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UFC Can't Host Event In Melbourne Due To Octagon

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The UFC's plans to take the show back to Australia for an event in Melbourne look like they've come to an end. It appears that in the state of Victoria, it's illegal to hold MMA events in a cage rather than a ring.

Via the Sydney Morning Herald:

And while the UFC would like nothing better than to book a date for a Melbourne event, it is unable to while the government refuses to allow MMA bouts to be held in cages.

In the UFC, bouts are held inside the "Octagon" - an eight-side cage. In Victoria, MMA bouts can be sanctioned if held in a boxing ring, but are not allowed to take place in a cage.

Speaking in Melbourne yesterday during a promotional tour for the Sydney event, the UFC's Managing Director of International Development Marshall Zelaznik questioned whether the Victorian Government was more concerned about negative perceptions surrounding "cage fighting" than it was about the safety of the fighters themselves.

"The government has authorised that mixed martial arts can take place [in a ring] - the issue seems to be the Octagon," Mr Zelaznik said.

"The ropes [of a boxing ring] don't protect the fighters enough ... what you always have happen is a fighter will slip through the ropes - hopefully they don't fall - but we have video that we've submitted to the government about how unsafe it is when fighters are actually falling through these ropes and are hurting themselves.

This is clearly all about image as there isn't exactly any data that would suggest a ring is safer than a cage, quite the opposite actually. But there are still plenty of people in the world who look at two men fighting inside of a cage and can't help but think of it as far more barbaric than men in a ring.

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And I thought British politicians were idiots...
Wasn't this the same issue last year or the year before?

yes, this gets discussed every year.

Yep, this reminds me of the BS fiasco that happened when the English kids were grappling in a cage.

Such low cage IQ…

Hopefully they'll look to the Sydney event as an example and change their minds.
I wish I knew what really goes through some people's minds...

When they decide they don’t like something, they outlaw it so nobody else is allowed to do it. They say they’re protecting public safety but you know that they’re just protecting their own cowardly sensibilities.

just make a octagon ring

and rejoice in aussieland

And make it as tall as the Octogon by using 7 Ropes.
how absurd

“We don’t care about men trying to do grievous bodily harm to each other. Oh, no! That’s okay. But in a cage? That’s just barbaric.

You've got to remember

that the politicians and bureaucrats who make these rules are often doing so based on extremely limited information. Hopefully the UFC can get in there, do a little education, and get things settled. But without thoughtful informed advocates of MMA engaged in the process, it’s hard to blame the pencil pusher who checks “no” on the box that says cage fighting.

It's pretty easy to blame them if they do absolutely no research though

Not that I expect much from any elected official anywhere these days.

isn't that called

being ignorant?

Sure, I guess

But its hard to expect even good policymakers, who do their research, to be experts on every topic. And if the only voice they hear is one offering the imminently reasonable (at least on its face) position that two men fighting in a cage shouldn’t be sanctioned by the state, I can see how this kind of policy gets made by reasonable people. I’m work on these sorts of issues, and the sad truth is that if you don’t advocate for your position (especially if your position is not immediately understandable) you don’t get the policy outcomes you want.

Fixed
But its hard to expect even good policymakers
ring > cage

YAMMA Pit >>>>> cage > ring

hell in a cell > ring > cage > samuel L. jackson
Pit fighting?

Count me in!

Triple cage > Everything

The ultimate proving ground

Boo.

That sucks.

Pity

Issue is that it’d most likely only be a FN/Fuel sort of a card, rather than something that’s going to provide that great a draw.

Look at the Sydney-event this year, for instance. The Flyweight tournament opening round was never going to get that many live viewers.

ummm Bring MMA to NY then I'll give a shit about this.
Calm down

There are more states in the USA than in Australia, and most of the states in the USA regulate MMA. Going from Victoria to Sydney is also more of a trek than New York to New Jersey. Melbourne to Sydney as a solid drive with only stops for refueling is about 12 hours straight in my experience.

^^ Melbourne to Sydney that should read.

And Melbourne’s pretty much a better/equal MMA market with Sydney in terms of local-audiences, if the AFCs are any indication. Just allowing cages would mean great benefits for the AFC and other organizations within Australia.

Oh fuk yeh MURICA!
This is just silly.
What do you expect from a colony of criminals?
Australia: Can't by M rated games or fight in a cage

You can fight in a cage for an M-rated game, though.

The only reason Cage-fighting is banned is in order to help prohibit the age old Australian game of Knifey-Spoony.

So whoever gets the spoon is screwed.
Did it go over your head?

Have you ever played Knifey-Spoony before?

I'd be disqualified right???
It's NOT a CAGE!

It’s a FENCED AREA!

Have them fight in the Octofence!!!
it really is a kind of brilliant marketing insight that occasionally (like here) backfires.

“Ooh, CAGE! sounds badass!”
“Eek, CAGE! Sounds barbaric!”

Bring on UFC Brisbane!!!
Yay

For purely selfish reasons, I’m kind of glad those Mexican politicians are so dumb. Living in Canberra, I’d much prefer the 3 hour drive to Sydney to see the UFC than the 8 hours to Melbourne.

I’m in the same boat, the 3 hour drive to Sydney is way better than the 8 hour drive to Melbourne. Not to mention the thousand speed cameras on the way that clock you for doing 1km/h over.

That said, I would still love to hit Melbourne for a big UFC though. It really is the sporting capital of the world and is a much better city than Sydney.

Canberra LOL.

but seriously, Melbourne need to get their shit sorted. It’s a fantastic city to visit and they know how to put on a show.

HA

I see what you did there……shots fired at Canberra LOL.

Well Melbourne would be less of a drive for me so bring on Melbourne. It’s a 3 hour Melbourne drive VS a 6 hour Sydney drive

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