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Cris 'Cyborg' Santos Appealing Suspension, April 9 Hearing Likely

Cris "Cyborg" Santos is appealing her one-year suspension from the California State Athletic Commission.

Cris "Cyborg" Santos is appealing her one-year suspension from the California State Athletic Commission.

SI.com's Loretta Hunt reported Monday night that Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos has begun the process of appealing her one year suspension from the California State Athletic Commission with CSAC Executive Officer George Dodd "likely" expecting an April 9th date to hear the appeal.

The then-Strikeforce 145-pound women's champion was suspended on January 6th after her December 17th annihilation of Hiroko Yamanaka when a pre-fight urine sample tested positive for the synthetic anabolic steroid Stanozolol. Santos would have been eligible to apply for her license to be reinstated on December 17, 2012.

Santos claimed that she had taken a supplement to assist with her weight cutting for the Yamanaka fight that turned out to be tainted. Soon after the suspension, Zuffa co-owner Dana White announced that Santos would be stripped of her title and that the future of the division within Strikeforce was in doubt.

The 26-year-old had returned to action for the first time in 18 months against Yamanaka, a 16-second destruction that was ruled a no-contest following the suspension. She had compiled a 10-1 record to that point, winning the 145-pound gold in August 2009 with a first round TKO over Gina Carano with successive wins over Marloes Coenen and Jan Finney.

Note: Hunt updated her story Tuesday afternoon with April 9 as the likely hearing date.

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Good fucking luck.

i really don't care. i just care to see Cyborg whipped the heck outta Ronda
Which is unlikely to happen

Ronda dumps her on her head and takes her arm home.

Why dont you like Ronda?

I think Ronda is the best thing to happen to womans MMA period(excuse the pun! :D) Shes talented, Olympic background which will gain respect in some usually non MMA circles, she’s very intelligent, a good talker/on camera personality. Hell I havn’t even got to hot yet. Most of all she’s created interest in womans MMA like no one since Gina.

I have little interest in seeing Cyborg return, not to be nasty to her but I really don’t see her as a woman no matter how much I think give her a chance. Deep down I feel uneasy like I’m watching domestic abuse.

I assume you wanted to reply to daftshadow right? Rousey is my favorite female fighter.

Ronda is meh...

And would get schooled by Cyborg, Roids or not.

Shit even she knew it thus the mega duckage and subsequent flee to a lighter division with a weaker champion…. lamesauce.

Soooo……….roids or not? How can you be sure what kind of fighter Cyborg looks like without roids? Has she ever shown even a modicum of technique or skill that didnt involve her overwhelming size and strength advantage?

Steroids aided her recovery time and training intensity...

You act like steroids are some kind of wonder drink that teaches you BJJ and Muay Thai in a couple swings with little to no training required lol

Tell me when Cyborg learns BJJ and MT

Cause all I see is wild hays and bad grappling.

She won gold at the mundials at purple

Not that this means much considering it was mostly throws and muscling through everything.

Nah it was all the steroids doing, They did it all, Cyborg just sat back and enjoyed the ride apparently lol
Yeah being busted for steroids doesn't at all sully your athletic accomplishments

Especially when you used strength over technique the entire time.

Obviously she was taking steriods since her handball days

So we’ll throw all that out the window as well without any need of evidence, Just heresay… Sounds great!

And of Cyborgs last 4 opponents...

The only one she was actually taller then was Finney… By a staggering 1 inch.

I think you guys judge her so harshly because she is ugly and Ronda is pretty…ish.

Plain and simple, I watch MMA for fighting, If i wanted to watch pretty girls id watch Victoria’s secret so i couldnt give a rats ass how fugly she is as long as she brings the pain, Which she most certainly does.

Ill reserve my judgement on this whole steroids issue till the CSAC hands down its judgement and we have all the facts.

"brings the pain"

Yeah because I was talking about handball from years gone by and not the 2011 IBJJF world championships or her tenure in Strikeforce

I think it’s high time you slap yourself

And you know she was on steroids the entire time because you have a magic crystal ball.

Please! You are guessing and assuming, You have no idea if anything you say about her supposed past steroid abuse is true and are flagrantly pulling things straight from your anus.

I used the handball reference to highlight how ridiculous you were being but you clearly missed the point so ill leave it at that lol

Feel free to commence the slapping on yourself. :)

Well she tested positive for stanozolol

She also has the physical characteristics of steroid use but let’s ignore those things in favor of being an argumentative baby with his head planted so far up his own keister he can watch his food digest.

There it is!!!

Vegas set the over/under on “number of replies in thread before desperate Cyborg defender invokes the ‘can you PROVE she was on roids??’ longshot defense” at 8.5

And yes, I assume she was on roids for every single fight. Neither of us can prove our position either way, but guess which looks more reasonable given events of the past month?

Is it the guy that’s assuming that every drug test she took except the one that backs up his position was wrong?

If he's unaware of how people cycle steroids... still no.

This is why this whole thing is BS to me. Every negative test is useless because people cycle, and every positive test is infallible and means someone has been cheating for their entire life (I guess they just forgot how to cycle this last time.)

No one know who is doing what, so speculating about it is pointless. She tested positive, she will serve her suspension and come back, trying to make any other grand proclamations is stupid because you can’t prove anything.

Hatred clouds you're judgement and undermines your arguments
lol

no.
RR is an Olympic Judoka, she’s gonna rip her fucking arm off.

Ridiculous. Zuffa should cut ties with her and shut down 145. The 115 and 135 women’s divisions are the only weights that are semi-viable.

As soon as Zuffa establishes a one and done policy on positive tests and uses it on everyone then you can cut Cyborg. But, that’s not how it will ever work and if you do cut Cris then you are treating her differently from everyone else in Zuffa for one reason. She’s a woman. Sorry. That doesn’t work.

A one and done policy?

That would be a shit show.

Of course. It would never, ever happen and shouldn’t be employed only on Cyborg.

Different circumstances

Cyborg is the only reason to keep around 145. Since she popped, they really have no reason to keep her.

She can drop to 135. And shes got some name value so itll help the division.

She has struggled to make 145

He was popped using an illegal substance to help her cut the weight. What makes you think she can drop down?

I absolutely think that Cyborg should be treated differently. What other division under Zuffa is in place for only one fighter? She was in a special position within the company and she blew it and is refusing to take responsibility for her actions.

That is total bullshit. There were others who could compete at 145 and Cyborg said she was ready to compete at 135 if necessary. No Zuffa champ has been cut after one failed, questioned test. There needs to be equality or it is all bullshit.

Im all for for WMMA in the viable weight classes. With Cyborg out of the picture for a long time and Rousey dropping, Id rather see them promoting a division with some actual talent outside of there champ like 115.

That’s why I want a WMMA division at 140. So many fights are possible at that weight and because of substantial biological differences 140 is an equitable weight class in WMMA. They should not be bound to men’s weight classes. Their make up is so different.

Not this 140 nonsense again

So basically we are all just living in Memitim’s perfect world, where Cyborg, a proven liar, SAYING she can make 135 equals her actually BEING able to make 135, or we all compete at 140 since one guy, Memetim, finds it more “equitable”. Seems we only need 140 to accomodate one fighter: the aforementioned proven liar.

Come down from your cross. Nothing is proven yet.

Yes it is. She failed a test. Game over.

So did Sherk and Bigfoot. Failing a test means nothing till the appeal process is complete.

I don't recall Bigfoot successfully appealing a suspension

I think he just fought outside of the US in the meantime, right?

There needs to be context or there is no reason.

Cyborg is out for a year and there are no compelling fights in the division at all. With or without Cyborg, the division is weak, untalented, and nobody cares.

And anyways, this is standard for Zuffa. Barnett won a title, was stripped for testing positive. Sylvia had the title and defended but tested positive and was stripped. They both had other people in the division, which womens 145 does not have, so who gives a shit about losing the fighters there?

145 does have two challengers. And they are the two biggest names in WMMA. Gina and Ronda. In no way should Cyborg be cut. Serve out her suspension, yes. Cut, hell no. I have stated before a need for making a 140 division. So many fights are available at that division.

Ronda is a natural 135er.

As for Gina, I refer you to my poorly formatted but content loaded Gina Carano List.

Lol
“I am ultimately responsible for everything I put in my body, and at the end of the day, there is no excuse for having a prohibited substance in my system. I do not condone the use of any performance enhancing drugs by myself or any other professional athlete, and willingly accept the penalties and fines that have been handed down to me by the California State Athletic Commission and those of the StrikeForce/Zuffa organization.”“While I was preparing myself for my last fight I was having a difficult time cutting weight and used a dietary supplement that I was assured was safe and not prohibited from use in sports competition. It was never my intention to obtain an unfair advantage over Hiroko, mislead StrikeForce, the Commission or my fans. I train harder than any fighter in MMA and do not need drugs to win in the cage, and I have proven this time and time again! My only mistake is not verifying the diet aid with my doctor beforehand, and understanding that it was not approved for use in the ring.” “Unfortunately in the end I suffer the consequences and must accept the responsibility for my actions.”“I will do everything I can to show my fans that I can still compete at the professional level without the use of any prohibited substances, and ask God’s forgiveness for my mistake.”

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Girl's playing the Game, now. She knows that the most she can aspire to is a reduced suspension.

Has California ever not reduced a suspension upon appeal?

Didn’t they just drag the Barnett thing out until he withdrew his appeal?

I remember that as Barnett dragging the Barnett thing out until we all stopped caring

not that I can recall

Sherk, Toney, Sonnen… all got it reduced. I’m sure there are probably instances, but none that I’m aware of

I thought Sherk’s suspension was maintained to a full year?

This tainted supplement B.S. wears me out. If you got some bad product give us the name, let your fellow fighters know what they need to watch out for.

that wouldnt solve anything

At least, I dont think. A lot of fighters get a nutrition company to sponsor them to get their supps on the cheap or free. You’ll see a lot of guys have MusclePharm on their shorts or even bigger name companies like BSN.

If a fighter claims he/she/heshe took a tainted supplement and then says ‘yeah I took Musclepharm ______, it was tainted’ thats basically calling out your sponsor who gives you money and supplements to make it easier to train and afford to be a fighter. Hurts the companies bottom line in the end and it burns bridges. Plus it tries to put blame on the company, not the fighter.

And in the end, the fighter is to blame

Fuck that company then.

They get you fined by the commission and suspended from competition so you can’t earn money then why stay loyal? In the most callous of terms, they hurt your bank account. They betrayed your trust and gave you things that are illegal, knowing full well what sport you participate in and what goes in to their products. Sell them down the river if they gave you a tainted supplement because that business is unethical and awful on every level.

Yep.

If a pro fighter every ACTUALLY got a tainted supplement they’d sue them. End of story. This is a business. She’s making exactly zero from any sponsors for the length of her suspension anyway.

I get that.

You miss the point. This is the same line baseball players use, yet no one can ever remember what it was exactly that was tainted. Do you honestly think a fighter out there would take a 1 year suspension to protect a sponsor? No chance. Do you honestly think there’s MusclePharm tainted with anabolic steroids? doubt it.

If this wasn’t complete, total bullshit she would have sued somebody already. She’s not protecting a sponsor, she’s full of shit.

The problem with this is most of the supplements that are “tainted” usually say “will make you test positive for x” on the label.

no I get it

Im just saying, if they call out the company thats what would happen. She popped for roids and is blaming a supplement.

Passing the buck.

not true

though nothing like artificial steroids was involved, jack3d and products like it have been a major problem for tested athletes. Last year there were quite a few cases where people took it despite checking the WADA lists – WADA lists it as 1,3dimethylamylamine (IIRC), but many supplements list it as a geranamine, Methylhexanamine, or the innocuous sounding “geranium extract” – like somthing granny might have with her herbal tea. Yes, ultimate responsibility lies with the athlete – but the labelling is very confusing.

Beyond people just not knowing what they were taking, there were genuine cases of contamination – I think it was South African rugby players – many supps for different companies are all made in the same factories, and QC can be low, so products can be cross-contaminated. Fortunately for the rugby players, they had paid extra to have the company certify the products only contained certain stuff, and they had leftovers and unopened tubs that they could submit for testing and prove contamination.

I can’t think of any supplement companies selling stanozolol though.

That’s what the hearing is for.

You bet. I'm sure she'll remember what supplement it was by then.

Or not.

If not then she has no shot of getting the suspension reduced, which is what this is all about.

I don't remember any roid user that claims bad supplements naming a brand.

But the point of this is without a doubt getting the suspension reduced.

I’m sure if you look at the transcripts of these different hearings some of the caught users stated what they took and why. Chael had some quack doctor show up and give an explanation that got his sentenced reduced. It’s only recently that we have begun to watch these hearings real time. If Cris shows up to her hearing and doesn’t disclose what she took she will lose her appeal. And, now, we will all be watching with multiple MMA reporters tweeting as it happens. This is a new era of accountability, tho much more is needed.

There have been a few

JC Romero successfully proved that he actually had tainted supplements in court. His story is a little more legit though and he still got suspended.

Kevin Williams and Will Smith also named names.

She can always just show up and swear at them.

Yup, anything but a full confession will probably end up with 6 months.

Wheres chael when u need h a m b e e f r o a s t

Somewhere taking steroids.
And committing fraud but hey he can talk smack well so that makes him cool..

/insert thick sarcasm

Defrauding an insurance company to get the owners a nice discount on their downpayment.

Chael is a fucking modern day Robin Hood.

That cheats and commits fraud then lies about to get his ass off the line...

What version of Robin Hood were you watching? lol

He's off somewhere chaeling.
put her in with aldo!

That would be one heck of a fight!

Then Dominick Cruz! Then Urijah Faber!

At the same time!

yeah it would I believe she'd KO them in round one

She’s just insanely scarey roided or not lol I wouldn’t wish anyone in the same cage with her lol

Okay now I'm getting the feeling you're actually being serious
Then BROCKLESNAR!!!!!
too soon

it still hurts….

No Way Jose

I doubt she will make any headway without producing, from a shelf, whatever she allegedly took
CSAC is way too sharp to just play word games
What makes her case exactly like barnett & Silvia is that she was a champion
not some preliminary fighter
The Champs should absolutley be held to higher standards or at least the same standard as everyone else

I'm joking lol

But seriously think she’d give em a good fight… She’s scarey as hell lol

Cyborg doesn’t have very much technique, but is physically more powerful than a lot of her opponents. The problem is that when she stops having that advantage, she’ll lose to someone with more skill.

They should double the suspension when they appeal for no good reason.

$5 says she turns in a vial of stanozolol with a kool aid label taped onto it

“See? They tricked me!”

what kind of kool-aid is the real question
Red
What is Red?

There is tropical punch but there is no red

Red is red
I just don't know what you're talking about.
he couldnt afford kool aid...he got his sugar water from the gas station so..yes..Red
In all seriousness....

…I wonder what percentage of pro fighters have taken roids, TRT, GH etc. Listening to fighters who speak on the subject, that percentage has to be very high. These fighters put their bodies through a lot of punishment and I have to believe Cris isn’t in the minority.

Id say anywhere from 50-75% of the current roster...

Which is truly a pity for the 25% that fight fair and clean.

I always assume like 80%. I’ve never heard anything in candid comments from fighters to make me think any different.

75-80% is kind of what I had in my mind too
leave Cyborg alone

he seems like a nice fella

LMAO...

…well played.

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