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It's been an interesting night in Twitterland with Dana White being challenged about the UFC's support of SOPA and responding with the same old statements about people stealing from the business he helped grow. The situation went south quickly with "Josh The God" (the guy from UGNazi who carried out the attack on the UFC.com website) saying that they were now going after Dana himself rather than the website.
As Dana continued to talk about terrorist hackers and pirates (including a line of "I'm rite here"), there were continued suggestions that something big was about to happen. And then a tweet went out with a link sharing all of Dana White's personal information. That means his social security number, addresses dating back to 1997 and criminal record.
This is an ugly battle and the more you do to try to fight back against them, the more it entices the rest of their "community" to come at you. This was a major shot by this group and Dana can not be pleased.
Note: Any sharing of the link with his information will result in an immediate and permanent ban. This is being reported as a news story, not as an excuse to help people get Dana's personal information.
Dana's twitter conversation with Anonymous after the jump...
Note: This is Kid Nate, I'm closing comments on this thread since we can't stay up all night to moderate it.
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OOOOOH I'm opening a Dana White credit card as we speak!!!
Obviously I’m just joking.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Yeah, that's not a smart thing to do
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Challenge hackers?
Correct.
HTP!
bigstupidsmile - January 26, 2012
Here’s my favorite “come at me, anonymous” story (worth the watch). This might get ugly…
Disco1Stu - January 26, 2012
In the words of Joe Rogan, you can’t stop the Internet.
FreeFocus - January 26, 2012
Using a "Come at me bro" hashtag on Twitter only works against other people who use hashtags.
SanFranpsycho - January 26, 2012
Yep.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Are we allowed to discuss his criminal record?
Kefka - January 26, 2012
Don't worry
We’ll be discussing that on the next thread.
TheFilt - January 26, 2012
didn't know he had one.
this shit just got real. and ugly.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
I dont even feel safe posting on this thread for fear of being banned here D:<
mikeI981j - January 26, 2012
banned
~Peregrine - January 26, 2012
Oh yes, the infamous "BE, the tyrannical MMA site" fallacy. That never gets old.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Quick call anonnymous. On the annonymous phone at the annonymous number to the annonymous guy. Damn Who am I calling again.
dandeman - January 26, 2012
I was joking but you're kinda proving my point
Everyone on here is drop dead serious at all times lol. Have to keep it straight faced around here =|
mikeI981j - January 26, 2012
You should have used the sarcasm font. R.Wade loves it.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
lol I have been here for a couple years and I still don’t know how to use it, I asked one time and everyone told me I don’t need to learn it >_<
mikeI981j - January 26, 2012
I can see Dana's next tweet now:
:(
BROCKLESNAR!!!!! - January 26, 2012
Saw the conversation between Dana and AnonNews. Anonymous seemed to be cordial to him and Dana just exploded against them
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Do you have a link?
Kefka - January 26, 2012
You have to go into Dana's twitter account
Just click where he mentions youanonnews and see the whole conversation
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Thanks.
Kefka - January 26, 2012
And, honestly, continued to show how out of touch they are with what SOPA is. They just keep going with the “people are stealing from us” instead of realizing that there are better ways to accomplish the same thing.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
They write to him about helping with social issues
He answers with “DON’T STEAL FROM ME”
I just don’t understand why he’s doing it.
IRodC - January 26, 2012
He might not be the wily businessman some thought he was.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
At the very least he's showing he's not as new-media-savvy as he thinks he is.
“Words are wind” is a thing of the past. Especially in these days we happen to live in.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
listen, he can still be a good business man
And be unaware of the Anonymous phenomenon.
But I have to say, I have serious doubts about his ability to see that the cost of protecting his content might be a loss of freedom in other areas for the rest of us. And this lack of understanding may come to cost him big time, because he isn’t going to win against anon.. All this is going to do is cost him a LOT of money. If he sets up the UFC as the next Playstation network he will regret it big time. I just think that the same strengths, or character traits that got him to where he is, in this situation, could lead to some very unfortunate events.
And finally, HOLY CRAP I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY DOXED DANA FREAKING WHITE!!! Man, they have doxed a lot of security people from top worldwide security firms but somehow this makes me much more surprised. I really have a hard time believing this is really going down, what a bad position he’s taking, uggh.
DankNabbot - January 26, 2012
They got Eric Holder, I noticed.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Dana's tough guy shit isn't gonna work against Anonymous
He doesn’t have anything they want. He has no power of them as a result. Cursing and posturing will only lead to more attacks on him and the UFC.
I imagine this is the first time in a long time Dana can’t do anything to or about his enemies.
The Lethal Haze - January 26, 2012
Apparently he’s tweeted that he’s revoking their credentials. Old habits, I guess.
KingBrody - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Okay, that’s really funny
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
Internet win.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
Happy to green this
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
Sherdoggers?
poor Jeff Sherwood can’t catch a break
Ben Bauman - January 26, 2012
That was awesome
mthom - January 26, 2012 via mobile
oh lord thats rec
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
OH MY GOD
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
THEY'RE COMING FOR MEEEEEEEE
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
The real tragedy here is that Google Maps has no streetview of Dana’s house!
LEMME SEE THE WATERSLIDES!
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
It does NOT look like Dana would live in either of these places.
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
I mean his current addy.
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
I can't see Dana playing tennis.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Maybe this would teach Dana when he should shut his mouth.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
If this doesn't do it,
it’s gonna be fun to watch if he persists.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
Dear Dana White,
Pick your battles.
Signed,
Any Notion of Sense
pdl - January 26, 2012
this
jim-ma - January 26, 2012
He tought the Feds had his back
TheFilt - January 26, 2012
You're right
Just walk away like you did when the mobsters came to collect money in Boston. These anonymous groups penetrate governments they don’t fuck around scary shit.
Coeman - January 26, 2012
The fact that Zuffa has an IT department
and none of them are smart enough to stop these hackers is the best part. Like Dana has nothing he can do in response except keep cursing.
Matthew Roth - January 26, 2012
To be fair
these hackers have hit organizations way bigger than the UFC and they couldn’t do anything either.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
How often do these kinds of hacks get caught by the police/FBI,etc?
Kefka - January 26, 2012
It's not very likely
I think even the european parliament got hacked recently. I’m sure they are searching for them but don’t know if they can catch them, or prove anything if they do
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Not often I think
the fact that Anonymous is just a bunch of random people on the internet from all around the world that don’t actually know each other in real life makes it hard for people to catch them.
They’re pretty good at covering their tracks too.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
It's gnarly computer scientists from around the world who likely do either questionably legal
or definitely illegal but too hard to make a charge stick sort of computer work for a living. Then a ton of idiots who they use for DDOS attacks.
pdl - January 26, 2012
a virtual Zombie apocalypse
if you will. ..ahem.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
Practically never.
Even when Sony claimed that Anon hackers had been caught in London, they allegedly got ONE guy actually convicted in a sting that caught 20+ people.
Methinks his name was Lulzsec or something.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
It was kind of fucked up too
that one person had some sort of mental disability or something.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
kevin Mitnick
Shocbomb - January 26, 2012
Who now makes bank as a security consultant
computer crime has very low downside for the people who are good at it.
Dave Strummer - January 26, 2012
They usually get jobs working security pretty easily lol. Its like hiring a criminal to protect you from other criminals/
mikeI981j - January 26, 2012
I've watched White Collar
IRodC - January 26, 2012
I haven’t, whats that ? =\
mikeI981j - January 26, 2012
A criminal that solves crimes
IRodC - January 26, 2012
I didn’t read your comment until I already replied below… That’s the dude I knew. Hopefully for his sake they can’t prove him guilty.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
usally when they do get caught they cut a deal and end up working for goverment
Shocbomb - January 26, 2012
just look at Mitnick,he went from hacking into the national defense warning system then after he got caught and turned white hat and helped prevent future attacks on the system
Shocbomb - January 26, 2012
often
Just as a part of mitigation and not prevention. DDoS, and DoS can be dropped by analyzers, but It’s difficult to prevent a really talented attacker from accessing parts of your system if you haven’t hardened everything. I did basic recon (information they share but should not IMO) on UFC for a project during my MS; and they have some issues.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
allegedly.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
Caught in the sense
that they are noticed during the attempts. Not caught in the sense that they are prosecuted. Some of these guys are using very sophisticated squid proxies and drops.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
One of my old high school acquaintances was a part of Anonymous and got arrested after the Sony incident.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Oops, I guess I should have said allegedly, he hasn't been found guilty yet that I'm aware of.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
to asnwer your question
Anonymous distributes software that tons of kids upload through sites like 4chan, and the authors of the tools don’t get caught. Usually some kids getting tentacle porn off /b also download programs like Low Orbit Ion Cannon (LOIC) that they run when an attack is underway, maybe through a remixer or proxy server. The ones getting caught are the casual guys, the leaders are not really getting caught at all. There are whole transcripts of FBI interviews that have been posted, they are pretty funny.
DankNabbot - January 26, 2012
OH MAN
BROCKLESNAR!!!!! - January 26, 2012
Is that Barry Pepper? What’s that from?
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
Supernatural
Chris Barton - January 26, 2012
I actually love seing Dana helpless
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Don’t fuck with the internet, it will fuck back.
Patrick Tenney - January 26, 2012
porn sites disagree
Rod Mapada - January 26, 2012
Give it a few more years.
Brad Ackerson - January 26, 2012
Just read the twitter conversation Dana had with Anonymous
he comes off like a meat head jock.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
yep
he sure does. youranonnews tried to start a pretty cordial conversation with Dana but he just flies off the handle and starts yelling the same things over and over.
I guess the tough meat head jock act doesn’t really work when on the vast internet.
Cindjor - January 26, 2012
In his defense its sort of like someone pulling down your pants in front of everyone then trying to ask you how your days going XD
mikeI981j - January 26, 2012
I knew this was gonna happen
As I was listening to him say the words, I was thinking “What are they going to do to now?”.
The roids are really frying Dana’s neurons.
TheFilt - January 26, 2012
"Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns."
pud333 - January 26, 2012
WORD.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
You do not pick a fight with the internet
Because you’ll always lose, no matter who you are.
Maclovio Williams - January 26, 2012
Ask these tough guys:
They know some about it.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
Just don't do it man
The people that build the internet can also tear it down.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
Yeah. Dana, for all his business acumen is still really shaped like an old time who thinks that speaking the loudest on a given situation is gonna give you the edge with the audience.
Shit don’t work like that no more, and now he’s getting educated on this matter by none other than a bunch of doods from their laptops.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
I thought this was funny, at least.
And if you read all of the stuff, Dana said some stupid things, but also made some good points. The owner of that Twitter account is also being incredibly hypocritical and using tons of strawman arguments.
Tim Bernier - January 26, 2012
Well, to be honest.
Both of them make pretty bad arguments. But I still side with Dana on this one.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
Lolwut?
C’mon, nobody disagrees that piracy is bad but really, how can you be on his side?
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
B/c he probably thinks that SOPA and PIPA are exclusively anti-piracy, when they aren't.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Dana White can't see past his own profit line.
Much more is at stake indeed.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
As far as Dana White's statement that stealing the UFC's product hurts his fighters, I think he's right.
Fighters’ pay isn’t going to get better when the biggest MMA promotion in the world is fighting a two-front battle on over-saturation and Internet piracy.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
Of course
But that has very little to do with the issue. Nobody* is saying piracy is a good thing.
*okay, a few people are, but that’s a whole different discussion.
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
Well put.
We can support the UFC, which, as a matter of fact, most of us do, and oppose SOPA and PIPA at the same time. Sad to see that Dana can’t see that.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
THIS.
A million times over, THIS.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
I never pirate stuff. Movies or music.
Yet SOPA threatens my freedom of expression so I will bitch about it.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
He’s not going on Twitter right now and defending PIPA or SOPA. Go read it. He’s being reasonable.
Tim Bernier - January 26, 2012
I kind of thought McKinley was saying he sided with Dana on the whole SOPA/PIPA discussion, which he didn’t say. My bad.
In any case, I don’t agree that a) Dana White is being reasonable or that b) the fact that youranonnews are incoherent idiots means that you should automatically side with whoever they’re arguing with.
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
Actually
the argument that piracy is bad for business is WRONG. There are studies that show that the people who pirate the most are among the highest spenders on content type pirated. So they may stream a lot, but they are the ones who buy a lot too. Think of it as a loss leader that you don’t have to pay for.
And in the end, he is ignoring the fact that the cost of law like SOPA is very real and there are consequences that outweigh his ability to bust the casual streamer. His willful ignorance of this is shortsighted and totally narcissistic, and is about to cost him.
DankNabbot - January 26, 2012
The thing is
It’s not necessarily that group that is “stealing shit from him”. They also didn’t claim responsability for the attacks on the UFC website.
IRodC - January 26, 2012
That should be Dana's only message.
“Do your thing but don’t steal stuff” is a responsible, defensible point with tons of merit. Name calling is none of those things.
pdl - January 26, 2012
The problem is, even his good points act as though supporting SOPA makes any sort of sense. I agree, piracy is bad! That doesn’t mean you need to do such an amazing amount of overkill as the completely alter the entire internet.,
It’s like when the government wanted to ban MMA altogether rather than taking appropriate steps for regulation. “burn it to the ground” isn’t the solution.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
Oh I agree, I frequent Reddit and am well aware of the risks they face, and I’ve talked to Dick Durban for a minute. Dana doesn’t understand everything, and he flat out said multiple times on Twitter that SOPA isn’t perfect. He’s being a bit of an idiot, but siding with Anon right now is incredibly ridiculous. That Twitter account is contradicting itself so hard.
Tim Bernier - January 26, 2012
I’m not siding with anyone who supports SOPA and I’m not siding with anyone who releases someone’s SSN.
I’m just talking about the UFC’s continued SOPA support.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
No no, you must choose.
You are either with us or you are a terrorist.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
yeah
or were going to attack you
attgnp - January 26, 2012
that terrorrist line
was the step too far. That is one tweet he’s going to regret.
DankNabbot - January 26, 2012
It was in the interview with MMAFighting as well.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Nobody is siding with anon
But his attitude towrds that organization might bring him some trouble. We would prefer that he wouldn’t use that alphamale attitude against people who have access to a ton of information.
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Horrible move by anonymous.
Drops - January 26, 2012
I love the fact that Dana has no idea what he's saying anymore
and just keeps telling Anonymous to stop stealing his shit in all of his posts.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
Ok whoa, I see a whole lot of people here saying "piracy is bad."
Let’s not jump to conclusions.
pdl - January 26, 2012
Piracy is "bad"
But when movie theaters charge me $12 pre-popcorn when I can get that movie on a BitTorrent for free…in an economic recession, guess what I’m choosing!
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I think you hit the root of the problem
They just charge wayyyy to much for shit
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Same problem with video games.
Microsoft’s reportedly making a console that won’t accept used game disks. Bad move, and drives people to their competition.
Easier solution — charge less for the games, which will help way more in the long run.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
Yeah, if microsoft pulls that shit they are going to be doomed in the video game world. I’m selling my Xbox anyway but if Microsoft were to do that my next council will surely be a playstation.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Even Microsoft clearly wants everyone to just go ahead and buy PlayStation3
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Plus fucking xbox charges $60 a year to play online. Playstation is free. Fuck greedy corporations.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
I can't for the life of me understand this mentality
Is it worth >$60 to play online? If yes—-then they are greedy for providing you a service that you value more than $60? Whuuut? If no—-why should they be obligated to provide you a service for free?
Playstation online isn’t “free”, you pay for it with an increased console price and with it being a marketing strategy loss leader for you to buy games.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
I tend to agree with this
I don’t complain that UFC PPVs cost a certain amount of money, I either buy them or I don’t*. It’s only greedy when you pay for something only to get tricked into buying something else (eg. faulty consoles, forcing you to buy a new one).
*I actually don’t pay for PPVs, god bless non-US TV deals!
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
You mean like the 2 xboxes I had red ring? Luckily I new a girl at best buy who magically gave me lifetime warranties on them.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
knew*
attgnp - January 26, 2012
not only that, it’s the fact that the infrastructure for PSN is costing them enough money to finally lead them to implement the PlaystatioPlus memberships. i don’t think it’s overpriced to have a $5 a month membership with all the goodies i get.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
I can't understand this mentality.
The idea that you should pay extra to play multiplayer is a laughable nonsense concept that is nothing more than Microsoft just nickel and diming their users for a basic feature that’s been available for years.
Akemi Homura - January 26, 2012
The competition on xbl is a lot better than psn so its kind of worth it to me
Art_Wanderlei - January 26, 2012
If by "better" you mean more inclined to shout the n-word every few seconds, then yes, I have found them to be better.
Balrog - January 26, 2012
You have a point I just stopped using the headset because of all the shit that gets said
Art_Wanderlei - January 26, 2012
Its how much they charge. I’m already paying a small fortune for the council, $60 bucks for a game and, then the internet yet they are going to charge to play the game I already paid for on the internet I already paid for.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
So
You value playing on the internet, but think they should provide that access to you for free? You are under no requirements to purchase XBL, this is a voluntary action.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
Not for free but they mark the shit up big time. Another example they release a game and then in a month oh hey we’re releasing a map pack of 4 maps that cost half as much as the game. If you don’t buy said map packs you get booted from the room you’re playing in for not having them. Its bullshit.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
So you think they should set the prices singularly to what you think they should be?
And if it’s not worth it, don’t buy the games.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
Uh What
I have internet and the Console with the game what else do I have to DO so I can play my game online??? I Need a monthly membership to M$ thanks but no thanks. FYI its the game companies not M$ or $ony unless its made by there studios. So M$ charging a monthly fees so I can play CoD or any other non M$ is just more BS greed.
Newblood - January 26, 2012
Then don't play online?
joker24 - January 26, 2012
Then Buy a PS3
Problem solved.
Newblood - January 26, 2012
Yep
Although it’s a more expensive console and even then it’s basically just a marketing strategy to get people to buy more games.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
Oh Noos...
Having more money to spend on actually gaming products and not put into M$ Already Massive pockets for no reason at all.
Sorry more expensive Is just a Marketing Gimmick M$ sold/told you so would buy the cheapest/arcade edition with no hard drive/ wifi or blu ray player and a DRM Shackled Console. But whatever some people like the punishment M$ gives them. I’m sure you defended M$ reasoning for Bullying Netscape Navigator and there monopoly practices.
Newblood - January 26, 2012
(I have a Playstation, just pointing out that you're paying for stuff one way or the other)
It’s funny that you mention the IE monopoly case, since they were blamed for unfair trade practices since they bundled IE with Windows for “free” to debase Netscape’s paid model. Basically every economist thought that ruling was a joke.
And in retrospect it becomes even a bigger joke—-all it took was a better browser to basically dethrone IE as I type to you in Chrome.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
In Retrospect its even worse
M$ Monopoly is back together. Netscape was already hurt badly back then by the IE bundle and had to be brought out by AOL. Maybe Netscape could have blossomed instead it was snuffed out thanks to unfair practices.
Newblood - January 26, 2012
Netscape birthed Firefox
(grossly oversimplified, but still) its a wash imo.
The Lethal Haze - January 26, 2012
Personally, and feel free to call me a tinfoil hat wearing loon, but
I think Microsoft knows that’s a bad move.
Remember the Red Ring of Death? I’m sure Microsoft profited a shitload off of that malfunction because it caused tons of people to have to buy new consoles.
I feel like the whole, “Xbox 720 (or whatever it’ll be called) won’t play used games” idea is going to be next generation’s RRoD. They’ll release it, a ton of people will complain but buy it anyway, then they’ll release a new one that will play used games and ‘apologize’ while laughing all the way to the bank.
I’m probably just being super-paranoid or stupid, but that’s honestly what I think they’re doing.
Shawn1379 - January 26, 2012
i dunno about that...
you’re forgetting they had to replace a ton of consoles too, and pay for shipping. far more people had them replaced through Microsoft than purchase a new one out of pocket. that alone had them in the red for the first few years of the console. Microsoft didn’t start posting profits for the 360 until about ‘07-’08 – they didn’t make enough money for that hypothesis to be even halfway possible.
i had two of them bricked and got the updated black one as soon as it came out with a trade-in. anything else regarding a future console is merely speculation and rumors at this point. i doubt they’d do something that stupid.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
Yeah, like I said,
I’m probably just being paranoid or something, and I’m not intentionally accusing Microsoft of doing anything underhanded. I’m just tossing an idea I initially had about the situation out there.
It’s certainly entirely possible that I’m mistaken.
Shawn1379 - January 26, 2012
Microsoft had to pony up and extend the warranties of the Xbox after the backlash from that. Wanna know how much of a hit that was? 1 billion dollars (in overused Dr. Evil voice).
Shortly after, Peter Moore, the head of the Xbox division at the time, left the company for EA. The timing was suspect at the very least.
Diz D - January 26, 2012
no
Microsoft did not post actual profits on the 360 until about ‘08-’09 [if i remember correctly on the timeline] largely because of the RRoD, which led to them replacing consoles [like two of mine] and paying for shipping on their own via UPS. more people had their devices replaced through Microsoft than there were people that bought a new one out of pocket. nobody can be that stupid to hemmorage the kind of money they did intentionally. your hypothesis is unfortunately incorrect.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
That’s just a rumor and there’s no way that makes it to market.
Diz D - January 26, 2012
They really can't afford to charge less for games because
they lose money on every Xbox console they sell.
BonesBloodyElbow - January 26, 2012
And they want to continue to screw the consumer
By making themselves the only viable and legal option. And that is something that is impossible to do.
That’s why if you don’t sell out an NFL game you can’t watch them on TV. Big companies want money out of you or else you face the consequences. They don’t give a shit about your economic status as long as their status is still high.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
That is a huge part of whats wrong with this country right now. One word can sum it up. Greed
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Country? More like the fucking world.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
Broad statement
I highly doubt Norway is doing the same shit. They’re too busy churning out cybergods like JOE.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
don’t forget that Canada is producing Ninjas of Love…
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
True but
I feel like our country is really really bad about it. Thats why as the middle class is going broke the wealthiest people are just getting richer and richer. Our corporate executives make fucking insane money. Apples new CEO is making something like $385 million. How much money can you need. I could live 20 lifetimes like a king with that amount of money. No one man is worth that much money.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Yeah, it's really bad here in Canada too.
Middle class is shrinking every day. The company I work for had the best year ever in 2011, where they grew their net assets by $1 billion. And what did the average employee get? On average, a 1% pay increase. Awesome.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
yeah or to reward you for your hard work they send your job to China or India. What would that poor CEO do without his 30th yacht, his 15 mansions in 10 countries, his 5 ferraris, 10 lambos, and the politician he owns?
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Or they force you to chose between your job or loyalty to a shitty wage.
I worked for an electronics store, similar to Bestbuy. When we got bought out, the new CEO promised to raise wages. And they did. The trade off? Benefits. My boss offerred me a $0.50 / hour raise. In return, I had to sign a letter indicating I would give up my vacation days in lieu of this increase. I was young and dumb and didn’t know any better, but what I did know, was that those who didn’t sign it, were eventually let go. So I signed it. Then the next week my boss sees me working in the warehouse wearing a pair of jeans that were torn up a bit. He then says, “You just got a raise! Don’t you think you can go buy some new jeans?” I should have quit right then and there, but I needed the money, so I took the bullshit.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
assholes. If you don’t like what I wear provide me a uniform then dick. I’m not going to trash my clothes to make somebody else money. Anyways if your working in a warehouse who gives a shit what you wear. Its not like you’re out in the store selling things to people. I’m soooooo fortunate my family owns a very small business and I don’t have to put up with that shit anymore.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
I don’t know if it’s still in place, but where I live, it used to be that if your employer required you to wear a specific uniform, they would have to a) provide the uniform, and b) provide you with an allowance to keep said uniform clean, or provide cleaning services for you. When I worked for Blockbuster, they used to give me a $5 a paycheque to wash my uniform. When I started working for the electronics company, they didn’t give me that, but still required me to wear their shirts, so I brought it up one day, and magically, the next week we no longer had to wear them if we didn’t want to.
I don’t know if it’s like that now. I haven’t had a job where they made me wear a uniform in, oh, six years or so.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
no.
the root if the problem is all the people downloading shit for free. if more people went to the movies it would be cheaper because the studios would be making their money back same with music and dvds and blue ray.
ClinchKing - January 26, 2012 via Android app
LMAO
Yeah because those studios aren’t making any money as it is. Thats fucking hillarious.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Its also inflation. Never said they weren’t making enough money. Sorry if I don’t believe in stealing peoples hard work. guess I’m just old fashioned in that just because I can steal something I don’t.
ClinchKing - January 26, 2012 via Android app
I’m not into stealing, I am just sick of very wealthy assholes bitching about not making enough money. Set a reasonable price for something and I’ll gladly pay it. The problem is that many modern businesses provide a product and then charge an absurd amount of money for it while paying people slave wages to produce it all so a few “elite” assholes can add more millions to the pile of millions they already have.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
I agree.
ClinchKing - January 26, 2012 via Android app
Then don't buy the product at absurd prices?
joker24 - January 26, 2012
I try not to
but sometimes its not that simple.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
It's not?
joker24 - January 26, 2012
nope
Your sig describes you perfectly. You’re like my wife.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Just trying to understand the "they should give it to me for free" mentality
joker24 - January 26, 2012
I don’t have a “they should give it to me free mentality.” I am all for paying a FAIR price. But when people pay some guy in china $1 a day to work to produce a product and the total cost of said product comes out to $3 then they charge $100 for it that is where my problem is.
My sister in law showed me a price vs cost list for products of a very large very well know clothing store I wont specify. This company was charging $30 for underwear that a Chinese factory made for $.10 and $90 for a bra that costed $1 to produce. My problem is that a small group of people make a fucking killing off of something while the people who actually make the product are making literally just enough to survive. Either bring the price of your product down if your going to fuck people over with wages or else pay people a living wage, not the change in your couch.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
It would be funny if you were posting from an ipad
Art_Wanderlei - January 26, 2012
yes
I’m not a fan of Apple products. For instance Itunes fucking sucks.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
meant to say " yes but"
attgnp - January 26, 2012
So
you are posting from your ipad?
D Squared - January 26, 2012
Im wondering the same thing, really ironic/funny if he is
Art_Wanderlei - January 26, 2012
You have a point.
Stealing is stealing. As someone who aspires to create my own art one day, I would be pissed as a mofo if someone took my work without paying for it. And yes, inflation has a lot to do with it.
But even if everyone paid all the time, I don’t think prices would be cheaper. At least, I don’t think it would be that simple. There’s a lot of things at play. But it’s also true that estimated losses are usually factored in to a business’s overhead/costs/pricing.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
Exactly
Prices wouldn’t be any cheaper. They would just be that much richer.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Yeah. Stealing sucks. Mostly.
My band just released an album, and with all the PIPA stuff, it made me sit down and think about all this a lot more than I would’ve liked to.
SanFranpsycho - January 26, 2012
At the end of the day, people are gonna steal what they want if they want. You can’t really eliminate piracy altogether, but you can do things to try to contain it. SOPA is not the way though.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
It's not even that black and white.
I can either go see a movie in IMAX while eating Mike and Ikes or go to a bar with friends and have a 3-5 drinks. I’ll never pick the movie and I won’t pay to buy it. Renting it 25-50 days after the DVD is available for sale only reduces my interest further. If I pirate a movie, I’m not preventing the studio from making that money. I wasn’t going to give it to them anyways.
It’s fallacious to assume that media consumed via piracy would have been consumed otherwise.
pdl - January 26, 2012
High ticket costs, ridiculous food prices, dirty seats, sticky floors, and 10 minutes of commercials, not including the other movie trailers...
not to mention the shithead behind you talking through the whole movie. Going to the movies these days sucks.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
The last time I went to movie theater was 7 years ago. Seriously.
And I think the movie was Eight Below.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I still go for the odd Summer blockbuster.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
I go for this too.
Or a really good movie I hear nothing but great things about, like Drive
IRodC - January 26, 2012
I haven’t seen that yet but I keep meaning to.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
You should. Don’t expect a lot of action but expect a lot of awesomeness. Specially and surprisingly from Albert Brooks
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Good stuff. Now, do I rent it, or just go for a torrent… lol.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
Redbox it. I think it's there now.
Worth it.
IRodC - January 26, 2012
I usually wait for it on NetFlix
Not much of a movie person but watch a ton of documentaries.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Netflix and Hulu Plus for me.
I get more entertainment that I have time for, for a fraction of the price of a cable bill
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Speaking of documentaries
Senna is the shiznit
IRodC - January 26, 2012
word
Diz D - January 26, 2012
The theater where I live costs $5.50 for a ticket and you get free pop and popcorn with your admission. Plus it’s where I worked when I was in high school. It was a bit of a controversy when they made it $7 to go to a 3D movie (still with pop/popcorn included)
So the theaters around here don’t piss me off nearly as much.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
It's probably because of where I live
Seattle is a pretty expensive city. Actually the entire West Coast is.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Yes. 3D movie here costs about $14.
I used to work for a theater right after university (yes, my high priced degree got me a min wage job, 20 hrs a week at the theater, but I digress), and every night after the shows were over, we would throw out bags and bags of popcorn. I’d have to count the empty bags and cups. That’s all they cared about. They charge $5 for a popcorn, which probably cost them pennies. Meanwhile, they refused to give me more hours, or else they might have to give me some benefits too. So to say I am conflicted about movie theaters is an understatement.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
In copenhagen
A 3D movie costs about $18. Don’t get me started on the popcorn prices …
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
Jesus Christ.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
One of the cheaper alternatives
Is this old, tiny movie theather. They “only” charge $13 for a regular movie.
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
My employment started at a theater and then moved to managing the IT department for a movie theater POS software company which meant a lot of trade shows and drunken industry talk.
The real money comes from your concessions, not the tickets. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at the film companies who charge higher and higher percentages for you to get their movies on opening weekend, which means you have to charge more and more for tickets to not take a loss just on getting people into the theater. But because you charge higher ticket prices, people sneak food and drinks into the movie with them, and when you don’t sell your concession (which is massively marked up) then you’re not raking in money at all really.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
This is true. I should have mentioned that.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
But yeah, counting how many cups and bags/buckets for popcorn were sent to “waste” was always fun.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
Oh, and because people are sneaking food in and you’re selling less, that means you have to raise the concession prices in those nice little quarter to 50 cent increments and ding the people who actually buy their shit. Which also alienates more people from buying who then sneak stuff in. And soon it’s $24 for a large popcorn and two drinks.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
well said
I am guilty of sneaking shit it. I simply don’t have the money to pay that much for shit I can get at the store for $3
attgnp - January 26, 2012
I usually go to a bar and get a few drinks and some food before going to the theater.
I’d rather pay $5 for a beer than $5 for popcorn.
Also, because I worked at a theater, I know what we used to regularly clean, and what we didn’t. That’s why to this day I avoid fountain pops whenever I can and don’t touch the hotdogs.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
Beer is ALWAYS the best choice LOL
Hot dogs are nasty anywhere you get them. The shit they grind up into those things makes me want nothing to do with them. Having any low paid employee handle my food scares me. I worked at a Fazolis Italian fast food restaurant in college and saw some nasty shit. One guy ran a baked sandwich through the oven and when it came out the cheese was all melted and gooey. He then dropped it cheese side down onto the filthy ass floor. When he picked it up the cheese had nasty looking shit all over in it and he just slapped it back onto the sandwich and took it out front for the customer. Yummy.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
I wish you would have named a restaurant that wasn't in my city.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
LOL its not really the restaurant. They had us clean the place pretty well at the end of every day. It was more so some of the criminal scum bag employees that had fucking magic mushroom tattoos on their forearms that were the problem.
attgnp - January 26, 2012
Normally I avoid hot dogs in general
but I have a weakness for Japadog. That stuff is the shit.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
True story.
The theater I worked at was really strict about not letting people bring in other food. So one day I was working the doors, ripping tickets, and this woman with her teenage son comes up holding bags of Burger King. So I tell her she can’t bring that in, and she says to me – no, shrieks at me: “MY SON HAS CANCER! FUCK YOU HE’S EATING THIS INSIDE!” And she shoved past me. That’s when I knew I needed to be serious about finding a better job.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
nice. im sure the hormones & antibiotics in the bk helped.
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
They do it his way.
dandeman - January 26, 2012
3D movie where i live
is over 20 bucks. (Northern VA)
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
Holy shit, you could probably wait and buy it on Blu-Ray for that price.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Yeah man.
Just buy the movie. Especially if you are going with someone else. Stay at home and watch it on a good system.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
I’m from the same area. But I haven’t seen a 3D film in a while. Cost 18 bucks last I went, which I believe was Clash of the Titans?
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
WTF.
pud333 - January 26, 2012
theres a $2 theater in the college town i live in
im there once a week. and id have to be pretty fucking excited about a movie to ever spend $12 to see it again.
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
Hey Dana
attgnp - January 26, 2012
OH SHIT
Dana’s middle name really does start with an F. lol
I wonder if he changed it to Dana Fucking White.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
wow, and he is literally the mental opposite of David Foster Wallace
mollcutpurse - January 26, 2012
wow dana, now you fucked up
nastyem - January 26, 2012
@danawhite – We ask that you retract your assertion that we’re all cowards/terrorists
Thats from Anonoymous, Dana better retract his statement fast
SouthAlaBamaRampage - January 26, 2012
It's on.
He’ll never retract that statement. Too proud, too dumb.
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
Not smart on his part.
SouthAlaBamaRampage - January 26, 2012
Can we talk about things from what Anonymous released?
Obviously not things like his SSN, but other things there?
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
Don't post any info
such as his address and phone numbers. If you want to discuss what’s mentioned without giving specifics that’s okay.
Matthew Roth - January 26, 2012
correct
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
I’m just curious about his criminal record.
Tats16 - January 26, 2012
Apparently he lives in Las Vegas
And is President of UFC.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
OMG!!!!!
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Says in this document he also lived in Boston
SCANDALOUS!
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
He used to train in boxing and was a coach at one point. Holy shit!!!
dandeman - January 26, 2012
A Boxercise coach
IRodC - January 26, 2012
It says here that he has a car.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Fine line, dude.
I’d err on the side of caution. We don’t want to look like enablers.
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
From what i understand, Anonymous, has not done anything YET. But Dana is picking a fight with them now and it is a fight that will not end pretty for him
SouthAlaBamaRampage - January 26, 2012
Besides post vital information? Because that they did.
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
I thought that was UGNAZI not Anonymous? Or they the same?
SouthAlaBamaRampage - January 26, 2012
You are correct. I should have clarified. My bust.
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
Another group posted Dana's info
Anonnews retweeted it so we can assume they are on board with this
IRodC - January 26, 2012
From their tweets, it seemed they were cool until Dana started being a dick to them
SouthAlaBamaRampage - January 26, 2012
Anonymous
Is anyone who says they are.
WheelieMonkey - January 26, 2012
That's the best part about it!
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Truly mind blowing if you give it some thought.
And it could only have happened thanks to the internet.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
That's why SOPA has to die
free internet is our generations gift to humanity, we can’t let the governments fuck it up for our children.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
the first rule of anonymous...
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
Vital?
It’s gonna be like 20 minutes of hassle for some assistant to get him a new SS number and another hour for him to call a few banks. It’s not like anyone is gonna be able to open up a credit card in his name.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
While that might be true.
If the hackers go after the company, they can fuck em really badly
IRodC - January 26, 2012
i imagine an attack on the UFC's website during a PPV would cost them alot of $ from the people that watch the PPV's online
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
It’s not nearly that easy. I mean, it sounds that easy. But the amount of trouble this causes is far more than calling some banks and getting a new SSN.
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
Obviously I oversimplified for effect
But this really isn’t that complicated for a guy in Dana’s position.
joker24 - January 26, 2012
A former CIO where I worked (one of the world’s largest international banks) had some identity theft stuff pulled on him. This was a guy who made probably over $3,000,000 a year. He did the changed social thing and all that quickly, but it cost him a SHITLOAD of money over the next year trying to fight against every single thing that happened.
It’s a pain in the ass
Brent Brookhouse - January 26, 2012
Right ok...
How about having his families address posted online? Jackass.
ClinchKing - January 26, 2012 via Android app
an hour to call a few banks????
tried dealing with banks, dmvs, government agencies of late???
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
Don't do it.
It’s better to be safe than sorry
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Can I make things up then?
Yan117 - January 26, 2012
I’m less than impressed with his choice of vehicle, unless that’s an old document.
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
I'm suspect that this is just a small portion of what they could have released
warren305 - January 26, 2012
Okay, so I think UGNazi had old numbers and addresses? Because there is one published now that has a different address and number?
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
yup
Johnathan Willis - January 26, 2012
Now that I think about it...
You can bet there’ll be a bunch of memes popping out after Dana’s docs and dirty laundry are out there, burning the guy.
It’s just not smart to fuck with the damn internet, you numbnuts Dana, you.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Dare I say it, but this is all rather exciting
It’s 2:50am here but I think I’ll hang around a bit longer
Holls Hoyce - January 26, 2012
Exciting indeed, if only b/c it took an entire collective of the internet's version of the U.S navy seals to literally put Dana on that street Brock Lesnar doesn't know the name of.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
sweet handle! i was thinking of honda houssey myslef.
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
Terrorist gonna terrorist
Drops - January 26, 2012
for those of you without twitter here is the recap:
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Dana White
Dana White
Dana White
Anonymous
Dana White
Dana White
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Dana White
Anonymous
Dana White
Anonymous
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
Thanks, man. Very much appreciated.
I’m afraid Dana has quite the pedestrian look of planet Earth. Anyone shocked?
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
i've been following dana on twitter for some time now, and i have a few observations
Yes he does talk a lot of shit, but ha always responds in the same tone or attitude as the people who contact him. Generally if you disagree with him, but aren’t a dick about it he won’t be a dick to you, but if you are an ass to him, he is going to one up you and be a bigger ass.
If you look closely 99% of the time that Dana talks shit to someone is because they instigated him by saying something rude and negative first.
I don’t agree with dana, but i still like and respect him. I just wish he would challenge “the internet” because these type of things can escalate and end up hurting us the fans. I like the internet, and i also like the UFC, i just wish this “beef” would end.
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
^This man speaks the truth
IRodC - January 26, 2012
He also likes Dana White.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
Like like?
IRodC - January 26, 2012
no no, we're just friends...
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
Just the tip
just for a second
just to see how it feels.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
actually i'm lactose intolerant (not really but for the sake of the joke)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-7zTzrSAA
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
*wouldn't challenge....
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
I don’t even oppose “piracy.” The only thing I oppose is people claiming credit for something that they didn’t create. I consider that something quite apart from the free flow of information, which capitalism is clearly opposed to.
FreeFocus - January 26, 2012
agreed.
If someone is taking the UFC’s product illegally then making a profit from it then yea they should go to jail.
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
Dana White's timing is impeccable
Their first full FOX card is this Saturday with two title shots at stake and a rising prospect in Chris Weidman taking a short notice fight…..
And UFC.com gets hacked, says he doesn’t give a shit, and now his personal info is currently on the next tab on my browser thanks to some hackers.
Chances this news is referenced on Saturday night? I’m going with a small chance. Perhaps a scripted statement about piracy or SOPA or hacking.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Good catch. We'll see 'cause he will, for sure, get asked about this.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Yeah, first person to ask about this at the post-fight press conference is getting revoked.
Bet you anything it’s whoever’s there for ESPN.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
I called him.
Left a nice message on his phone about SOPA being wack.
But at least I was nice about it. :D
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
You should have asked for tickets
TheFilt - January 26, 2012
Holy shit you actually called him?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I did
I’m not a coward.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
No way, Rollo.
You are a Kenny Rice.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
I called him.
I’d post his number but I don’t wanna get banned.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
“Dana, maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. Your number still 911? Allllll-righty then.”
BVandDietPepsi - January 26, 2012
Pics or it didn't happen.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Dana’s phone line is busy
sounds like someone is getting a new phone in the AM. :P
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Which number did you call? The Anon News one or UGNazi one?
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
I called them all
only 2 worked.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
I actually got an answer on one of them.
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
lol Nice
It went straight to voicemail for me, and one time he picked up and immediately hung up.
Click/Click style.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Yeah, the one that he answered on sounded like an old man though.
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
E mail me.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
It's a Vegas area code
And then 7 numbers after that.
Try them all, people. Starting from 702-000-0000.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
WOAH MAN WOAH
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Not nessisary
E mail me.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
I have the info with me
Don’t need it, but I’m a coward.
I wonder if I should imitate Mike Goldberg.
“HACKED BY ANONYMOUS AND HAVING HIS PERSONAL INFORMATION EXPOSED, IS DANA WHITE.”
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Joe."
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
"It could be argued, Joe, that this hacking is the Michael Jordan of internet hacks."
“Absolutely, Mike. Anonymous has some elite, K-1 level hacking.”
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I like it
I put a rec on it.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Must...REC.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Triple Rec.
Did it.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
Mobile rec…
RECE ROCK - January 26, 2012 via mobile
He isn’t picking up.
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
I already set him straight so
it’s cool.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
These all must be landlines. I texted him and it says they are, anyway.
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
It took me 5 seconds of googling to find it.
If anybody wants the info, it’s not exactly hidden.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Not anymore :D
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
The web site I found it on is still working after reloading thus far. I’m sad I didn’t get to find out how many ferraris he has.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Well at least you know how many Heath Herring owns
Art_Wanderlei - January 26, 2012
fuck that, rollos a kenny fucking powers!!!
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
Gentleman and scholar etc. pp.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
Don’t feed the trolls Dana.
toxic - January 26, 2012
Dana has to eat at some point, though...
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
Apparently they were being polite with him
Maybe he should make up and hire them to his company.
Side note, the official anonymous never claims responsibility for a lot of attacks. For a bunch of really smart mofos you’d think they’d realize some fanatics would take everything way too far. Or maybe they’re just lying.
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
i've been reading up on Anon, and what seems to be their biggest problem is that they aren't THAT organized
and i don’t think they have a true leader, so when one member or an extremist does something stupid they end up taking the blame.
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
Biggest problem?
More like biggest strength.
Can’t kill what can’t be found.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
And the scary part is that they are just barely getting started.
This shit only got real back then during Project Chanology to me, when the very first worldwide politically motivated flashmobs started appearing. It was quite surreal at the time.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
i guess it's more like a two sided sword.
I’ll admit that i’m not some sort of expert, but from what i read on twitter today, they seem to be more focused on protecting freedom of speech, and promoting awareness to certain issues.
Sure it makes them harder to track but at the same time the reputation of the entire organization can be damaged because some asshole that claims to be part of the group does something stupid like fucking with people on an epilepsy support forum.
darkotto23 - January 26, 2012
Not being organized means it's harder to trace them
A school friend of mine actually saw An0nymous planning a hack on 4Chan.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
You're right, but you've got that wrong.
Being organized in decentralized fashion is their biggest strength, not their biggest problem. Unlike DNS, SOPA won’t be able to ‘shut down anonymous’.
And they don’t give two shits about getting blamed for creating havoc.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
because Anonymous is no one.
And everyone.
It’s just nuts how far we’ve come down the rabbit hole, but that’s technology for ya.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
One head lacks the power of many.
One head is corruptable.
One head is removable.
Everyone’s contribution is equal. Don’t be a follower.
Rely on the whole. Be part of the whole. Avoid the one.
Johnathan Willis - January 26, 2012
Post updated with twitter conversation between Dana and Anonymous
Matthew Roth - January 26, 2012
Nice.
Huh, that “Storyify” technology is some slick shit. Does it resize to fit any column width automatically, or require custom HTML coding?
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
For an even bigger context
I think you should post the video of the interview Dana had with Ariel Helwani today. It’s kind of ridiculous how 20-20 it looks now, but Dana really shouldn’t have spurred them [Anonymous] on by constantly looking at the camera, calling them “cowards” and “terrorists”, and FUCKING CHALLENGING THEM TO MESS WITH HIM.
Literally.
I mean, wow.
D Squared - January 26, 2012
And then hat tip me because I'm awesome.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Did you know
Anonymous paiud a hacker $275 for a DDOS attack
IRodC - January 26, 2012
*paid
IRodC - January 26, 2012
A kingdom for a edit function.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
an*
pornflake - January 26, 2012
Hate it when it happens
Ruins the joke
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Tell me about it.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
If it’s any consolation, I still laughed out loud and actually snorted.
Jeffigatame - January 26, 2012
Dana lives by a foot massage place, I just realized that. Awkward.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Bizarrely owned by Vitor Belfort
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
....Not really.
Probably Quentin Tarantino.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
NOT EVEN THE SAME SPORT
pornflake - January 26, 2012
NOT EVEN THE SAME FUCKIN SPORT
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Ha!
pud333 - January 26, 2012
We know about Vitor
So it’s not bizarre at all
IRodC - January 26, 2012
You rec whore. I submit.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
I hope GSP's website gets hacked so we can literally say
GSP IS EXPOSED.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
When isn't he exposed, though?
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
When he's not in the presence of women
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
FEDOR IS EXPOSED!
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
:)
Adam Vance - January 26, 2012
I love the Internet but fuck even I know pissing hackers off is dumb
MaZZacare - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app
Now hackers going after his family
Drops - January 26, 2012
Damn
This is gonna get really bad.
TheFilt - January 26, 2012
I saw that. UGNazi says they're not involved with it, either.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Please
Drops - January 26, 2012
Twitter link?
mountaineers101 - January 26, 2012
It's the guy they mention in the article, Josh the God...
I’m not linking anything, I don’t want banned.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
This is getting really bad really quick
IRodC - January 26, 2012
It's Dana's fault
This is something that Americans, well actually middle-aged white guys in positions of power, fail to understand about the internet.
Dana White’s internet knowledge is to Anonymous’ internet knowledge, as Dan Hardy’s wrestling is to Chael Sonnen’s wrestling.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Yes
But going after his family is uncalled for. I don’t care what he called people on the internet
IRodC - January 26, 2012
I'm not saying that they're right in releasing family info
But he is a huge part of the problem when it comes to this debate.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
That's horrible
He’s a simple man, give him a break.
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
A simpleton, some might say.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
Poor Dana.
It’s like haviong a conversation with the devil over the internet. Shit is surreal, especially knowing that said devil knows everything about you that matters and can fuck you up in a whim.
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
After reading the conversation
I am baffled that people considered that cordial. Dana never said anything about them as a group, and he clearly stated that multiple times. They instigated him, without ever mentioning SOPA or PIPA, and then just put out his personal information. I understand their cause, but honestly Dana didn’t seem to be in the wrong on this. Were there any other tweets related to this?
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Daring people to hack your site again is blatant instigation
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
It's not about who's right and wrong
It’s about Dana knowing that he should pick his battles.
IRodC - January 26, 2012
I'm just saying
This doesn’t loom like a battle at all. I don’t really understand twitter, was there anything accompanying this?
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
look*
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Did you see the interview from earlier today I posted?
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Just saw it
It’s just a mess. I can’t really say anonymous was right in what they did, but Dana really should know better.
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Link just below this from Zakkree
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Was this posted here earlier?
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Jesus Christ Dana
I have ZERO sympathy for you.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Yeah, that's why I'm confused about people taking Dana's side.
He fucking asked for it. Actually, he kind of demanded it.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
"Im rite here!"
Unabomberman - January 26, 2012
goddamnit,
that was a stupid fucking move. he’s still gonna puff out his chest after this? jesus. is he at any point considering that some of his own CUSTOMERS could have their information compromised?
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
I honestly don't think he even fathoms that possibility.
Dude seems pretty ignorant of technology.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
weird how so many people in positions of power [politicians, supreme court justices] share that trait.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
Generation gap.
Even young people like me who went to school for computer-related education have to constantly learn about new advancements or even they will be obsolete in their knowledge.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
true enough, but you’d think that someone that works with social media the way he does and is surrounded by a culture that is not just immersed in technology but a part of it would know a little better than to taunt an army of hackers.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
He needs an agent around at all times to stop him from acting on impulse.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Forget an agent.
Dana White needs a fucking personal speaker.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
Well
That changes things. Releasing his info is still uncalled for, IMO
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I wonder if any idiots are actually going to try to use his social security number for something.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
That's almost a guarantee
Rich dude, public info.
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I know absolutely nothing of the logistics of that, but I’d think Dana could immediately report it and it would be red-flagged where people who tried to use it at the very least couldn’t, or even better, get prosecuted for it.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
I feel like it would be a very poor choice to try to use that
joker24 - January 26, 2012
Well yeah
But I’m sure some dipshit will see it and take it
halitosis - January 26, 2012 via mobile
He supports SOPA and Anon was confronting him on it.
Rob Young - January 26, 2012
wait, wait, wait… he still has a Myspace account?
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
What a loser!
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
dont call someone a loser
banned
~Peregrine - January 26, 2012
I can't wait for this to be on TV
I want to see what people like Jon Stewart is going to say.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
This is a massive story
Or it’s developing into one, this is a prominent President of the premier combat sports organization, and he’s getting all of his personal information released like nothing.
And he’s treating this like a 10 year old boy.
It should be nationally broadcast. This is the kind of thing that people should see when it comes to the idea that you can just stop piracy and censor the internet as you please.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Yes, but it also makes anon look like a bunch of bullies
IRodC - January 26, 2012
You know what? It's kinda good.
Dana White has spent YEARS bullying other promotions, bullying the media, revoking credentials, calling women journalists faggots and bitches, and for once, albeit at a virtual level, he’s being bullied back. He’s actually getting heavy repercussions for his repeated knee-jerk and childish remarks on serious issues.
I don’t necessarily think Anon or UGNazi should release family info, but he’s actually experiencing a return fire for a change.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
They bully bullies. It's okay.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
They also bully 12 year old girls
And dead people’s families.
Farthammer - January 26, 2012
Huh?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
elaborate please.
ClinchKing - January 26, 2012 via Android app
Seriously isn't this News of the World hacking?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I think you're confusing Anonymous
with those 4chan guys. I could be wrong though.
D Squared - January 26, 2012
Interchangeable in most cases
Anonymous posts on 4Chan – 4Channers claim to be a part of Anonymous. In any event, I refer to Jessie Slaughter’s case.
Farthammer - January 26, 2012
If David Stern or Roger Goodells info was published?
It would be a HUGE story. We can gauge how “Main stream” the UFC is by how much coverage this gets.
ScoreCardOTN - January 26, 2012
I picked the wrong time to take a shower.
Sugel Mendoza - January 26, 2012
Pfft showers are for squares
like pants
IRodC - January 26, 2012
.
Cory Braiterman - January 26, 2012
And so the great coming at the bro of our time started.
pornflake - January 26, 2012
.
Balrog - January 26, 2012
Poor Joe Stevenson…
Brad Ackerson - January 26, 2012
pud333 - January 26, 2012
This is why Dana supports SOPA
so people would stop making fun of him using his pictures/videos.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
I wonder if dana made a call to Harry Reid tonight?
Drops - January 26, 2012
Anonymous vs. Dana White Visual Aid
IRodC - January 26, 2012
i’d love to see what it will take for the gif of Dave fucking a volcano to pop up.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
You post is confusing
Because of the way you’ve positioned your title, and also cause the guy uppercutting the godzilla is bald (and kind of white).
3.7 internet teardrops out of 11.
D Squared - January 26, 2012
LOL @ kind of white.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Sorry. I'm looking at the puppy bowl starting lineups.
Very distracted
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Dog person? Go to Mania!
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
His house is now worth 1/4 of what he paid for it
lol.
av1o3 - January 26, 2012
How serious is a
federal tax lien
smreece - January 26, 2012
keep an eye on the ufc site.
i predict massive ddos’ing in the very near future. opUFC
Johnathan Willis - January 26, 2012
They put his F@#%$%^
Social # out there. THAT IS DIRTY.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
Gonna stick up for Dana White here...
The way Anonymous and the SOPA hackers are going on about this are entirely wrong. They are like criminals and low lifes for doing crap like this.
Now I support everything anti-SOPA and PIPA. However Dana is just a man looking out for his business and trying to do everything to advance it. That’s respectable. But I along with most people her would disagree with SOPA being the best way to stop online piracy. But who cares? He’s just a businessman. Go after the REAL ISSUES and the REAL CAUSES of the problems.
These guys are internet losers. Go after the CIA and DoD for doing illegal activities in Iraq. That is commendable for exposing liars in our government who have committed crimes that have killed innocent lives.
goodbadugly16 - January 26, 2012
It's going after big businesses
Exposing liars in government was WikiLeaks and boy did we try and shut them up quickly, didn’t they?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I would
retract your mention of 3 letter acronyms as it pertains to promoting illegal activity against them. FYI.
younggunzvt - January 26, 2012
i don’t see how mentioning the CIA or DoD is going to lead to promoting illegal activity against them. all i want is for the truth to come out in that regard, so the public can know, but that’s a different issue.
goodbadugly16 - January 26, 2012
you don't understand what he is saying do you?
Andy Anderson - January 26, 2012
that i am a threat?
c’mon son
goodbadugly16 - January 26, 2012
I don't either.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Pretty much everyone sane here agrees
that no one involved in this equation acted in a morally justifiable way or, god forbid, like adults.
This whole saga will be a human-interest preface in some university lectures down the line about internet piracy and how you SHOULDN’T go about dealing with it in this way.
D Squared - January 26, 2012
Supporting SOPA does not support UFC interests.
It would take down a lot of sites that give them tons of free exposure and support, including mixedmartialarts.com, sherdog.net, every MMA blog on SBNation, most youtube content about MMA including every fan made highlight video (with or without UFC footage). Here’s my (slightly drunk) stab at PR for them.
Any hackers have a problem with that position?
pdl - January 26, 2012
It’s definitely better PR than Dana saying “Come at me bro” to the interwebs. Worst idea ever, just wait for the black faxes, autodials, DDOS’ing, attacks on the storefront, hundred pizza orders, etc etc etc….
Patrick Tenney - January 26, 2012
Patrick Tenney - January 26, 2012
Dig it.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Okay, this is funny
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Dana's phone is still busy.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
Are you a telemarketer?
IRodC - January 26, 2012
No I'm a Taurus.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
No, i'm straight.
That means I like women.
Sugel Mendoza - January 26, 2012
i used to be a telemarketer [true]. but then i took an arrow to the knee.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
How would that limit your ability as a telemarketer?
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
Telemarketing Archery services?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
we needed to breakdance to get permission to sell. think of it as a strip club ‘tax’ for the dancers to actually be there and dance.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
Probably took the phone off the hook.
Ubernoober - January 26, 2012
It's on paste bin... Why doesn't dw & co. Just report abuse to the website and have that personal shit removed ?
RECE ROCK - January 26, 2012 via mobile
He’s having trouble using his phone at the moment
Art_Wanderlei - January 26, 2012
That's FOR INTERNET COWARDS
RAAAAAAAWWWWWWR
IRodC - January 26, 2012
PasteBin doesn’t work that way.
Patrick Tenney - January 26, 2012
The cat is out of the bag on that one, that wouldn't do anything
joker24 - January 26, 2012
This is the guy who doesn't consider Twitter part of the Internet.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
That was foolish. Should not have kicked the beehive, Dana.
Ubernoober - January 26, 2012
In other news,
I beat AS on ultimate mode on UFC demo :)
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
You had John Jones
He’s like reverse Oddjob
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Fuckin Goldeneye reference, awesome. You’re my favorite commenter of the day.
Patrick Tenney - January 26, 2012
Dude subbevil is on
Did he make his picks?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
He made a fanshot too
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
And no
He did not.
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
yeah. 0%
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
Get on his ass, captain.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
i have no information on him…email, etc
Maybe i should ask my Anonymous friend
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
btw guys
iirc Gagnon vs. Bedford is off
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Yup
wonderfulspam - January 26, 2012
damn, wanted to see bedford again!!!
gspmademegay - January 26, 2012
When reading alot of what Dana says, I often wonder if he actually listened to the lyrics of his beloved Rage Against the Machine, or if he just thought their rebellion involves drinking and saying fuck alot.
KTKraft - January 26, 2012
I know, he doesn't exactly follow their example.
RolloTomasi - January 26, 2012
You think he'll break up the UFC because of money?
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Anyone think they're going to hack UFC.tv on Saturday night?
This weekend just got a whole lot more interesting.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Oh, shit.
Just imagine if the TV broadcasts got hacked at the last minute. Of course, that would take some kind of weird “Live Free or Die Hard”-level hacking power.
McKinley B. Noble - January 26, 2012
/hits CTRL+5 and ENTER
//Buildings explode
Farthammer - January 26, 2012
That would damage the UFC's brand so badly.
It would lose all of it’s growth because then people would know why they has been hacked for days.
To really hack us, interrupt the broadcast to show us a Tyron Woodley fight.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Rec'd even as a Mizzou alum
joker24 - January 26, 2012
the most disturbing thing about this conversation thread is that he seems to only care about the online piracy aspect is if it were burning a hole in his profits. not that it’s right, and i understand that it hurts his business – but he seems oblivious the the fact that SOPA and PIPA have horrible consequences for everyone else.
Victor Rodriguez - January 26, 2012
This is true.
But he is in the fight business not in the freedom business. It’s not his deal
IRodC - January 26, 2012
aw fuck they better not DDOS ufc.tv on fight night
gotta formulate a contingency plan or something
Pyrgz Krum - January 26, 2012
This is why Anonymous isn't held in particularly high regard
They attack a legit business using these illegal methods and then have the audacity to suggest that they have the moral high ground over the person they just victimized. Dana just wants to protect and control the distribution of their own product. These dipshits think they have moral authority to attack those who hold a different concept of property rights than they do. Fucking d’heads
Hardy's in your face - January 26, 2012
read SOPA/PIPA/ACTA. they have every right to be fucking pissed at the government
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
and its supporters of the bills
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
But not the right to go at White's personal info
IRodC - January 26, 2012
he faults his "come at me bro" i aint scurrred
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
the internet should throw the book @
DW for saying such asinine shit
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
Well that's true.
I don’t necessarily like that they get people’s info just like that, then again I understand it’s a power struggle
IRodC - January 26, 2012
You didn't read a word of the SOPA act, did you?
There is nothing the UFC, Zuffa, NFL, MLB, CNN, etc. want to do beyond just “controlling their product”. They want a total monopoly over their own content with no outside sources, so that they have carte blanche to charge whatever they feel like and shut down any site that uses their branding.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
ty SS,
Im glad i got you on BE CW, regardless of the outcome atleast you use common sense and look into things before commenting
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
Thanks....and I do lead the team in scoring
Although I have an inkling I’ll be bad this weekend. Lots of evenly matched fights.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
thats my thinking too. its coin flip
Sonnen fight is pretty straight forward in my eyes
Wiedman could do enough to just maintain top control(this scares me)
I could see davis getting top control then again Rashad could just land one over hand right.
Then the Johnson/Roller im bleh on. Roller could get slept but he could also wrestlefuck M.J into a sub.
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
Roller's striking is so bad that he's Ben Henderson's only TKO victory.
But his wrestling should be enough to flush MJ out of the UFC.
Swanson/Roop is the hot bout and I’ve got Roop by destruction.
This isn’t a card though that looks like it’s filled with KO potential. Lots of subs and decisions I think.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
But Roller did take years of tavares' lifespan with one punch
IRodC - January 26, 2012
True that
And the thing is he was setting it up the entire time and Tavares wouldn’t move out of the way.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
look @ Tavares hands when he throws the punch. theyre @ he knees
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
inthepipes - January 26, 2012
I still remember the sound that punch made
IRodC - January 26, 2012
What a great way to go about doing things for Anonymous. Go on and on about being freedom fighters of the digital age and succumbing to such silly antics. Well done.
The One Who Wears The Crown - January 26, 2012
..Or maybe they're showing how easy it is for them to access confidential information?
And that SOPA supporters and the prominent people who back them don’t know shit about the internet and how their solution will never ever work?
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
Nah man, they're just terrorists who want to steal Dana's money.
Zachary Kater - January 26, 2012
And this is the only way they could get their point across?
The One Who Wears The Crown - January 26, 2012
No, but it's one.
You can’t propose a bill to effectively damage the free internet as we know it and not expect hackers to make it seem like child’s play.
Pdl said it in another thread, but the government’s technology to develop something like what’s in SOPA would be way behind every single useful pirate or hacker. There’s one example right there. He challenges hackers to hack UFC.com, he gets his SS number on Twitter within hours.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
I agree look at what they did by just releasing some infomation...
Newblood - January 26, 2012
He says the stuff anonymous does is terrorism
Dana you just got TERRORIZED
IRodC - January 26, 2012
A Beast Wars and Goldeneye reference in one night, me and you are friends now.
Patrick Tenney - January 26, 2012
BEAST WARS
sun yue - January 26, 2012
Im really diggin this move by the UFC towards more ‘live and free’ fights, especially when we get stompings like this
KTKraft - January 26, 2012
Danas the Freedom Fighter we better watch out...
Taupeeh Fred
@
@danawhite @YourAnonNews you do get the attacks where because the government is trying to suppress free speach right?
2 hours ago
in reply to ↑
@danawhite
Dana White
@Taupeeh @youranonnews I am the fucking king of free speech
1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone
Newblood - January 26, 2012
"I am the fucking king of free speech" says Dana White
…The same person who cut Miguel Torres for a rape joke.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
How high is he?
What would make him say that?
TheFilt - January 26, 2012
Well....
Antonio McKee has just been cut from MFC for missing weight and will be gone after tomorrow’s fight.
SSreporters - January 26, 2012
RACISM
IRodC - January 26, 2012
Here's why I don't feel bad at all for Dana
Anonymous is like a lion on the savanna. If you stay away from it, or at least in your vehicle, it won’t bother you. If you get out, poke it with a stick and yell “DON’T STEAL MY SHIT,” you will get mauled. Its not about right or wrong in this situation. Its about knowing when to back down and not pick a fight just because you can.
Also, if there is one thing anon can get behind, its ruining people who are bullies. The people bringing down websites and stealing info weren’t the captains of their football teams and any excuse to get back at the sort of people who made their lives miserable is more than enough for them.
bla10cow - January 26, 2012
Dana just got sooooo owned.
And i love it.
Chin Check - January 26, 2012
Are we aloud to talk about his criminal record?
TheLastEmpress - January 26, 2012
Let's not
Just so everyone stays out of trouble
IRodC - January 26, 2012
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