Photo via Esther Lin, MMAFighting.com
According to the Las Vegas Review Journal UFC superstar Alistair Overeem has been charged with misdemeanor battery stemming from an altercation at Wynn Las Vegas over New Year's weekend. That would have been the period of time when Overeem was in town for his fight with Brock Lesnar at UFC 141. Overeem won that fight by first round TKO.
It appears that Overeem shoved a woman in the face and, while not arrested, was given a citation. He is scheduled to appear in court on February 21 and faces up to six months in a detention center and a $1,000 fine.
The UFC has not yet commented on the situation and I don't expect them to until after the court date passes and we see exactly what comes out of it.
I seriously doubt he gets 6 months and I don't have the knowledge to really understand how Overeem's nationality affects things.
I will say that, while I'm sure there's more to the story, I'd like to think that there is a way for a 6'5" 260+ pound professional fighter to handle a situation involving a woman that doesn't involve shoving or hitting. So, hopefully this turns out to be nothing.
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I call BS
Im betting the club was cramped, the girl was drunk and the situation was no way near as serious
Silvio Dante - January 31, 2012
No where near as serious as a misdemeanor citation? That is almost as non-serious as it gets
schm1583 - January 31, 2012
Oh shit son!
RandyCouture'sDivorceLawyer - January 31, 2012 via mobile
He was just tired of that creepy Rampage fan who kept sending his Asian girlfriend over to Alistair.
sexysassytravismmafan - January 31, 2012
+1
jthin - January 31, 2012
Wow, classy.
And to think I gave Sonnen shit for the fraud case, at least he never hit a girl.
MBTitleist - January 31, 2012 via mobile
shove =/= hit
sexysassytravismmafan - January 31, 2012
how you know sonnen didnt hit women before
i thought herman cain was just bad at making pizza until u know…
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
Well 1 has been charged with assaulting a woman, one has not. You can figure out the rest.
MBTitleist - January 31, 2012 via mobile
damn i was being so not serious chill out dont run me over with your righteous wagon just hit alistair and the cops will never know trust me i like cam’ron and i live by snitches get stitches
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
Not to mention, Chael Sonnen killed 5 hookers in the mid 90’s.
MicahtheCynic - January 31, 2012
god damn it micah i was just thinking this but i didnt wanna say it. 5 though like really? you couldnt just be cool and kill maybe 2 and then let the other 3 be your charles manson female gang chael? i read way too much stuff on wiki to have said that
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
Naw it was 5……….ALLEGEDLY
Krimson - January 31, 2012
right allegedly damn it ah those words really come in handy. do you think chael knows about that joke that we think he allegedly killed 5 hookers in the mid 90’s and just asking why the mid 90’s like damn shit was really bad back then huh ?
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
Curious...
Where did that joke originate? I have seen it around a fair bit and I am wondering about its origins.
Harley - January 31, 2012
One person alleged that Chael killed 3 hookers in the mid 90’s, while another person alleged that Chael killed 2 other hookers. 2 + 3 = 5 hookers killed by Sonnen.
MS_Dos_Santos - January 31, 2012
It's a rip off of the "Craig James killed five hookers while at SMU" google bomb
joker24 - January 31, 2012
CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS WHILE AT SMU?!
Must find IMMEDIATELY!
Krimson - January 31, 2012
It's recycled as hell
People also said it about Glenn Beck. At least then there was some vague point about him previously saying “Well if it isn’t true, why isn’t he denying it?”. Don’t think that much thought went into plugging Chael’s name in though, certainly wasn’t funny the first dozen times.
WheelieMonkey - January 31, 2012
read your post in this guy's voice......ALLEGEDLY
dgonz - January 31, 2012
Always
Krimson - January 31, 2012
/Crumples paper
/pauses for 8 seconds
/makes same point 15 times
Farthammer - January 31, 2012
allegedly. Lets not get ahead of ourselves...
Dootch - January 31, 2012
none of us really know if Sonnen murdered five hookers back in 1994.
none of us.
so don’t judge.
Victor Rodriguez - January 31, 2012
oh.
kept scrolling down and found that 50 other people had posted the same thing. oh well.
Victor Rodriguez - January 31, 2012
Dont even give the story an hour or so to air out eh?
It’s gots to be true!
jthin - January 31, 2012
We all know Overeem is a chill dude and a consumate professional
I very much doubt he overreacted, she must have been going off. Seriously, he was there with his girl and everything, I doubt she’d like him shoving chicks around much
WanderChe - January 31, 2012
well, he's from amsterdam
where a certain group of eastern european females are treated like meat.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
Go and shove a prostitute, see what happens.
Vonk - January 31, 2012
you have to break the glass first
mollcutpurse - January 31, 2012
You have reached a new level in stupidity
You know we Dutchies all smoke pot while watching kiddie porn, right?
Jeez.
Bones_nl - January 31, 2012
while eating vla
mollcutpurse - January 31, 2012
calm down.
i wasn’t being entirely serious.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
Ok, I overreacted
I ate too much vla…
Bones_nl - February 1, 2012
Amsterdam is not in Eastern Europe. It’s on the fucking coast, for Christ’s sake. That’s like saying LA is in the Midwest.
Redconsensus - January 31, 2012
He's not talking about dutch women here...
His post was obviously still stupid.
Magaca - January 31, 2012
i feel like i'm getting lessons from a sock monkey.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
I didn't know Amsterdam was the only place in the world with prostitutes.
Sweet Scientist - January 31, 2012
it certainly isn't.
but is one of the epicenters for human trafficking.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
Not like the States
No human trafficking going down here!
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
look up the definition of "epicenter."
then get back to me.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
Ah
So you’re both naive and a prick?
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
and you still didn't look up epicenter.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
http://www.justmeans.com/Amsterdam-Travel-Sex-Tourism-Human-Trafficking/27438.html
http://www.humantrafficking.org/countries/united_states_of_america
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
i think you may have just proven my point.
human trafficking exists in the u.s. no one disputes that.
proportionally, though, places like amsterdam, somalia, and calcutta surpass it by far.
there are less than 3,000,000 people in the amsterdam metro. there are almost 313,000,000 people in the u.s.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
In your mind....
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
yes.
if my mind and the census are the same thing.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
You're really really
really reaching.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
So you believe that Amsterdam is an 'epicenter'
of human trafficking, even though it has less than 10,000 victims annually?
I suggest you take your own advice and look up ‘epicenter’. Tell me if you see the words ‘per capita’ anywhere in there.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
i'm tired of this.
you’re right, proportion doesn’t tell us anything. have a nice day.
dr. ransom - January 31, 2012
TheFit wins
George75 - January 31, 2012
not like horse meat I hope
AndersonSilvaMoney - January 31, 2012
I wish Prostitution was legal
Instead of spending a bunch of money taking a girl out and pretending there is any sort of potential for a relationship, why not just spend the money on a “sensual provider” and just get the business done?
discoandherpes - January 31, 2012
If she only staggered back, then he barely touched her.
sexysassytravismmafan - January 31, 2012
excellent point
if he’s tried she’d have gone through the wall
Cunny - January 31, 2012
and she was probably drunk at that
sexysassytravismmafan - January 31, 2012
right at 3 a.m like come on no one at the club who is still there by 3 a.m is sober
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
Except employees...
Who may have witnessed it.
ANance - January 31, 2012 via mobile
hey he only threated to hit her with his ring hand and it spiraled out of control from there.
dandeman - January 31, 2012
Mayweather has been accused of worse
And he’s still running around
Pandanus - January 31, 2012
…for a few more months, before he goes to jail.
Brent Brookhouse - January 31, 2012
he got that fight though and thats all that matters brent the money BRENT!
“Oooo yeah that justice system burns nigga dont it ooo yea take that california” i wish i had more david chappelle court gifs
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
"You better wrap that shit up!"
Sugel Mendoza - January 31, 2012
ThatsHowIRoll - January 31, 2012
Immigration consequences
Misdemeanor battery is a “crime involving moral turpitude” under immigration law, even if he receives no time, and even if it’s just a misdemeanor, as long as it requires an intent to inflict bodily harm, and not just an intent to touch or recklessly inflict bodily harm. I’m not familiar with Nevada (or in this case, probably Las Vegas) law, but a quick read of the statute looks like it requires intent.
There is something called the petty offense exception under immigration law, where as long as the maximum possible sentence is one year or less, and Reem actually gets less than 6 months, it won’t prevent him from entering the U.S., at least in theory. However, U.S. consulates have basically unfettered discretion in issuing visas, and I’m guessing Reem has what’s called a P1A performers visa, so if they want to use it to deny a visa, they could.
That being said, this sounds like a stupid case, and as long is it’s a 1st offense, no way does Reem actually plead guilty to the charge. His mega-priced attorney will surely get the charge lowered or dropped, in which case, no problem.
galathrax - January 31, 2012
wow…thanks for the info
Brent Brookhouse - January 31, 2012
It’s been a while since immigration law, but that sounds about right. Also, while journalists love to throw around the theoretical maximum penalty for any given crime, more than likely this is a $100 disturbing the peace ticket and is nothing to worry about.
toxic - January 31, 2012
Did a little more research...
Procrastinating, anyone?
Nevada battery is actually not a moral turpitude crime. Force includes a broad array of conduct, not all of which is violent. So no problem.
But as toxic says, no way does he actually plea to this or get convicted of it. To be honest, I can’t think of a reason why charges got filed in the first place. No actual injury, at a club, where everyone is drunk? Give me a break.
galathrax - January 31, 2012
you're (presumably) a lawyer and can't figure out why charges got filed against a famous person?
isn’t money usually the answer?
(rec for the analysis in your initial post)
mollcutpurse - January 31, 2012
Touche
galathrax - January 31, 2012
Injury doesn't make a difference
It’s not a civil suit. Its a criminal charge. The majority rule on battery in the criminal context is an unwanted intentional offensive touching = battery. There is no requirement that the defendant inflict injury, or intend to inflict injury. He only needs to intend to carry out the uninvited offensive/ harmful touching. Now, I say that’s the majority rule. Nevada may require injury as an element of criminal battery, but I highly doubt it. So if I’m the prosecutor, and I’m reading the police report, I’m looking to see if all the elements of the offense are present, and I might take a look at the impact it had on the victim. And I don’t mean in terms of physical injury, but maybe that would be considered w/in the scope of the overall impact.
miked612 - January 31, 2012
Touching a person isn't battery
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
Touching is battery.
Naztuu - January 31, 2012
It could be techincally considered battery
under certain circumstances but wouldn’t be enough for charges to stick.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/battery-definition.html
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
Hey Mike, I agree under criminal law. I’m talking about from an immigration law perspective, whether a conviction would affect Overeem’s ability to fight in the U.S. Cheers.
galathrax - January 31, 2012
Unwanted offensive touching, with no intent to injure or harm
rarely leads to a conviction.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
moral turpitude
is usually ……cheating, stealing or lying.
Naztuu - January 31, 2012
Informative post.
Thanks. Rec’d.
Sabate - January 31, 2012
You sound smart, what the hell are you doing here.
Patrick Tenney - January 31, 2012
Looking for a job with the UFC
I think they should bring the immigration aspect of fighter visas (and of course, fighters coaches, families, etc) in-house, which I will gladly do for the low-low price of cageside tickets to every UFC and an average salary. Becoming Joe Silva’s right hand man would be another sacrifice I’d be willing to make.
There used to be issues all the time with fighters failing to get visas, for example Mark Hunt and Yushin Okami come to mind. But I haven’t heard anything lately.
I tried to ask Dana for a job at UFC 82 in Columbus, but I chickened out and just shook his hand instead. Maybe if it ever gets regulated in New York, I’ll give it another go.
galathrax - January 31, 2012
pester him on twatter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - January 31, 2012
Yeah
Send him a lot of twats.
juanchoD - February 1, 2012 via mobile
You could work on getting Hector Lombard's 'visa issues' resolved...
Or not
ThatsHowIRoll - January 31, 2012
He probably just breathed too hard on her.
mburtoni - January 31, 2012 via mobile
Footage has been released of the incident
Pandanus - January 31, 2012
i was waiting for one of these lol like damn dude you got evidence everywhere.
hey stop comin’ in the gym bitches! no thats not funny stop it domestic violence is not gonna be the humor of the day
Mac Marley - January 31, 2012
these are both amazing
mollcutpurse - January 31, 2012
Overeem gonna Overeem.
Unabomberman - January 31, 2012
man she doesn’t seem to enjoy übereems physical humor at all
the guy with the big nose - January 31, 2012
She’s loving it.. and she DID ask for it. (it was a pre-planned sketch type thing)
Horselover Fat - January 31, 2012
She looks genuinely upset there. This is why you should have a safe word.
toxic - January 31, 2012
It did seem like she was bothered by his antics.
She was cool with him hitting her, and doing the chokes, because it was planned and they were just playing around a bit. But When he ambushed her like that, it was pretty clear that she wasn’t prepared for some giant dude to grab her and toss her to the ground.
Warbreezy - January 31, 2012
Okay, that’s not how I interpreted the situation at all. We’ll probably never know for sure though I guess.
Also: someone should really make gifs from when he punches and kicks her! Would be a great addition to the collection.
Horselover Fat - January 31, 2012
Are you on E bombs right now? Studies show that people on E can’t properly interpret the facial cues that people give regarding the state of mind. People on E think everyone is giving them positive non verbal cues.
Hardy's in your face - January 31, 2012
The video
says a lot more.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
Perfectly sober. Well, except caffeine and nicotine. The whole point of the segment was to rough her up and make her feel uncomfortable, almost a Jackass type deal. I honestly don’t care what she may or may not have felt during those few seconds you’re harping over. She must have been aware something like that could happen when she came up with this concept.
Horselover Fat - January 31, 2012
It was an involuntary reaction.
People agree to something, and their mind says “Go!,” but instinct says “Fuck this. I didn’t sign for this shit!”
Unabomberman - January 31, 2012
A video was posted below.
She was laughing and smiling when Overeem was hitting her(lightly) and even when he put her in the chokes. But when he grabs from behind, you can tell she is struggling and isn’t having fun anymore. And then when she is on the ground, she sits up to finish the interview(or w/e it was) and you can see that she is a little shaken up about what just happened. It seemed like it was planned and she didn’t enjoy it.
That being said, I don’t believe Overeem was being malicious. I think he was just trying to be funny and forgot that he was a 250 pound athlete/trained fighter and she might not like being ragdolled by somebody she was trusting not to hurt her.
Warbreezy - January 31, 2012
True
At a certain point, its natural to be scared even if there’s no real danger.
Like a roller coaster.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
I think most peole would be a little scared if they were playing with an MMA fighter
Even though they know that these, especially the HWs, are generally the nicest people on earth, it’s still a scary prospect. It would also have to be terribly fun to have your favorite fighter hit you/submit you/throw you around etc, without being in any real danger. I think she agreed to all of those things, and had a good time of it.
However, I don’t think they planned on him grabbing her from behind, putting his hand over her nose and mouth while she struggled, and then tossing her on her face. That is pretty clearly shown by her expressions during and directly after it all went down.
Warbreezy - January 31, 2012
Yeah well, again, she brought it on herself. See my reply to Hardy’s above.
Horselover Fat - January 31, 2012
Nobody's to blame here. Why do you keep trying to harp it on her?
Unabomberman - January 31, 2012
Watch the video
She obviously was having fun.
Its from a show called “Things that suck”.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
Bas didn't seem to appreciate that humor either
Reem pulled the same thing sneaking up behind him and Bas did not look pleased.
bustachong - January 31, 2012
Because Bas
is the toughest, smartest man who has ever lived.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
what is this from?
Dave Strummer - January 31, 2012
Click the link GeeDub posted below
Horselover Fat - January 31, 2012
Whatever her left leg is doing is hilarious.
It’s like it’s trying escape her torso.
Warbreezy - January 31, 2012
Reem = Rogers
Afrotikiman - January 31, 2012 via mobile
Guilty!
Here’s the proof!!
GeeDub - January 31, 2012
These Europeans are weired
I guess she is the woman version of Steve-O
Coeman - January 31, 2012
Us MMA fans just can never win can we.
Krimson - January 31, 2012
I think when athletes reach a certain level of success, they need to have a handler with them at all times
Who know how to shove obnoxious people out of the way within the law.
KJ Gould - January 31, 2012
Overeem put his hands on a woman!?
When will she have the baby? Or, perhaps a better wording is when the baby will have her…uber kneeing out of her like an Alien chestburster.
jcbrewer - January 31, 2012
I can’t help but think of that gif where Overeem is walking away from the cage after he beat Werdum(?) and bumps into some skeezer and she turns around all pissed off, sees who it is and is like “Oh… damn!”
menckenstein - January 31, 2012
This?
sexysassytravismmafan - January 31, 2012
That's the one! Haha, the fear in her eyes.
Man I want that shirt.
I’m reserving judgement as I’ve been in a similar situation. A drunk/high girl was trying to climb my friend’s little brother at a concert so I pushed her away, she fell down, went and got security and I had to deal with the same crap.
menckenstein - January 31, 2012
A friend of mine was charged with misdemeanor battery after breaking up 2 drunk girls fighting at a burger king at 2am. After they were separated, the girls (who were friends) decided to apologize to each other then told the arriving police that my buddy had joined in on the fracas and attacked the one he pulled off.
The charges magically disappeared after burger king coughed up the security tapes.
nastyem - January 31, 2012
Yeah stuff like that is ridiculous
My charges were dropped once my attorney showed the photos of the scratches all over the boy’s neck/shoulders scalp, from her trying to scale him and the swabs the cops took from under the chick’s nails. I think she ended up paying some kind of fine and had some probation because he was a minor.
Justice isn’t blind it’s just “simple”.
menckenstein - January 31, 2012
And stupid. But thats justice for you.
dandeman - January 31, 2012
fixed.
Victor Rodriguez - January 31, 2012
Never get involved in anything.
UncleMax - January 31, 2012
If This Is True
I hope JDS breaks his face into a million pieces this summer.
TheIrishLemon - January 31, 2012
If this is true, I hope JDS breaks his face into a million pieces this summer.Fixed.
Dave Strummer - January 31, 2012
If this is true,I hope JDS breakshis faceinto a million pieces this summer.Fixed x2
Jk, I love JDS, that fight is win-win for me.
bustachong - January 31, 2012
I won't judge because we have no context
He could have been a dick and this might be serious, maybe it was a misunderstanding, or maybe an obnoxious woman got in his face with the “you can’t hit me” mentality and got snuffed.
discoandherpes - January 31, 2012
Hopefully this all blows over with no other consequences
KJ Gould - January 31, 2012
It probably was Bas Rutten wearing a wig
..on an undercover mission from Golden Glory.
The man is about as classy as fighters get.
Always wellspoken, relaxed and quite layed back.
Bones_nl - January 31, 2012
Bas in a wig. lol.
UncleMax - January 31, 2012 via Android app
This.....
Only in America!!
Sanderman - January 31, 2012
I hate this saying
No, it does not only happen in America. The legal system everywhere is dumb.
crazybones - January 31, 2012
Face push=battery.
Man, I owe my dog many apologies. Maybe the girl was just after Reems bowl of cereal.
NickRingp4pGOAT - January 31, 2012
The Rock's Pie > The Reem's Bowl of Cereal
Wait….
Krimson - January 31, 2012
this is how it went down
Thats It For you! - January 31, 2012
Perfect.
NickRingp4pGOAT - January 31, 2012
with ACTUAL footage
Tatsu Maki Sen Puu Kyaku - February 2, 2012
Overeem has always come off as a level-headed, professional and I’m going to call BS on these charges as well. My prediction: the club was crowded and everyone was drunk and dancing, girl gets knocked over somehow by Overeem and she later realizes he’s a famous person.
andrew861 - January 31, 2012
Remember that time the Overeems were in a brawl with a bunch of bouncers and he got glass in his hand which got infected
Robust23 - January 31, 2012
It came out later
That he was completely justified and in the right.
TheFilt - January 31, 2012
Yeah I don’t buy this. Probably just some drunk chick got too close and obnoxious, and decided to press charges after she was denied. Or maybe she just ran into his arms and fell on the floor. Reem seems like a gentleman, don’t see him going around shoving women unless it’s absolutely necessary.
Horselover Fat - January 31, 2012
It's a setup!
Golden Glory planted her there!
BrothaDarkness - January 31, 2012
Nationality will not affect the matter at all
His being out of the country may result in his state side lawyer postponing the court date, that is, as long as the G doesn’t object, but otherwise, nationality will not affect matters.
miked612 - January 31, 2012
I know it was a beating, but calling Brock a woman seems petty...
And i didnt think a fighter could catch a battery charge for beating someone up in the octagon…
The article didn’t mention the “woman” had a bad haircut and a pair of Deathclutch shorts…
RearNakedToke - January 31, 2012 via mobile
R U Kidding???
Was the Woman named Brock???
BadBoy1 - January 31, 2012
The fact that you can summon law enforcement for being “staggered” with no injuries is such a waste of police resources
terzergoss - January 31, 2012
I have a feeling this girl was drunk and getting too close/slobbering all over the Reem who then probably moved her aside. Also I’m sure his documentarian has the whole thing on tape anyways so we’ll know soon enough what really happened
Robust23 - January 31, 2012
Do be fair, he hadn't put his shirt back since the weigh ins.
Can you really blame some girl at a club for slobbering all over him?
Warbreezy - January 31, 2012
the Dutch are scum.
/metalocalypse, jk
thirdparty - January 31, 2012
Please tell me
Someone else remembers those videos from holland tv that cane out a few years ago of term absolutely BRUTALIZING the young tiny Girl holding a Thai kick pad. Like brutally knocking this girl to the ground and hitting her as hard as he can while he just smiles. Its really bizarre.
bert44 - January 31, 2012 via mobile
Brutalizing is such a strong word.
She probably said ‘No.’ to being kicked but we all know she wanted it.
Un Sandpiper - January 31, 2012
Mr. Franca? is that you?
Unabomberman - January 31, 2012
you done
mmamania’d
UncleMax - January 31, 2012
I assume you mean Gordo's gif
because in the real instance, the BRUTALIZED young girl quickly got up, laughing her ass off, and Reem obviously did not kick her as hard as he could.
Grappo - January 31, 2012
The girl
asked to be kicked harder the second time. Way to take things out of context boob.
majesticlamb - January 31, 2012
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