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It's Showtime Live Discussion Thread: Badr Hari Vs. Gokhan Saki

Main event opponents Gokhan Saki and Badr Hari square off at yesterday's press conference. Photo via It's Showtime.

Main event opponents Gokhan Saki and Badr Hari square off at yesterday's press conference. Photo via It's Showtime.

Today, the 2012 kickboxing season gets underway with a stacked card from It's Showtime, headlined by the retirement fight of Badr Hari as he faces Gokhan Saki. Join us here at Bloody Elbow this afternoon to discuss the show as it goes down. Here's how to watch:

HDNet - For fans with HDNet, the show airs live today starting at 3:00 p.m. ET / 12:00 p.m. PT. Note that HDNet is only showing the main card today. The prelims (which includes Tyrone Spong vs. Melvin Manhoef) will air on February 3.

Fight Network - Fans in Canada can see the entire card live on Fight Network, starting at 12:00 p.m. ET / 9:00 a.m. PT.

Online - It's Showtime will be streaming the entire card at www.showtimefights.com. Again, this starts at 12:00 p.m. ET / 9:00 a.m. PT. The stream costs 10 Euro, or about $13 US.

As I said above, the big feature bout is the retirement from kickboxing of Badr Hari, which we covered earlier this week. He takes on the tough Gokhan Saki in what is the best Heavyweight fight kickboxing has seen since the 2010 K-1 Grand Prix.

Other highlights of the main card include Hesdy Gerges vs. Daniel Ghita, Murat Direkci vs. Robin van Roosmalen, and Errol Zimmerman vs. Rico Verhoeven. The undercard is also loaded, with Tyrone Spong vs. Melvin Manhoef, and L'houcine Ouzgni vs. Yohan Lidon as the highlights. Check out the full card here.

Hope you will be watching, and joining the conversation here at Bloody Elbow.

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such a fantastic card.

sponge on the undercard says it all. i love saki, he’s by far my favorite kickboxer. i think he beats overeem in the grand prix had it not been for the broken arm.

Saki is the best kickoboxer right now

Albeit not his fault, Ubberroid had broken men served to him on a dish in the grand prix

It tells you exactly how good this card is when Sprong is on the undercard!!

This should be an amazing night of kickboxing action.

I'll probably be around to remind everybody how little they know about everything.

Yes.

Anybody streamed it's showtime before?

I"m considering ordering and before dropping the euros I’d like to know about the quality.

The actual quality of the video is great most of the time.

There are some issues now and then with buffering – some events, you’ll encounter it, while others you won’t. I would expect this event to be fine, given how important it is for the company.

I just payed for the stream and got a code sent in e-mail, so that works so far at least. 10 euros for all this greatness is an offer I couldn’t refuse. Should be a good one!

Has it started yet?

I'm gettinga multicolor screen and some strange world music.

I only hear music so far.. and a test screen image

Man, I love it's showtime but they always have some damn shitty music.

Haha.. I like it. Feels very dutch. (the intro + dancing)

I don't mind it. feels like part of the experience to me.

definitely very dutch.

Short on cash, so Im relying on you guys for play by play until the maincard starts lol

What an explosive performance!

Pretty impressive.

Aight boys, I’m here, but I have to go eat in ten, then I’ll be back.. Well shit, all day, this runs into UFC prelims. Good to be here.

Before she left, my girlfriend asked me to clean the bathroom.

Ain’t happening.

Definitely fair.

With a card like this, with guys like Manhoef and Ghita on prelims, I wouldn’t move unless I absolutely have to.

Just checked the card.

Why did I think it was Manhoef/Ghita, it’s Manhoef/Spong. Either way, the argument stands.

hahahahahaha

My girlfriend was up all night working, she asked me to wake her up when I got home. Shes still sleep.

Just play the fights extra loud, maybe she’ll wake up.

lol im wearing headphones and tip toeing around the apt.
For real

I was seriously considering bringing a piss jug to the couch. I’m digging in for the long haul.

Hahahaha brutal.

Kent, I’m not trying to be an elitist or asshole or anything, but are you a lurker usually? You already seem like you have legit combat sports knowledge, but I don’t remember ever seeing your name?

Yup

I read BE multiple times a day, but only log in once a month or so.

Cool man.

You should comment more often dude, I lurked for like.. Two years before I started commenting, and it’s frickin awesome when you comment a lot.

Yeah, I've been visiting for about three years, now.

I find it tough to login during the fights, though, as I’m usually entertaining a fair amount of people. I can do it today, because it’s pretty tough to find people who want to watch a European kickboxing card.

That being said, Badhr Hari — Lets mutherfuckers!

What's this fucking referee doing?
Hello ladies

Breaking my kickboxing cherry tonight

Better late than never! You chose a good event definitely.

actually scratch that. Watched K1 Grand Prix the day after last year but this is my first live event. I get the feeling from the commentary its been a classic so far

It's been pretty good so far.

Well, not as much as the commentators want you to believe, heh. Definitely good fights though

They're definitely a bit over excited. Still good though.
Definitely a great card to start.
Anyone giving Melvin a shot at winning this?

Not really.. he’s always dangerous of course, but I think his chin is shot, plus he’ll face the usual height and reach disadvantage. And Spong is really techically skilled of course

I agree with that assessment. Still should be a fun fight.

And I really wanna see Spong make the move to mma.

I'm a huge Melvin fan but I got Tyrone in this one.

I’d like Melvin to take it but I don’t think he does.

Looks like Ben Edwards and Tim Sylvia share the same dietician.

He reminds me of Mark Hunt

Maybe Ben will attempt a kimura and I'll lose my mind cheering in the process, as well.
fat guys gassing?

Boy we are spoiled

That last knee was comically slow.

struggling to literally lift your knee. LAWL

Anyone else not receive a code after paying?

I expected it to be more or less an instant thing, still haven’t been sent one.

I got mine within seconds of paying.

I like the name “Yohan Lidon”. It’s just funny to say

Hahaha seriously?

It’s a quite usual name here.

Well, most things are pleasant to say in french, very nice language that way. Plus the name Johan is quite common here, but is pronounced way different, so that contributes

I thought they were saying ‘le dong’

how come this is on the undercard

If its for a title?

Because the card is STACKED!

This.

They’re also not huge draws. even Spong Manhoef is on the undercard.

what way do the divisions work? Is it just 70kg max, 90kg max and HW?

Nor sure about all but the way I remember:

70kg
73kg
77kg
85kg
95kg
HW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_It%27s_Showtime_champions

Wasn't sure about 61 and 65 kg.
They're among the lesser divisions in It's Showtime...

Not necessarily in quality, but in available fights and promotional effort.

That said, It’s Showtime really needs to drop the kilogram measurements and assume more regular division names. Taking cues from professional boxing would, in that instance be a great idea – 61 is basically lightweight, 70 being super welterweight, etc.

They also are roughly equivalent to MMA weight divisions.

61 bantamweight
65 featherweight
70 lightweight
73
77 welterweight
85 middleweight
95 lightheavyweight
Heavyweight

Man, Lidon looks out of it
He had trouble making weight apparently.
Surprised he wasn't stripped of the belt

What champion misses weight?

Antonio McKee did last night.
He made weight eventually.
WAR SPONG!

Also, the squeaky color commentator is getting pretty obnoxious.

This is going to be crazy!
Melvin looks pumped
Off topic, but all Lorenzo's personal info was just leaked.
ugh

UFC just isn’t winning this fight

I saw Dana’s birth certificate earlier today

Dana done goofed.
I (somewhat) understand why they went afer Dana...

but why Mayhem?

Holy shit UFC.

Quit fighting them, you’ll lose every friggin time guys.

probably fake, like Dana's details were not real

Aight, I’m back guys.

just in time!
That's exactly what I was thinking as soon as I saw Manhoef.

It’s really too bad Manhoef has such a glass jaw, he’s awesome.

Dude is just badass!

Spong looks like more of a mass murderer than I remember.

Spong has put on more muscle

He doesn’t appear to be carrying as much fat as he did against Overeem.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Looks bigger and leaner.

You guys ever see that video of Melvin's kid kicking ass?
Anyone know what these two weighed in at?

Spong was 103.3 kg (about 228 pounds). Manhoef, oddly enough, did not weigh in. Because there’s not a upper limit at HW, it’s not required to weigh in at all, so he didn’t. Weird. Badr didn’t either. Perhaps it’s some strategic move from Mike’s Gym guys?

Okay, I was mostly wondering how big the weight difference was, Spong seems so much bigger than Melvin.

I’d give it to Spong. Melvin won’t win if he won’t open up more. He won’t win from outside, and he’s mostly been fighting from the outside.

He's taking shots better than I expected

Manhoef has remained pretty composed throughout this fight.

wtf is this commentator talking about?

Nice fight, should be an easy decision for Spong.

Yeah, would have liked to see Melvin a bit more aggressive though

Definitely agreed.
Yeah, 30-27 Spong pretty easily.

Good fight, but not the barn-burner I had hoped for from these two. Oh well.

I definitely expected fireworks.

It was a nice match, but not the type of match I expected.

Wasn't really surprised, I love him but the wars took a toll on Melvin. He still fought well being so outsized by Spong.
That's ok

Melvin fought really well and took some hard shots from Spong.

Aerts is the man.
Definitely, it's been great watching him.

It’s amazing he’s still competing at such a high level.

Incredible. I wasn't born when he had his first fight.

Yep, it’s sort of hard to fathom how long he’s been a top 10 Heavyweight. I mean, it’s the equivalent of Royce Gracie having competed for a UFC belt every single year since UFC 1. That’s insane.

Same.

He’s absolutely incredible.

You wonder about his health though.

Aerts has been in so many wars.

Definitely. I'm glad he's retiring for health's sake, but he'll be missed.

Aerts vs. Spong? Fantastic. That will be great.

What the hell is he talking about? Anyone?

For some reason, I just thought of Andy Hug. Anyone else miss him like crazy? He was absolutely incredible.

Yup, with Peter Aerts retiring it's finally the end of an era
It feels like Schilt is part of that era to me.

No way.. Aerts and Hug started out in K-1 mid nineties

I know.

That’s why I said that’s how it feels. I just always have connected Schilt to Aerts and Aerts to Hug, don’t know why.

Okay, gotcha. I’ve been re-watching all the first K-1 WGP’s lately so I don’t connect Schilt with them yet

Fair enough.

I haven’t seen the older ones, save for Hug’s fights. I just saw a HL of him a few years ago and fell in love with his style.

A great man, definitely

Man I miss Andy bad... I started my stand up training with Kyokushin karate so I've always been a big fan of his.

Hug is my favorite K-1 fighter of all time. His 1996 GP run is a thing of beauty.

And I know he's not retired yet but he's pretty much semi retired and getting into acting now, but I already miss Jérome Le Banner.

So stoked to join you guys at 3!

As you should be mountaineers.

Saki vs. Hari is going to be ridiculous, as well as Gerges vs. Ghita.

I might skip the card up until then.

I have a shit ton of reading that I have to write a paper on for Monday.

Did that montage of Hari's career set to Frank Sinatra make anyone else sad?

Have to admit, I welled up a bit when they showed him stomping Remy.

Sinatra could make a field of butterflies seem sad

Although, I admit, I love when a brutal sport is synced up with forlorn music (someone needs to make a Chuck Liddell montage set to Cohen’s A Singer Must Die).

Agreed about the sport/music.
For hockey fans

there’s a sweet Scott Stevens montage set to Pyramid Head (probably the only Radiohead I like). Bonecrushing hits and soft music just fits.

Whenever people tell me MMA is too brutal, I remind them the number of serious injuries in hockey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbWDTvuLBzI

Definitely a hockey fan, I'll check it later.
I'm a big fan of Akiyama's entrance to Andrea Bocelli.
Akiyama classes up the joint everywhere he goes

I just imagine him walking into a bordello and kneeling at the door while that songs plays.

Absolutely.

He usually uses time to say goodbye, right?

How hilarious and bittersweet

would it be for Hari to get KTFO? It seems like he’s trying to set up a ride-into-the-sunset image of himself, prodigal kickboxer, leaving the sport behind. If he swallows a whooping, it’ll seem more like he took a beating and then moved onto boxing (a strange move given his major strength seems to be knees, clinchwork and highkicks).

A great card. I haven’t seen a lot of those guys fight, but I’m psyched for the two main fights.

BADR HARI IS A BAAAAAD BOY!
Badr Badr Badr

Badr Badr Badr
Badr Badr Hari
Is a Bad Boy

THIS IS THE BEST SONG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjUlUPUqFsY

Oh, yeah

That’s the stuff.

How long before Sonnen hires some doofus rapper to write him a ‘Undisputed man of steel’ intro song?

fuck. My internet connection is crashing. I’m going to pop a blood vessel.

Stay calm.

Mine crashed right before JDS threw the overhand that won him the HW strap.

mine crashed 20 seconds into Fedor-Werdum

Going with Ghita, Zimmerman, Saki, and van Roosmalen.

Ghita, Zimmerman, van Roosmalen, and HARIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Saki fights a patient fight, definitely favors him. But if it turns into a brawl, of course you go with Hari.

Hari might be my favorite combat sports athlete.

He’s going to win. K? And then he’s going to go KO the Klitschko brothers at the same time.

People will flame me for this...

But I wish the UFC would adopt some of this pomp.

I don't mean the shitty KOL remix.
Pfff.

I agree the whole way.

probably will in time

give them some more time with fox

It'd give my girlfriend something to watch. She likes loud noises and sparkling things.
then you need to play death metal and light roman candles when these events come on

it’ll work

helps if you get her drunk first

Yeah, I’m not a fan at all of the UFC’s “run through the crowd almost getting mobbed” style entrance. Needs more flair and class

A little pyro would go a long way.
I liked SF.

Not too over the top, but a little flair and pizazz.

Did I hear a hubba hubba hubba? I fucking love today.

the announcer, you mean?

wtf this just happened on my stream

wayyy behind

Yeah, maybe I have an awesome stream. First fight is starting… Now.

just started for me
Wow, I have two minutes on you.
must you rub it in

meanie

LOOKIT MANS TUXEDO JACKET!
damn, its like they try to make ilegal streaming difficult or something...

all of the link i follow take me to some eastern euro chanel showing a subtitled derard butler film.

Anderson Silva-esque is Anderson Silva in his Anderson Silva-like striking, huh Joe?

Heavyweight kickboxers are super doughy.
Reminiscent of Mike Russow are the heavyweight kickboxers, Cabbage.

Where’s Tan Dan to murder these guys?

YES! THAT JUST HAPPENED!

These guys are assholes.

10-9 Silva last round btw.

Ok, it's barely past noon on the west coast but there are live fights on.

Beers are ok still, right?

You're pdl, do you have to ask?
Shit

Did I jump the gun on the Vodka?

Was it in an energy drink or some orange juice?

Because that’s fair game.

Doesn't matter.

Straight vodka tastes like shit anyways.

Vodka-Red Bull

So guess I’m good then.

Add a splash of triple sec next time.

How did Silva lose to that Bouzidi guy that fought earlier?

Uh, ref, you might want to, I don’t know, do something about guys throwing punches after the bell? Just saying.

He was still rocked!

Easy round for Silva, 20-17 for the knockdown.

kickboxing is scored differently than boxing/mma

it’ll be scored something like 2-0 or some shit.

Meh.

Anyways, if it goes to a decision, Silva already won.

Eh? It’s totally on the 10 point system.

Really? I've seen It's Showtime where they've scored the fights 3-0.
They scored the Lidon fight on the 10 points tonight.

But they sometimes just announce the number of judges foreach fighter.

Yeah, that means 3 judges gave it to the winner. They tend to not tell you the actual judge scorecards in It’s Showtime.

Coffee shops and windows!

Ken Shamrock head kick attempt!

Is there a 3 knockdown rule?
i was wondering this

silva didnt really go for the kill after the second kd in rd 2

I don't watch kickboxing that often.

So I’m not up on all the rules and whatnot.

it often does have that rule

but dunno about this event

Depends of the organization. I think It's showtime has one but I'm not positive.

Easy win for Silva.

Yeah, he looked real good.

Glad he gave that punk a beating, too. I hate sucker punchers.

Note to self

Everyone named Anderson Silva can fight.

And just like that, my first son has his name.

THATS NAMISM!!!!

Yeah but combining names doesn't work that much:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Wanderson-Silva-13585

Funny, he looks like a Nog

KENNY RICE IS A LIAR!!!!

This is a big problem. I still have to go to the Beer Store, but can't leave the TV .
Is there going to be time between Hari/Saki and UFC prelims?
Do you care about Chris Camozzi?
He's horrible.

I should skip that and get some food.

I think the prelims start at 4:30.
No
Dayumm.

I lucked out and fixed food during the intermission after Manhoef – Spong. So I am well fed now

That's smart.

I still have to grill up a steak and make some KD cause I’m all out of normal pasta.

I wish pizza places would deliver beer
Booze delivery.

Thats a million dollar idea my friend.

I'd like to patent it.
That shit is expensive. I don't make GSP money. I make Tim Hague money.
Great walkout song, hahaha.
Nice card !!!

Nice card!!! like im used of it,s showtime ….

Its a shame almost every city is banning the events overe here in holland
This wil probally be the last one on dutch soil..

Spong vs Manhoef was a nice fight it looks like spong is becoming more and more like his mentor mr.perfect hoost …Nice combination,s lowkick liverShot teep Punch ..
Knee lowkick teep Punch Priceless.(lol)

manhoef lookt alright to its seems like at the end of his carreer he got smarter
because he is fighting with a better defence and a better game-plan cus he was calm patient and powerfull…but spong did more and so Deserved this win ..
more combinations more of everything …

Boy o boy i cant wait for zimmerman saki badr and hesdey

WHY DOES SUPERMAN GOTTA BE BLACK! DOES HE TRAIN WITH THE BLACKZILLIANS! SO DUMB. UGH. RACISM.

This is delicious.

Liking this fight already.

Grigoryan is whoopin that ass
This isn't for Ngimbi's title?

Yeah apparently not. I was surprised by that as well

That's why I hate non- title fights for champions.

If they’re worth fighting, it’s worth putting up the belt.

Holy shit Nigimbi is getting his ass punched to shitt ..

He needs to step it up now

Ngimbi is getting Diaz'd

Nice boxing display from Grigoryan.

*Kickboxing display

I was impressed by his hands. I know what I’m watching, Elliot! Haha.

His punches were his main tool,

but Harut was throwing knees and low kicks as well. Use whatever terminology you want, but I think it’s more concise not to use the term “boxing” in a kickboxing, Muay Thai, or MMA context.

Oh I hope Zimmermann gets a ass whoopin

shit man they should not have stopt the chris fight it seemt like he was stepping his game up … but a cut is a cut ..

The cut looked pretty bad and he was getting pretty much handled.

I just changed my pick from JOE to Russow. Thoughts?

Funny, I just changed mine from Russow to JOE.

I think Russow is tremendously overrated. JOE is too long standing, and if he takes JOE down, he’ll get tapped.

Yeah, hmm. I hate Russow, but fuck..

Tight fight either way, though. It really could go either way.

Yeah, really tough one to pick.

I have Russow, not that confident about it. This fight istight.
@BASVanDERWOLK

Zimmerman is gonna CRUSH Verhoefen

Pass me the salt and pepper, my crow tastes awful

(lol) At least thats what i hope hahahahah

But rico is a smart fighter …

Yeah I’m going with Zimmerman in this one. He’s been looking good lately

@horselover

Yes its seems like he is taking everything a little more serouis now …

We were right! Also, try the reply button :) so you won’t have to write out our screen names.

shit sorry hahah my mistake ..

And yes we where right haha did not espect it so fast do

No problem!

Yeah, me neither. But they do have that massive power of course

Holy shit! that was brutal!
That's what I'm paying to see.
Alright, alright, alriiiiiiiiiiiyyyight!!
Wow, Zimmerman dominated
Hesdy and then BADR HARI!
Nevermind...forgot about Van Rousmalen

Zimmerman is packing HEAT!

Masato is kind of an awkward commentator

I’m sorry dude, but who the fuck is Art Mann?

That's what I want to know.

Everyone seems so happy to see him.

He used to be the host of Wild On.

The show that traveled around to all the various locales in the world where girls with low self esteem congregated to get drunk and show their breasts off.

Never saw that.
It was a staple in my Friday night television viewing schedule when I was 13.

Haha (lol) zimmerman at the end Je moet geen kind sturen om een man ze werk te doen !!! TRANSLATION DONT SEND A KID TO DO A MAN,S JOB

If Rico’s a kid then Zimmerman should shut his mouth and don’t brag about whoopin’ a kid’s ass

maybe kid need to stop acting like a man …..

No i just translated what he said i like both fighters but Rico did not have anything to say in this fight

Banging entrance music!

Kickboxing in Holland seems like an expensive hobby to watch.

Why do you think so?

Well, just looking at the lower crowd. Maybe it is just one of those things you do on occasion and put on your finest clothes for it.

Yeah, it's like a dinner show

The (lower crowd) youe man by the lttle table,s (lol)

Thats the VIP seats hahahah

Those are expensive yes, VIP tables.. not a fan of that set-up

But most people are in the normal stands of course

It’s not that expensive, normally tickets will put you back somewhere between €25-€50 ( 30-60USD) and a couple of beers will make it somewhere around €60-100,-. Pretty reasonable when you compare it to an UFC-event.

Roosmalen is being stifled

And Direcki just got stiffed, no fucking way he lost that fight.

Yeah, I agree.

I had it as a tie. Direcki was winning the 3’rd round, until Roosmalen combo’d on him after they checked Direcki’s cut in the last minute. But I don’t think that was enough to win the round… should’ve been a tie.

I don’t think it was a complete robbery though.

Robin moved forward but Murat scored way more – it doesn’t matter that he does so backpaddlin’.

Besides that I think I saw most of Robins powerpunches land on Murat’s cover, but that might be the lousy feed that I have. Anyway, this should have been declared a draw at minimum.

Questionable decision, not a full on robbery though.

There’s a time for reason and there’s a time for beer-fuelled-anger, this is a time for the latter.

Hahaha, fair enough.
I agree, Direcki landed a better volume and controlled the action for most of the fight.

The biggest events of the fight were Roosmalen’s, though… those flurries were just so crisp and fast

Roosmalen 10-9

19-19 overall

Eh, I thought it should have been an extra round.

Agreed.

I was surprised Roosmalen won… I thought he tied up the 3’rd round in the last minute, but that should’ve gone to an extension round

I would have picked Roosmalen because of his flurries and harder shots in the third, but would have been more in favor of the extension if you pressed me.

I acknowledge that argument's validity,

but I definitely saw the 3’rd round as a 10-10

Prepare for a new heavyweight champion!

Has Manhoef/ Spong happened on the broadcast yet?

Yeah, was on the prelims.

I hope I can find the vid somewhere after the Hari fight.
It was good. It just wasn't what I was expecting.
Yeah it was on the prelims.

It was on the undercard if I’m not wrong.

BOOOO ANTHEMS!!!

Ghita looks to be on some Overeem diet.

Gerges is in a state of perpetually pissed off-ness
DAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNN
GO TO FUCKING SLEEP!
That was awesome.

My shit crashed right before the knockout. I fucking knew it. Fucking Honda internet.

I’m a little behind but DAYUM both guys look in incredible shape. Esp. Ghita

owwwww shit that was brutal !!!!!

i was rooting for hesdey but ghita punched his lights out bammmm!!

Nice!! Beautiful left hook!

BEAUTIFUL left hook.

Just so sexy.

“Hello, UPC here, you tryin to watch Gerges vs Ghita? Tryin to have a good time huh? Well we can’t have that now can we? So we’ll let your server crash just long enough so you’ll miss the KO, how about that…you bitch!”

Very happy for Ghita! One of my favorite HW’s, great win

Big Ghita fan as well. One of my favorites to watch.

Ghita has an UFC-legend on his side…

SO PUMPED for this rematch.
Who else is pulling for Gokhan?

Turkish Fedor all day every day!

I love both guys. Don't care, just want a good fight.

Definitely on the Gokhan bus!

Fuck that. WAR BADR!

Make room on that bandwagon for me, sir. I hope for a good fight though. Saki should win if he uses leg kicks and patience.

Telling Gokhan Saki to fight with patience

is like telling a honey badger to give a shit

I also love that this is going to end just on time to catch the prelims. We go from this…to Lavar Johnson vs. Joey Beltran. Such a drastic change, but still so awesome.

You can only wish Beltran or Lavar could throw a hook half as beautiful as Ghita.

I will enjoy the windmills.

this fight can go both ways badr has a size advantge

but saki is saki and he is able to beat every one if he gets the chance

Noooo! Not like this!

Not watching, what happened?

Badr Hari did a hadouken.

more like Sho-ryu-ken. Those were super uppercuts

Hari knocked Saki down thrice in the 1'st round
Awesome.
I'm so mad at him for leaving kickboxing.

I don’t hate boxing, but kickboxing is so much better to watch IMO

And as much as I like Badr…he’s not going to be an elite boxer.

Idk, he could be in a few years.

Dude is big and very athletic. Plus, if you saw his hands just now, you wouldn’t be so dubious. It’s just a shame, because Hari also has great kicks & knees, and won’t be able to use them in boxing.

Or he might just decide to use them in the odd match or three.

Maybe but I don't really buy it. I'd like to be wrong but boxing is a different sport.

He’s got pretty shitty defenses when it comes to boxing. That’s my biggest concern.

His defense is the problem to me too.
He also doesn't have much of a shot at much in boxing.
Hari TKO's Saki in the first.
NOOOOO!!!!!

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Oh well. PRELIMS time. Fucking impressive by Hari.

what channel are prelims on?

By the way….Hari is not winning a boxing heavyweight title, you assclown announcer. Good lord.

That was ridiculous.

Yep no disrespect to saki but badr is just to strong for saki
those uppercuts where to mutch for saki ….

You never know with saki …But like against remy overeem and other more bigger hw he just comes to shot in size and power…

But like i said you never know ..but it was cklear badr is way more powerfull

Commentator needs to zip it

Even Davis Haye will blast Hari. Boxing is a different game

At this point, yes.

But Hari is still pretty young, and with the right trainers and upbringing, Badr could be an elite heavyweight boxer in a few years.

he's def exciting.

It will be a journey…considering all the politics in Boxing. But I wish him the best.

THe commentator is just annoyingly hyping the man before he’s even began his journey.

Good event, well worth the price. Happy to see Ghita and Hari win, but also sad to see Badr go away.

Now THAT was a show!

Craziest kickboxing card we’ve had since the 2010 K-1 GP.

Yeah, it really was a solid lineup.

It’s Showtime is really taking the reigns as the top dog in kickboxing.

Farewell to the Golden Boy

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