Former Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal, who failed a post-fight drug test after beating Lorenz Larkin at Strikeforce: Rockhold vs. Jardine, was a guest on today's MMA Hour and told Ariel Helwani that he had taken an over-the-counter supplement.
The Nevada State Athletic Commission announced on January 17th that Lawal tested positive for Drostanolone after the Larkin bout. Lawal faces a suspension of up to one year and a fine.
Lawal told Helwani he purchased a supplment called S-Mass "Lean Gainer" at Muscle Max. Ben Fowlkes has more at MMA Fighting:
The guilty party, according to Kogan and Lawal, is a supplement called S-Mass Lean Gainer by Rock Solid, which Lawal said he bought at a Max Muscle store in California and used only sporadically for "rehab stuff," the fighter explained. It was recommended to him by a Max Muscle employee some time in April of 2010, he said, though it's since been removed from the market, according to Kogan, who admitted he had no knowledge that Lawal was taking any supplements at all prior to his positive drug screening.
"To the best of my research, this product was taken off the shelves some time in mid-2011, for exactly the same reason that we're facing right now. Its primary and only relevant ingredient of that particular product is a substance known as Methyldrostanolone, which is basically just a pill format of Drostanolone," Kogan said.
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"For me, the best way to get an advantage over your opponent is through hard work, preparation, and your skills," Lawal said. "That's the best way to get an advantage over anybody. Game-planning. That's the best way to beat your opponent."
Here's the description of that product:
S-Mass is the most powerful designer anabolic ever created and is probably the least expensive on the market. S-Mass represents a quality designer anabolic and an affordable price. S-Mass was designed to produce lean hard bodies. If you want t he lean hard look S-Mass is the product for you.
Lawal's manager Mike Kogan Tweeted after the show:
@Mike Kogan: not blaming just pointing out their lack of responsibility, accountability and malicious and intentional misguidence of consumers
@Mike Kogan: just pointing out the uphill battle that any athlete faces. They rename, relabel and hide shit on purpose to turn $ someone needs to start paying attention to it
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This line again? Jeez.
Don’t.
take.
over.
the.
counter.
products.
without.
testing.
them.
first.
Cory Braiterman - January 23, 2012
Do you read, research and test every ingredient in your coffee?
5 Hour Energy? Pepto? Aspirin?
No you are not a pro athlete, but lets be realistic. A lot of times people ask “is this safe?” and if the answer is yes, you move on. Or if you are a pro athlete, and the substance “Drostanolone” is banned, you may not think to cross check it against “Methyldrostanolone”
Just sayin…not that easy
warren305 - January 23, 2012
wonderfulspam - January 23, 2012
yeah, I just re-read that myself
fail
warren305 - January 23, 2012
anabolics 101
The term ‘methyl androst’ describes the process of convert a steroid to be orally active in the body.
the more you know!
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Cory Braiterman
is not a MMA fighter though.
killphil - January 23, 2012
And MMA fighter's are not chemist
warren305 - January 23, 2012
What kind of logic is that?
killphil - January 23, 2012
Sometimes they don't know shit.
warren305 - January 23, 2012
So King Mo, one of the most eloquent fighters in MMA, was too stupid to read that description that says “anabolic” and not think twice?
Right.
Kaleb Kelchner - January 23, 2012
We still on the "anabolic" thing?
Thats just marketing dude. Protein powders have the word “anabolic” on them. That means nothing.
warren305 - January 23, 2012
Google search “anabolic” and on the first page there are 24 instances of the word “steroids”.
There’s only 10 entries on the first page.
Just marketing, means nothing. That’s probably the kind of logic that he or whoever suggested it used as well.
Kaleb Kelchner - January 23, 2012
The words
‘designer anabolic’ refer specifically to steroids.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Come on man, that's ridiculous.
You don’t need a chemical analysis.
killphil - January 23, 2012
Hey man, look I'm not trying to defend king mo
I barely know who he is, and don’t care. I’m just saying its easy to accidentally take a banned substance. That is a fact.
warren305 - January 23, 2012
It’s also easy not to.
Bolshevik - January 24, 2012
You don’t need to be a chemist to goole the ingredients. If you still fail, well then you can go to the athletic commission with the product.
killphil - January 23, 2012
Sorry are you suggesting:
I take the supplement back to my team of scientists at my home laboratory for analysis?
Or do i test it on myself or perhaps my cat ?…which, of course would first require me to buy from “over the counter”
MostDiabolicalCasanova - January 23, 2012
Your cat should work fine.
I test all my microwaves with it.
killphil - January 23, 2012
They bottle Jacked 3D...from my cat
He doesnt need any sups really
MostDiabolicalCasanova - January 23, 2012
if you are a professional fighter
you spend the money to send it to a lab to make sure you don’t pop clean. Professional athletes do it all the time. Welcome to the 21st century.
Cory Braiterman - January 23, 2012
pop dirty that is
Cory Braiterman - January 23, 2012
....
MostDiabolicalCasanova - January 23, 2012
that gif would be better with words
Cory Braiterman - January 24, 2012
Hes not a chemist
Its not the fighters job to check that stuff… his job is to fight and train. This company should be sued and the government should probably step in. The company and the chain stores are at fault, and they are intentionally trying to screw people over.
Jason Robillard - January 23, 2012
yes, it is his job
part of his job is to not ingest illegal substances. this means you send whatever strange substance you want to ingest to a lab to make sure it doesn’t SHIT ALL OVER YOUR CAREER FOR THE NEXT YEAR
Cory Braiterman - January 23, 2012
You would think " the most powerful designer anabolic" might set off some warning bells for someone who has to piss clean..
Snake_Pliskan - January 23, 2012
was just about to post this
“sorry! i didn’t know this product that claimed to be the most powerful steroid on the market contained steroids.”
Clifford J - January 23, 2012
Just cause it has anabolic in the name doesn't mean anything
HitokiriX - January 23, 2012
No…..but designer anabolic is a little shadier…..and a tiny bot of research would have helped him understand that this Lean Gainer product was taken off the market due to the fact that it acts as anabolic steroid …..and can have unwanted liver effects.
Snake_Pliskan - January 23, 2012
Which is why he's not going to appeal
cause he realizes he fucked up
HitokiriX - January 23, 2012
No joke
Even a natural test booster which you can get over the counter would probably give an abnormally high test result. Unless these pricks are making false claims just to sell products that don’t really do anything.
boscomma - January 23, 2012
Not enough for them to test positive
The allowable test limit is 4 times higher than average.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Oh no shit I had no clue....
How do they determine what is “normal”? serious question
boscomma - January 23, 2012
I'm not sure how the find the average range
But its between 300-1000(forgot the units). So you can see how TRT and things like that could be tricky.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
The original test isn't even for actual testosterone levels
But for the testosterone to epitestosterone ratio. “Normally” it’s 1:1, but they give you 4:1.
joker24 - January 23, 2012
2 questions Filt
What a good strong natty test booster, with no off cycle side effects. And is there anything nat’l for growth hormone?
Not for me…. for a friend….Chael’s a cheater
warren305 - January 23, 2012
Wouldn't know
I don’t thin they exist really.
Just take the real stuff or go home. :P
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
No way man that cheating
warren305 - January 23, 2012
It is reasonable to assume that because a supplement is legal you should not test positive for banned substances. Doesn’t work out that way, but it is reasonable.
press700 - January 23, 2012
In this day and age, hell no.
“Tainted” supplements have been coming up as the cause for failed drug tests for an absolute age. It’s been said over and over again, don’t just buy shit off the shelf and assume it’s okay.
ihateemo - January 23, 2012
It wasnt sold as a steroid at all
Ariel was making it seam like Mo knew all of the stuff. Ariel looked that up on the internet after it was found out to be steroids. The bottle doesnt say the most powerful designer anabolic on it.
Jason Robillard - January 23, 2012
Why didn't you say so earlier King Mo?
Now that you’ve explained it, all is forgiven.
Kid Kimura - January 23, 2012
Because it took a while
To find a supplement they could realistically blame.
BKdroid - January 23, 2012
That's pretty cut and dry
It clearly labels itself as an anabolic…
4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-a-andro4-ene3, 17b-diol 25mg*
2a-17a-Dimethyl-5aandrost-3-one
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
I wonder if they just scoured the net for something that looks like a dirty supplement and said…..“see, here’s what I took….anyone on the street can buy this”.
Snake_Pliskan - January 23, 2012
This can’t be good for his AC hearing.
The Lethal Haze - January 23, 2012
hmm…..did he not do his necessary research? Me thinks not.
Snake_Pliskan - January 23, 2012
“Anabolic” in the product description? Seems legit.
Kaleb Kelchner - January 23, 2012
but "Steroid" isn't
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
i posted this below too but it's relevant here as well
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
Uh ok?
why?
nickrodamous - January 23, 2012
That says 'nutrabolic'
It’s a witty name…it’s not straight up saying ‘anabolic’
Chris Groves - January 23, 2012
MicahtheCynic - January 23, 2012
Hey, at least Mo is coming forward and disclosing the supplement that he believes caused the positive test.
Give the dude some credit.
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
Are you really that easily deceived?
It’s obvious he (or those around him) did some research to try and find a product that they could lay the blame on.
You are giving the dude too much credit.
nicey - January 23, 2012
No I'm just trying to give Mo the benefit of the doubt
This is a guy who has competed in college wrestling at the highest level for years and the NCAA does very tough testing so there’s no way he could have been on anything. I just don’t think someone with that kind of background would be intentionally juicing to get an edge.
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
Really
The NCAA does a good job? why are players that are always clean then popped in the pros? Who also don’t try that hard to catch them.
troyd - January 23, 2012
are we talking about wrestling here?
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
He did wrestle internationally
for a very long time. They are actually strict there.
Andy Anderson - January 23, 2012
That's why I find this whole story weird.
Not because I think he didn’t juice, because he’s the exact type of guy that I expect to know how to juice and not get popped.
Sweet Scientist - January 23, 2012
I tend to agree
The cases with both King Mo and Cyborg both seem fishy, if they were really over the counter products.
Andy Anderson - January 23, 2012
Olympic wrestlers do juice and have been caught juicing before
having said that, I am surprised that an MMA athletic comission caught something that FILA testing wouldn’t have. Probably wasn’t as familiar with the ‘designer’ stuff and how to take them.
DrFernando - January 24, 2012
what bugs the shit out of me here on BE
are the immediate knee-jerk “I don’t believe anything that gets said from this point on the guy is a cheater and I have made my mind up” stances held by too many people on here. I understand taking that kind of stance if someone pops 3 times or something, but isn’t it possible that this actually happened and he took this supplement not knowing that it was illegal? I say give him the benefit of the doubt in this first offense. He should definitely be suspended still, but everybody deserves a second chance IMO.
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
word
The court of public opinion is fickle and unforgiving
thelastsultan - January 23, 2012
That’s just how most people react to positive steroid test results.
Machiel Van - January 23, 2012
Casey Anthony was innocent, I’m guessing?
MicahtheCynic - January 23, 2012
Bc those are related and that analogy works, right?
warren305 - January 23, 2012
Why should you give the benefit of the doubt to someone who is just lying out of their ass?
MicahtheCynic - January 23, 2012
Why respond to someone who has clearly made their mind up already? dunno, just did tho.
rohedron - January 23, 2012
Because you dont know anything for certain....
And appear to be the only one who is 100% talking out of their ass here… I hope you never get jury duty smh
Chin Check - January 23, 2012
Not sure if it’s an internet rule, but if you put “smh” in a forum post, you’re a tool.
MicahtheCynic - January 23, 2012
To soon.
TheLastEmpress - January 23, 2012
I'd be more sympathetic if it didn't appear like he was doing everything possible to deflect responsibility onto other people
Here’s what I’ve seen:
1. Test comes back positive.
2. Mo originally claims it’s from a non-anabolic steroid injection
3. Mo now claims it’s from an OTC supplement that was pulled off the shelf 6 months ago.
Either he’s surprisingly ignorant of the stuff he’s putting in his body, he’s scrambling for a scapegoat now that he’s been caught, or a combination of the two.
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 23, 2012
Or he didnt know whyt he was popped, and just found out
Like he said
warren305 - January 23, 2012
Hey, if Troy from Mass Muscle says the stuff is legit, who am I to doubt him?
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 23, 2012
Shit happens, lots of guys don't expect to be popped for stuff they can buy legally over the counter
warren305 - January 23, 2012
Seriously...
Even the basic description on the label screams “fishy”, forget taking this shit to your chemist.
DrFernando - January 24, 2012
Was it the non anabolic injection or the OTC supplement?
Idk, seems fishy.
discoandherpes - January 23, 2012
If I fail a drug test at work
I will get suspended, no matter how many times I tell them I have glaucoma, I was at a party and someone else was doing it, I thought it was magical herbal tea leaves….
sklart - January 23, 2012
Am I late to the stoning?
tigerlee - January 23, 2012
Wont you get popped for that at work?
dedstrk316 - January 23, 2012
gotta love those horrible beards…
Victor Rodriguez - January 23, 2012
Indeed, It’s just one of the many reasons I’m merely a ghost here lately.
spectaa - January 23, 2012
Well said Rob Young...
I tried to argue the same point when Cyborg got popped but everyone was so committed to that bandwagon that only a 50 tonne slab of titanium was going to derail that bandwagon.
Chin Check - January 23, 2012
Agreed Rob. But fuck possible legit reasons, lets hang the guy out to dry, especially after he had the gall to claim that some MMA fans are full of shit. Lets burn that fucker at the stake!
sheikybaby - January 23, 2012
Not enough info to know if he is lying
you mentioned the worst case senario. the reason i think he’s probably telling the truth is because even taking mo at his word doesn’t really absolve him of anything. Even if you believe him he didn’t show any due diligence before consuming this product.
Hardy's in your face - January 23, 2012
Mo did all the right things
After his failed drug test, he did exactly what everyone wanted him to do: list the products he was taking. Obviously it’s plain stupid to not know what you’re taking, especially when it labels itself as an anabolic, but he handled the aftermath perfectly. His punishment should be lessened for being so willing to cooperate with the NSAC and get to the root of the problem.
bcpjkell - January 23, 2012
So anyone who tests positive
Just has to claim they were taking a supplement and their punishment should be lessened?
MichaelDavidSmith - January 23, 2012
In Mo's case he's lucky.
The product he’s claiming to have used is off market now because of this very reason. Other’s aren’t as fortunate. Though it’s Vegas so I expect Kiser to not ask for any proof of purchase and just take him for his word.
Matthew Roth - January 23, 2012
This is the really interesting part
Is this true, is it possible he found one that was pulled from the shelf and named it, or that he just got caught using one that was pulled?
troyd - January 23, 2012
I’m blindly taking Mo’s word on this one, but a proof of purchase should be mandatory
bcpjkell - January 23, 2012
No, they should have to disclose said supplement like Mo did
Cyborg hasn’t done this.
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
Yes, because it helps both the athletic commissions, media reporters, and other fighters to stop this type of accidents from happening.
bcpjkell - January 23, 2012
And considering how few athletes actually do this, they should reward the ones who actually do.
bcpjkell - January 23, 2012
I’m sorry, no. All of what you said is true, but that doesn’t stop the fact that Mo took a banned substance. We don’t know all the details because we don’t have the whole label (or at least I haven’t seen it yet) but when the description says “does everything a steroid does” you are stupid if you take it.
Phildo - January 23, 2012
True,…..if this is legit and what he took….than it is good for him to shine a light on the faulty supplement. I just question the mans smarts…..and he comes off as a pretty smart guy…….that he would actually ingest this stuff with the description it carries at the website. It pretty much screams " YOU WILL PISS HOTTER THAN A JAPANESE REACTOR IF YOU TAKE ME".
Snake_Pliskan - January 23, 2012
Mo did NOT do all the right things
If he was doing the right thing, he wouldn’t be taking steroids.
nicey - January 23, 2012
The over-the-counter-argument is complete BS, if your some normal fitness guy that doesnt compete, sure....if youre a pro....srsly
CVD - January 23, 2012
At least he is naming the product
With other that use this excuse they dont seem to have the ability to be specific which makes it seem like pure BS. Now I guess the real issue is does this stuff provide the result that was shown in his test.
MadNachos - January 23, 2012
its pretty dam easy to do a search to find a product days after that best suits your story
Shocbomb - January 23, 2012
Thank you.
For everyone who is “relieved and proud” of Mo for making this claim? I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.
nicey - January 23, 2012
u
own a bridge…? whoa shit… who sold you that one?
rohedron - January 23, 2012
It sure was not MO or Kogan
Shocbomb - January 23, 2012
I am not saying its a valid excuse, I am just saying that everyone else is too lame to even name the supplement that they claim caused their failed test. The interesting question here though is does the supplement provide cause a failed test like they claim…easy enough to find out. If they go no further with this I think we all know its just a weak excuse, but if they prove that it does provide the exact result that Mo had at least it shows its slightly less malicious than it looks. He still broke the rules either way, he gets no sympathy from me, but I am just tired of people claiming a supplement was to blame but they cant even provide a sample.
MadNachos - January 23, 2012
I don’t believe any of it.
Shocbomb - January 23, 2012
It makes me lol to see this reaction
The uninformed, average consumer equates “anabolic” with “steroid” and “illegal”, when it simply means it is a product that is meant to help build muscle. News flash, chicken is anabolic. So is Muscle Milk. For an athlete, any nutritional supplement they take should be anabolic. This doesn’t mean that it is an illegal steroid. If athletes were to avoid any supplement that is anabolic, they would be stuck eating crackers and Campbells soup.
CaliforniaCreamPuff - January 23, 2012
Why should every supplement be anabolic?
there’s more to supplements/nutrition than just ‘being in an anabolic state’.
CVD - January 23, 2012
Fair enough.
There are supplements that are meant to speed up recovery from workouts/training. However these could also be regarded as anabolic, in the sense that better recovery=more training. More training means more potential for building muscle. Regardless, the point I’m making is that just because something is advertised as anabolic, doesn’t mean that it’s illegal or a steroid.
CaliforniaCreamPuff - January 23, 2012
Cause fuck context, right?
S-Mass is the most powerful designer anabolic ever createdTheFilt - January 23, 2012
one more try...
What does that mean to you?
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
It has a lot of chicken in it?
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 23, 2012
Nice
Or designer chicken, like KFC.
but seriously, google the words “designer anabolic”.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Honest to God: I tried googling just "designer anabolic" and google refused to stop putting steroid at the end.
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 23, 2012
Lol
Did you mean juice?
Exactly, the word is short hand now for a designer steroid. There is no other meaning. Period.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Designer chickens are beautiful and must be delicious
dancingChicken - January 24, 2012
But can they dance?
menckenstein - January 24, 2012
I don't know
Maybe if a fighter sees the word anabolic on his supplement he should look into it.
halitosis - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Dude, if you are a professional MMA athlete, the words "anabolic" in what you are putting in your body
Should in fact equate “steroids” and “illegal” until proven otherwise.
DrFernando - January 24, 2012
Is it me, or does Mo's alibi leave him in an even worse position?
I mean, it is right there in the product. The most he can claim is that he was acting just severely, severely, severely incompetent.
Unabomberman - January 23, 2012
To be fair, almost every muscle building supplement lists “anabolic” hyperbole all over their bottles. The thing is, some of them actually have those ingredients…
nastyem - January 23, 2012
Well he should know what he's taking but at least he's naming the supplement that's more that you can say about most others that used this excuse before as far as I know.
Still his fault though.
Sweet Scientist - January 23, 2012
Just because they are blaming this supplement
Doesn’t mean he ever even took the supplement. It means they found something that they can lay blame on.
nicey - January 23, 2012
I'm not necessarily buying that he took that particular supplement or didn't juice.
Just pointing out that to my knowledge he’s the first one to use the supplement excuse and actually name a product.
Sweet Scientist - January 23, 2012
Its like saying the reason I poped dirty on the drug test for opiods is becasue I had eaten and poppy seed bagel 2 weeks ago.
Shocbomb - January 23, 2012
and > a
Shocbomb - January 23, 2012
ANABOLIC
In the name doesn’t mean anything. A lot of supplements have “anabolic” in their name while claiming this legal supplement has almoust as great results as anabolic steroids. I’m completely on Mo’s side, he can’t be that lucky and find legal/past legal products that causes the results he got.
OzzDee - January 23, 2012
THANK YOU
a lot of people are just seeing anabolic and making off the wall statements
HitokiriX - January 23, 2012
If you know what it is
and have any knowledge of supplements, steroids or prohormones its obvious.
Seeing as the chemical itself is the oral version of drostanolone.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Regardless of what is in the name
His testosterone levels were so high he failed a drug test. If you take a “supplement” “once in a while for rehab” it’s not going to make your testosterone levels more than 4 times higher than it should be. Absolutely ridiculous. If you’re completely on Mo’s side than you are completely and easily duped.
nicey - January 23, 2012
Mo cheated and got busted. Now he's trying to cover up his tracks by distorting the truth.
You messed up, accept your punishment like man and move on.
daftshadow - January 23, 2012
he is
he’s not going to apply for an appeal cause he knows he took it and didn’t fully research into it
HitokiriX - January 23, 2012
If Mo can prove this supplement causes the results he got, testosterone levels or whatever, then again I’m on his side.
OzzDee - January 23, 2012
It is the same steroid
just an oral form.
A superdrol clone.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
But he didn't know it
As he bought it in a legal shop thinking it’s a normal suplement. You can only blame him for not researching and I wouldn’t be too hard on him for that. Can happen.
OzzDee - January 23, 2012
I'm not judging
I was just sharing the information with you.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
You show your ignorance.....
He didn’t get busted for high testosterone levels dummy, he got busted for having “a substance known as Methyldrostanolone, which is basically just a pill format of Drostanolone” in his system.
This shows 99% of all these poster’s ignorance on the subject!
Martin Arredondo - January 23, 2012
I'm not, the manufacterer of superdrol(the one that is sold over the counter, anabolic extreme) is KNOWN for creating borderline designer steroid products, some of their products have been banned by the FDA
after being sold for years, so 3 years ago, sure he might had that excuse(which would still be stupid). But now, 1 google search for superdrol and you know it all.
This guy a s pro, everything he eats and everyway he trains impacts his career, he then goes out to buy a supplement, of which he obviously has no knowledge, and does not even take the effort to google the product or run it by the commission? Comon son
CVD - January 23, 2012
Thank you
Its old school superdrol or a clone of it.
AAS stands for anabolic-androgenic steroid. Or just anabolic steroid.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
omg shogun roids too look at his sponsor it has part of "anabolic" in its NAME
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
point being?
CVD - January 23, 2012
just finding the word "anabolic" in the product's decription isn't exactly a smoking gun
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
If something claims to be a powerful anabolic agent
its saying it is a steroid.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
True, but like I said, if your career depends on what you eat/take, I would assume you would gain a basic understanding of supps
CVD - January 23, 2012
nuff’ said.
juanchoD - January 23, 2012
Really a picture of Shogun?
and it isn’t even the word anabolic. Can you read? it says Nutrabolics… sound it out NUUU TRAA BOLICS.
nickrodamous - January 23, 2012
I used to wrestle varsity
Not at a level ANYWHERE close to Mo’s, and even at that level we had several workshops per season where they would keep warning us about medications/supplements which could be banned. The message always was “do not take anything unless you are sure it does not contain banned substances”. I suspect Mo has had at least 50 times as many such meetings…
DrFernando - January 24, 2012
kinghaze - January 23, 2012
Nice subject line.
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 23, 2012
Sounds like they researched...
…what over the counter stuff had this banned substance in it and then, “OH this is what i was taking… It’s been off the shelf for a while, but this was it.”
karmaportrait - January 23, 2012
I just want to be sure that Lorenz Larkin is getting his f'cking No-Contest
Chris Groves - January 23, 2012
You’re a professional goddamned athlete. Asking Doug the Counter Guy for advice should get you suspended on principle for being such a fucking idiot.
BVandDietPepsi - January 23, 2012
This x 10.
Such dumbdouchitude [sic], if it turns out to be, in fact, what happened, must not be allowed to stand.
Unabomberman - January 23, 2012
I had no idea you could just walk into a GNC and get “steroids”. I always assumed it was as syringes in a dark alley behind the gym in a windowless van from a shady meathead looking dude
terzergoss - January 23, 2012
you really can't
GNC doesn’t carry the good stuff anymore.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
^^This Guy knows his $hit!^^
kinghaze - January 23, 2012
does Max Muscle
or any other store?
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
There are plenty of stores online
that carry every type of AAS clone you can think of.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
too bad I don't want to gain a bunch of weight, lol
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
I don't think anyone should take them
for looks.
If you don’t need them for performance, don’t take them.
That said, not every AAS makes you big.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Weird
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
not looks
as much as increased energy to help lose weight, but I totally agree
whats weird?
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
On my screen
It posted it twice and cut out the bottom half of the comment.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
lol, does weird stuff on my computer all the time
any suggestions for energy/weight loss?
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
You mean naturally?
Tons of fresh fruits and veggies. Small portions of lean meat.
Lift in the mornings. Switch your cardio to HIIT. Jump rope. Cycling and swimming would be great, but most people can’t. Sprints are great, too.
Stay extremely well-hydrated. That’s a big one.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Develop a routine
Waking up, eating, lifting, cardio and sleeping at the same time of the day each day.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Thanks
is the doing stuff at the same time of the day that important physiologically or just for the sake of keeping a routine?
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
Both
It maintains a constant blood sugar level, takes advantage of the bodies natural hormone cycle and also keeps you on track.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Get plenty of sleep, too
Its very important. Naps are awesome.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
sleep is one of my biggest problems
during the work week my sleep schedule is really weird and I don’t get much, and on my weekends I stay up late and sleep in. I really need to work on that, it’d probably help with energy too, lol.
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
i’m sure mo will send you whatever he has left of this drug.
Phildo - January 23, 2012
Wrong. The guilty party is Muhammed Lawal.
Ikuhisa Quinoa - January 23, 2012
Read the entire piece
please and you’ll know he accepts that
HitokiriX - January 23, 2012
C'mon Mo...
ZapRowsdower - January 23, 2012
Step 1: Look on the Interwebz for an over-the-counter supplement known to return positive steroid results
Step 2: Claim to have taken that product
Step 3: ….
Step 4: Profit!
Dave Strummer - January 23, 2012
At the very least
He should have to provide the pill glass.
wonderfulspam - January 23, 2012
welp, i looked up s-mass lean gainer on google
Seems like it was pretty obvious to the bodybuilding community that it was basically superdrol, which is a steroid and apparently a nasty one at that. One that can fuck up your liver big time.
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
If i take S-Mass Lean Gainer will i get super buff? Or do i have to still excercise?
terzergoss - January 23, 2012
http://www.androcycle.com/superdrol/
Rob Young - January 23, 2012
You gotta work out
harder than you ever have before. Then do it again, everyday for a few weeks.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Why take the supplment if you only gain 20 lbs of “water” muscle? arent fighters trying to cut weight?
terzergoss - January 23, 2012
If that were true
that would make sense.
But that’s not how it really works. There’s a lot of different compounds and some give you very dry gains.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
Seriously, enough of this BULLSHIT!
dajulzta - January 23, 2012 via Android app
S-Mass is the most powerful designer anabolic ever created and is probably the least expensive on the market. S-Mass represents a quality designer anabolic and an affordable price.
sklart - January 23, 2012
Dear mR King
MostDiabolicalCasanova - January 23, 2012
Smeagol?
warren305 - January 23, 2012
He took tiger blood supplements?
DrFernando - January 24, 2012
Hey Mo my friend rolls his own ciggs and offered me one so I said sure as long as its safe turns out there was some marijuana in it and I failed my random drug test at work...
Sounds real fucking dumb right?
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Also
Kogan go fuck your mutha.
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Anytime i hear the name “Kogan” i immediately become angry for some reason.
MaximumWatermelon - January 23, 2012
You know you care too much about MMA when…
castleeb - January 23, 2012
It’s your career?
MaximumWatermelon - January 24, 2012
He bought it in a legal shop
Thinking it’s a normal supplement. What doesn this have to do with someone rolling his own ciggs?
OzzDee - January 23, 2012
The point is whether you purchase something or of its given to you if your putting it into your body perhaps you should know what's in it....
Also,
Go fuck your mutha sideways.
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
didn’t realise sideways was an option… we shud all be happy to hear from a mutha fucking expert.
rohedron - January 23, 2012
Only the best... Superman that hoe
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
I honestly didnt know you could buy some supplements over the counter and have it be illegal. I just naturally assumed that the DEA would ban anything illegal. Shows how much i know
terzergoss - January 23, 2012
thats the problem with supplements
they’re not really regulated very well.
Also, illegal in terms of competitions doesnt necesarily mean illegal as far as the law is concerned.
Sean in Vancouver - January 23, 2012
This is the issue.
One thing is, the drugs have to proven(or claimed by the right person) to be unsafe, which takes time and money. The second issue, chemist are always a step ahead and just synthesize a new molecule that mimics the old illegal one.
TheFilt - January 23, 2012
Banned for competition doesn't necessarily equals illegal.
Sweet Scientist - January 23, 2012
Google superdrol
Read something
???
lol
chillnnsht - January 23, 2012
How many folks that got caught for roiding and blamed a supplement for it
Did you see to actually come out and show the world the supplement? I don’t see too many, give the man a break
OzzDee - January 23, 2012
In other news Mousasi vs Mike Kyle seems like a solid fight
Robust23 - January 23, 2012
mo keepin is gangsta
gxc - January 23, 2012
Jesus that girl must break backs & snap off peckers
She’s the Paul Harris of humping
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Holy jesus wtf???
eyeIess - January 23, 2012
Bonus stage, she is doing it wrong though.
spectaa - January 23, 2012
HAHAHA
Charles Awad - January 23, 2012
How is this not green?
wonderfulspam - January 23, 2012
Mobile rec
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
What explosive athleticism
joker24 - January 23, 2012
this never gets old
lol
Bonedoctor - January 23, 2012
Shit, dog...
Iill take my chances…
.
.
.
I’d hit it.
Unabomberman - January 23, 2012
I always wondered...
….if the 5$ extra for hand buffing was worth it at the car wash.
Snake_Pliskan - January 23, 2012
anabollocks
mollcutpurse - January 23, 2012
Fighters need to have a piss friendly supplements list that they can go to for information, basically you shouldnt take anything thats not on the list and has been verified. Ill call it the wizzipedia of supplements.
terzergoss - January 23, 2012
Or they need to stop relying so heavily on supplements. I understand supplements for injuries and extra protein, but since when is eating right and training hard not enough?
MaximumWatermelon - January 23, 2012
Is that a serious question?
WheelieMonkey - January 24, 2012
He's definitely guilty of stupidity so it doesn't really help him too much, strict liability yada yada
But I mean it’s rectifiable to a certain extent. People were saying he should name the supplement: he did. What more do you want?
Now he should go out on his own and get tested independently on a regular basis so he can show the world he is clean. It might cost him a few grand for a year, but if he went out to a lab and got tested every 2-3 weeks for a year, wouldn’t that lend him some credibility going forward?
joker24 - January 23, 2012
I don't believe anything he's saying...
…but I also couldn’t care less if grown men and women want to use steroids. Pretty much a wash for me.
Corrupted - January 23, 2012
IT"S NOT AN ORALLY ACTIVE ANABOLIC
Masteron does not have the chemical makeup to be converted into an oral formula. It’s not possible to have taken an oral supplement and test positive for this, it’s not scientifically possible.
CRWHITLOCK - January 23, 2012
Telling this story might get his suspension reduced in California, but I’m not sure about Nevada. Does anyone know of anyone getting a suspension reduced in Nevada?
Phildo - January 23, 2012
Does it matter?
I always assumed that unless you are not suspended anywhere, you are suspended everywhere, given how athletic commissions operate.
Unabomberman - January 23, 2012
How nevada handles appeals definitely matters. The original state is the one that sets the length of the suspension. Every state enforces it, but they will only enforce what Nevada says.
Phildo - January 23, 2012
NOT SHADY AT ALL
1. Get caught roiding
2. Deny allegation. Act stunned that “anything” could possibly cause it
3. Have managers and trainers act even more stunned and confused about possible causes as they have never apparanty even heard of the various possible causes
4. Don’t ask for B sample to be tested, despite there being zero downside and a possible upside
5. Float possibility of a cortisone knee injection somehow being the cause.
6. Withdraw knee theory after realizing that the connection is laughable
7. Continue to try and gain sympathy from regulators by not claiming innocence but promising to continue to do research and clear your name that way
8. Although it’s the first thing everybody else would normally think to check, take many more days of “research” into the mystery, before suddenly publicly realizing that OH YEAH,…supplements!
9. Go back in time 7 months to purchase said supplement for future use because it’s important to plan ahead and you never know what might get banned later (Use cash and the advice of an unnamed employee to complete the transaction to keep everything above board)
10. Get online community distracted about minutia such as labelling, while the logic of your story and actions prove decisively that you didn’t just eff up a roiding cycle( because MMA fans know that actual roiding is an incredibly rare occurence in sports and nobody has figured out ways around it)
11. Make entire thing look like an admission and denial at the same time so that apologists and detractors can both feel vindicated
YODA YODA - January 23, 2012
12. Profit $$$…?
Shnak - January 24, 2012
Athletes are responsible for every single substance they put in their bodies
Food, medicine, steroids, whatever. It’s their responsibility. Period.
I’m so sick of the denials. It’s so pathetic.
PackMMA - January 23, 2012
Word...
And he said he’s not even fighting it so that alone should let us know he’s admitting guilt
RECE ROCK - January 23, 2012 via mobile
Best case scenario for Mo, he only gets a 6 or 9 month suspension.
If it is true, you would think he might be able to sue the company for false advertising, and get money back for lost wages due to their product.
Worst case scenario, he still gets his 12 month suspension, and this company sues him.
dpk875 - January 23, 2012
For all those to think hes lying
How is it that a company can go around destroying peoples reputation and get away with it? because people like you who want to hate the player, instead of blaming the people that made the drug and disguised it… how many other fighters have used this and got screwed over? And they might not even know how they tested positive. What else is out there like this
Jason Robillard - January 23, 2012
well
that has nothing to do with the drug and Mo… that Ariel being a dumb ass and looking on the internet… do you really think thats what it says on the bottle?
Jason Robillard - January 23, 2012
ah fuck it, i think i believe him
darkotto23 - January 23, 2012
Ya how can you blame him
He got screwed over bigtime… and this thing has been going on for a long time i bet.
Jason Robillard - January 23, 2012
Don’t really see how he was screwed over. He took a drug who’s main ingredient was a banned substance. That’s the risk you take for not using certified supplements and using drugs that you bought over a year ago.
Phildo - January 23, 2012
From firsthand experience
I can tell you that these product descriptions are often written by people with little scientific knowledge of the products, so writing “anabolic” on it doesn’t mean fuck all.
I can also tell you that there are companies like Muscle Pharm and more that are double-certified to be banned substance-free, and so any professional athlete who’s complaining about getting caught by a shady over-the-counter drug and using that as an excuse is either a complete fucking idiot for taking cheap uncertified supplements or lying through their teeth
TLow - January 23, 2012
I feel the urge to believe him
Cunny - January 24, 2012
Seriously Mo/Kogan ?
menckenstein - January 24, 2012
the athletic commission will never admit they’re wrong. about anything.
most of their officials don’t even know what an armbar or a heel hook is, except for the part of the body being leveraged.
as for false positives, i’m sure it happens. it’s like when sherk tried to fight his case, and showed how a slew of OTC supplements can come back with a positive on a drug screen for PED’s.
theworldsoldestsport - January 24, 2012
Being OTC and being allowed have nothing to do with each other.
Phildo - January 24, 2012
One of the most knowledgeble man in MMA got out gameplanned by a bag of powder.
You’d think that after all those “OTC” positive steroid tests some people would learn.
That or he’s a lier and a cheater.
dancingChicken - January 24, 2012
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