Jordan Burroughs with a title that could bode well for his future 'elsewhere'. Photo by Tony Rotundo at WrestlersAreWarrios.com
When you look at some of the world's best prospects in MMA, you'll inevitably find yourself exploring the world of college wrestling. How intimate is the relationship between mixed martial arts, and wrestling? What does that relationship mean for the future of both sports?
The management company of Team Takedown is a good example of what this revolution has meant for both sports. Although you could say they've been a mixed bag. Jake Rosholt left the UFC with a 2-2 record and is currently undefeated in his last 6 fights. Shane Roller is on a two-fight losing streak. Jared Rosholt is a HW prospect currently 4-0. And then there's Johny Hendricks who needs no introduction for the viewers of UFC 141 (or people that were never fans of Jon Fitch).
Hendricks took part in the NWCA All-Star Classic, and as Sherdog's Tommy Messano reports, the event has been a hot bed for MMA talent scouts. But what makes Messano's piece stand out is that we get to see two different reactions to this merging of interests between both sports.
On the one hand, you have a DIII two-time national champion from Wartburg College in Byron Tate, who is already training MMA. In Tate, we see how in MMA, wrestlers now have an outlet to make proper money. On the other hand, the silence of Oklahoma State's Jordan Oliver:
Oliver is a transcendent talent, but one who has thus far shown little interested in a future MMA career. When approached by Sherdog.com on Sunday, Oliver declined to be interviewed and offered a simple "no comment," further confirming that his goal lies in acquiring multiple NCAA titles before becoming a key cog in Team USA’s Olympic medal hopes.
Oklahoma State assistant coach Zack Esposito put in perspective his team’s current view towards MMA.
"To tell you the truth, the guys on our team are Olympic-made and coaching-made," Esposito said. "Right now, it’s not likely [for them to transition to MMA]. We are pushing our Olympic hopes and we want them to reach that goal before they make that choice whether they want to go on or not.
"We encourage our guys, ‘don’t forget your childhood dreams.’ This thing [MMA] is new and appealing, but don’t forget your dreams. And then, after that, don’t forget your decision."
Oliver's silence, in its own way, speaks to what some consider a burden onto wrestling and the lack of reciprocity between the two sports. For an articulation of this position by the participants themselves, Luke Thomas at MMA Nation interviewed Jordan Burroughs (winner of the Dan Hodge Trophy), and Henry Cejudo (Olympic Gold Medalist).

Cejudo gave a very nuanced answer when asked whether or not MMA is hurting or helping wrestling:
Henry: Well, this is a difficult one. I would say it's probably hurting, to be quite honest with you. A lot of our best guys are going into mixed martial arts. At the same time, it's sort of pushing the sport of wrestling to increase their stipends, their winnings. So, yeah, it is a bummer because the sport is losing good guys like Daniel Cormier, Mo Lawal, Ben Askren, they almost lost me for a bit. It's happening because guys are seeing MMA, I hate to say it, but it's an easier sport than wrestling. Wrestling is a sport, just like boxing, it's been around for hundreds of years. It's easy. It's flashy. Cameras, you become famous. You become rich. And you have the best base which is wrestling. 75% I think of all fighters are wrestlers or former wrestlers.
Burroughs gives a similar answer, though both seem interested in eventually venturing into the MMA world. Perhaps just as interestingly, Burroughs answers the question: 'why do some wrestlers falter at their own game against MMA fighters with very little experience?' If there's a reason to think not every wrestler can make the transition, consider their styles, Jordan argues. For some of us who know very little of wrestling itself, we often just assume that all great wrestlers can power out a double leg like nobody's business. This is obviously not the case (in response to Luke's question about Yoel Romero during a Strikeforce fight that saw an Olympic medalist struggle to find takedowns):
Jordan: I'm not sure. I mean, other people excel at different positions. Maybe that wasn't a strong point, sticking on his feet. Maybe just because he was an Olympic medalist doesn't mean he's great on his feet. He might keep good positioning and be hard to score but wasn't very offensive. It's one of those things, we've got guys that are very offensive and can take down anyone and we've got guys that don't shoot at all but are very hard to take down. It's one of those things, you've got to decide what you're good at.
I didn't like putting both writers in one entry, but they explore such similar themes, I couldn't avoid it. Both put up fantastic work, and I suggest you read each in full.
Again, Tommy Messano's article can be read in full here. He can be reached on twitter @ULTMMA.
Luke Thomas' interviews with Jordan Burroughs and Henry Cejudo can be found, here and here, respectively. You can reach him on twitter @SBNLukeThomas.
4 recs | 14 comments
Thanks for including these interviews, Dave. It was a real thrill to talk to both athletes.
Luke Thomas - January 2, 2012
I know
you have a certain amount of ‘disdain’ for interviews, but you’re keeping them alive with stuff like this.
David Castillo - January 2, 2012
Thanks Dave
I think the two sports are farther apart than they each realize. “I scratch your back, you scratch mine” deals are being missed that could help out each community in the future.
ultmma - January 2, 2012
Lots of Oklahoma State connections
Cormier, Hendricks, Rosholts, Lawal, Rohler, all OSU guys along with Oliver.
Okie State Coach John Smith’s highest goal is the creation of Olympic champs. I think that having Hendricks jump to fighting really stung as he was a freestyle stand-out in high school and really had a shot on the international level.
He’s leaving nothing to chance with Oliver, who is looking like his next best shot at producing an Olympic champ. John Smith is the most decorated American Wrestler ever and one of its most decorated coaches, but one feather in his cap is he has never produced an Olympic or World champ as head coach out of OSU
Now that he has what looks like his best chance in a while, he ain’t going to let something like MMA get in his way.
Mike Riordan - January 2, 2012
What specifiacally made Hendricks so good? We know Burroughs has a great double leg and others like Cormier were extremely hard to score on. But why was Hendricks so touted?
Ben Thapa - January 2, 2012
He was just tough all around
That’s all I can say. He didn’t have a signature move, he could just do everything very well. He was up tempo and physical and wrestled what looked more like an Iowa style than an OSU style. He was absolutely dominant in HS, and against the top guys in College he almost always did what it took to win.
Mike Riordan - January 2, 2012
*missing feather in his cap
Mike Riordan - January 2, 2012
I hate the Olympics
They’re corrupt as fuck as all about nationalism. I wish they’d continue losing their luster so these wrestlers would transition to MMA more often.
IKiIIed007 - January 2, 2012
Great article Dave....
….Borroughs will be a beast in MMA….also, one typo – it’s the “NWCA All-Star Classic”….
BrothersGottaAndyHug - January 2, 2012
O M G. This site is so biased towards it’s ex writers!
Please don’t ban me.
Hendo_One-Shot - January 2, 2012
so we're not supposed to feature our guys' best work?
get real. most of our competitors wouldn’t feature any outside writers’ stuff.
Kid Nate - January 2, 2012
Sarcastic
Hendo_One-Shot - January 2, 2012
lol
sorry. hey, I almost banned you!
Kid Nate - January 2, 2012
I have to assume
(I hope) that the italics were meant to emphasize his sarcasm. But yes, for future reference, BE work will be featured over the course of this series. To whoever these critics are, you can either accept that, or can you can act clueless and make what I have to say are honestly stupid claims about whether or not this series is glorified advertising despite the fact that the majority of the work featured so far has come from outside. Or you know…you can actually read the features themselves and decide for yourself if they fall under the canopy of “best mma writing of 2011”. If you disagree, let that be your ‘comment’.
David Castillo - January 2, 2012
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