten wrestlers alive. You would need to be able to outstrike him and outlast him. Test his cardio in the later rounds and poor it on.

I see MMA as it's own Marital Art.
He Should Fight on UFC on FOX 3

I said it last night in one of the threads, but while I’m usually against padding of records, giving Aldo some more exposure before a Mega-Fight would be nice. This fight last night could be a great springboard to promote him going into a fight on Fox. Sacrificing the Korean Zombie to Aldo wouldn’t be that incongruous if you take into consideration the current crop of fighters may not be able to give Aldo much of a test within the next year or two. By showcasing him on Fox in a stand up battle, against an opponent who just KO’d the man who gave Aldo his biggest test in under 15 seconds, it’s pretty easy promotion.

People keep saying the UFC needs to promote new stars, but they want their stars to step up in competition each fight. They need to keep them active and get them wins before they cash in on big money fights. This may be a theory best tested by Jones vs. Evans. If it still draws as big or bigger as projected previously, they may approach other big fights similarly.

This Felipe Dana got quite the epic photos from that night

Another one captured Rumble looking dead into the camera as Vitor was choking him out. And this Aldo one is just perfect. Perfectly epic.

I don't think he is the only compelling fighter at 145.

Piorier and Hettes, as you mentioned, are compelling as well. He is the only star though, that’s for sure.

Everyone I watch mma

Loves the Zombie. Is this not the same elsewhere? Before last night I had to constantly remind everyone that Aldo was not Cruz and vice versa. Moments like this make me wonder what a random person who doesn’t watch every event like me and 5 of my friends do. So much going on its hard to stay caught up.

The Korean Zombie is surprisingly well liked by even casual fans

It doesn’t hurt that his fights are usually very exciting.

Im big time sold on Hettes. He works on his striking a bit, look out.

It seems like the expected rush of UFC lightweights down to FW has slowed down. Griffin and Stevenson didn’t fair very well. Kenflo is already gone from FW. Pearson and Siver are at FW now, but haven’t proven anything yet. I expected to see the FW div open up more over the last year but Aldo’s dominance now makes it seem shallow.

Griffin losing to Bart was a major blow. I think Tyson would be easier to market than most FWs simply because he has been in the UFC for so long.
Florian did okay at FW. He was ranked and fought for the title, but I don’t think the cut was comfortable
Stevenson just went on a mad decline. Pearson looked alright in his debut, and hopefully Siver can comfortably make the cut

Florian actually did okay outside of the third round

He did get outstruck, but he didn’t really get killed.

That fence grab was a little weak and the KO might not have happened if he hadn't grabbed the fence.

But anyway.

Really dude?

I bothered me at the time.
I gotta say

It bothered me too. But I do agree it only delayed the inevitable

c’mon man, don’t be that guy

Well it wouldve happened the next round

Aldo was stuffing d’s effortlessly.

And he got put down some ten seconds after and got up instantly. Mended had no shot at winning, that goes for all rounds after as well.

Leave Aldo in the division for a while

BJ Penn ruined it for everyone moving up to fight GSP. Now everyone has to move up after dominating. Let him make a big name of himself smashing everyone for a year or so. If all else fails let him sit on the sidelines GSP/SILVA style while more contenders come up. In a years time alot can change. Look at the light heavyweight champion.

Maybe BJ Penn cuts down to 145 lol

The only thing I dislike about Aldo is the fact he is Chelsea Fan. Also with the situation at 135 a massacr——, I mean fight with Cruz could make some sense next year.

Champs moving up are a thing of the past, they make too much money now, there is too much at stake. Any good manager won’t let his champ move up.

I like Aldo too, but heres the thing: If you think Hominick won round 2 (very possible, upon rewatching the fight) and if you think round 5 was a 10-8 round (again, very possible), that fight was a draw. Aldo hit significantly harder in that fight, but honestly I thought Hominick was more accurate and technical, especially in the first half of the fight. IM NOT SAYING ALDO DIDNT WIN. I’m saying he isnt invincible. He is very likeable and fights an exciting style at times, so his every win is greeted with orgasmic glee and his poor performances are greeted with a million excuses as to why the fight didnt go according to “plan”. All I’m saying is: perspective, people.

I need to rewatch the Hominick fight but I recall finding it entertaining? Does a champion always need to completely dominate to be seen as good?

styles makes fight. try to imagine what a k-1 match between Chad Mendes and Mark Hominick would look like

no one is invincible

Aldo won the fight pretty clearly and he was completely gassed because he was sick and had a horrific time making weight for that fight. That being said he still won by a big enough margin in my eyes and Hominick is a tough SOB when he’s not throwing haymakers 2 secs into a fight.

Andy and GSP have both been BEATEN more times than Aldo has

And their dominance is rarely questioned. Even after nearly losing to Chael Andy is still undisputed (except by Chael). The only champ more dominant so far has been Jones.

I watched that fight yesterday before the ME

And no, Hominick didn’t do anything until the 5th round. Hit aldo a couple of times, but aldo hurt him every round and dropped him a couple times….. Watch the fight and not the stats next time.

I did. As evidenced by my saying in my original post that I just rewatched it the other day. Reading comprehension is your friend. Aldo did almost nothing in the second. People only remember the 3rd and 4th because they were so devastating (and they were ) but he got outstruck in round 2. Which of course means that if you think round 5 was a 10-8…..,etc etc etc. This isn’t Pride, it’s a 10 point must system, Aldo clearly won the fight overall, but scoring round by round, a strong case could be made for a draw. Then again, I give 10-8s a bit more liberally then most.

Aldo needs to stay at featherweight

A it gives casuals a star they can latch on to
B why move up to lightweight possibly lose to a mid level lightweight (who could most likely just drop to 145 anyway) or run roughshod over a division and get over big in Brazil.

Nice, well-writtten article
Either

Poirier or Koch will be the guy who eventually beats him, but not for at least two or three years since they’re both so green. So what does the UFC do with him in the meantime? Feed him the Zombie and Hioki, I guess, until they can set up a fight with Frankie Edgar. I understand the arguments for and against that fight, but wouldn’t it be worse to have him sitting on the shelf waiting for challengers? There’s nothing that says the fight has to be at 155, either — if Edgar is dethroned (not that I’m saying he will be), he could easily drop to 145, or they could even set it up as a catchweight fight at 150.

Poirer and Koch are young and will improve

So is Aldo. The guy’s 25. Koch and Poirer will both get smoked.

I don't think Koch would get smoked

I think he could do just as well as Hominick.

Exactly

But in three years, believe it or not, Aldo will be entering the downward phase of his career unless he’s a total freak. He’ll have been fighting professionally for almost eleven years by that point, and historically guys start to drop off between 9-11 years.

Even though Edgar is my favorite fighter

He is going to get dethroned sooner or later. The LW division is just too good.

agree

It will be difficult for LW to have a dominant champion for a while at least. It seems DFW is pushing for a drop to featherweight while Frankie is the champ. I can’t imagine how much he’ll push when Frankie loses

Yeah

At some point he’s going to run into someone who has the right combination of style, size, and game plan. As you pointed out, given the depth of the division it’s going to happen.

Sooner

like a couple of weeks from now

Edgar is a bad matchup for Bendo

A great scrambling wrestler who can exploit his defensive boxing.

Too true

I see Edgar keeping his head on a swivel, staying out of trouble in scrambles and pasting Bendo with boxing.

Benson will make a fight out of it due his grit and cardio…but if Frankie is still putting combos together like he was in his last fight he will eventually wear Bendo out and finish him too.

I'm not sure Frankie finishes Bendo

but I see him picking Bendo apart with boxing. Benson could potentially use his size and grind Frankie but even if he takes him down, I think Frankie scrambles back to his feet and takes a decision in the end.

Personally I'm always wary of declarations that a champ has 'cleared out' their division

It looked like BJ had 155 sewn up until Edgar (who absolutely noone gave a chance the fight time round) came along. In MMA you never know when an upset’s coming. I mean, it wasn’t long ago we were ushering in the Machida era…

Meant "first time", not "fight time"

Doh

After Hioki, Koch & Poirier

Aldo should challenge Winner of Edgar/Henderson

Fantastic headline!

After I finally got round to watch the amazing documentary, Senna last night, I can’t help but love the unity amongst the Brazilian people. That kind of patriotism and hope is inspiring. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it.

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