Even if the UFC is more of a known entity today than it was five years ago, many of their lower and mid-level fighters still keep additional jobs to help pay the bills. Jacob Volkmann is one of those fighters, keeping up with a chiropractic business and a wrestling coach position at White Bear Lake High School in Minnesota.
He'll have a bit more free time on his hands as he revealed on Twitter that he's again been placed on administrative leave from the school following a joke he made about U.S. President Barack Obama at UFC 141.
@JacobVolkmann
Jacob Volkmann Was put on administrative leave from coaching white bear lake high school wrestling for my joke. Unethical! @ufc
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Following his unanimous decision win over Efrain Escudero on the Facebook prelims, Volkmann told Joe Rogan that Obama needed a "glassectomy". Rogan asked what that was and was told, "It's where they remove the belly button and put a piece of glass in there so you can see what you're doing while your head's up your ass."
Volkmann famously was visited by the Secret Service after saying someone needed to "
After losing his first two UFC fights, Volkmann (14-2) dropped to lightweight and is on a five fight win streak.
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Won't this guy ever learn to shut his mouth or at least chill on the Obama jokes that keeps getting him in hot water?!
daftshadow - January 6, 2012
It’s a job that pays $1,800 bucks a year… The kids he mentors, trains & coaches will loose alot more then him.
RECE ROCK - January 6, 2012 via mobile
There's an alot on the loose?!
WheelieMonkey - January 6, 2012
cherry pickin
point was still made
NEW-HAMPSHIRE - January 6, 2012
a lot
HitokiriX - January 6, 2012
Major B - January 6, 2012
I love Alot
discoandherpes - January 6, 2012
Then he shouldn't be selfish and say things that could get him in trouble
HitokiriX - January 6, 2012
this!!
troyd - January 6, 2012
Isn’t freedom of speech grand? I LOVE that freedom of expression. So palpable, I can taste it! Mmmm…tastes like chicken! I hate bad jokes, too, but wouldn’t put him on leave.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
The government isn’t putting him on leave, his employer is. He is not being prosecuted for anything, how is he not free?
Actions have consequences, sorry…
troyd - January 6, 2012
He also “agreed to abide by certain rules.” I wonder if “don’t mention Obama on UFC broadcasts” was one of them…
Tedd Welch - January 6, 2012
^^^^^ this ^^^^
A million times.
Beau Dure - January 6, 2012
funny how the people that pull the constitution out of their sleeve the fastest are the ones that understand it the least.
Victor Rodriguez - January 6, 2012
i got warned on BE once for telling some asshole to kiss my dick
i didn’t like it.
HitokiriX - January 6, 2012
the cool thing is that your post makes you about 538 times funnier than Volkmann.
Victor Rodriguez - January 6, 2012
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it.
The school can decide they don’t want one of their coaches spouting nonsense in a public forum. If a public school put him on leave for saying he didn’t like Obama’s policies it would be one thing, but he said something incredibly stupid and has to live with the consequences.
Phildo - January 6, 2012
this.
volkmann, being an apparent libertarian, should know this and support it.
Rob Young - January 6, 2012
And by the same logic, we have the right to think the school is run by incompetent hacks who support incompetent presidents
unambig - January 6, 2012
You have every right to think and say that
That doesn’t make the school district in violation of any constitutional rights.
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
Nobody violated his constitutional rights
What the school did is demonstrate an appalling lack of consideration for the expression of those rights in his free time, away from his place of employ.
unambig - January 7, 2012
My bad, should have scrolled up
i thought you were replying to the dude talking about the first amendment. We’re actually agreeing here.
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
As someone who works a school
everyone knows you keep your politics in the break-room with the other employees.
You don’t spout it out in a public forum because parents will start to wonder what your like with the kids. And normally parents are very much against other adults trying to influence their kid’s political views, even if they agree with person. The fact that Volkmann doesn’t present his opinion in a real, inform critique of the President’s politics and makes crass jokes just makes that worst. (not saying he isn’t informed, just doesn’t present himself that way)
T.P. Grant - January 7, 2012
Maybe he should government approval before he says anything
Maybe we should all just seek Obama’s approval before we post on here
unambig - January 6, 2012
^This is retarded.
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
Reminds of the 16th Century to be honest
Speaketh not against the king, lest thy head find itself on the block
unambig - January 7, 2012
Right
Decapitation is the same as losing a very small percentage of your annual income
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
this makes my history hurt
T.P. Grant - January 7, 2012
Is that what they teach at Medieval Times these days?
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 7, 2012
This has nothing to do with government approval
They didn’t get involved at all
Cunny - January 7, 2012
So, in a purportedly free society and democracy in which you're perfectly at liberty to beat someone up in a cage, you approve of this type of arbitrary retribution for voicing political viewpoints?
unambig - January 6, 2012
He should be forced to take comedy lessons and re-pay everyone that bought the PPV $5 for suffering through his shit awful nonsense. Somebody call Chael and have him teach this guy how to troll.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
I don't think he was on the PPV broadcast
Chris Groves - January 6, 2012
Shit...............ummmm.....
DOESN’T MATTER!!!!
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
It was on Spike to be fair
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
My biggest problem with Volkmann's "joke"
Is that it wasn’t funny. He needs some new material. To paraphrase Jerry Seinfeld, his jokes about Obama don’t offend me as a Democrat, they offend me as a comedian.
MichaelDavidSmith - January 6, 2012
My problem with it is he needs to keep his stupid fucking politics out of my MMA. If he wants to say shit like that he should just go to a rally and dangle a few dozen bags of Earl Grey off his hat.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
Don’t leave your uncle T-bag hanging!
Horselover Fat - January 6, 2012
lol
HitokiriX - January 6, 2012
And it isn't even like Bendo and his religion
At least there he’s being a positive role model, Volkmann is just being a total jackass about the president without doing anything productive whatsoever.
T.C. Engel - January 6, 2012
His productivity has been hampered by incompetent measures from his administration
He uses his fame to make the same point millions of us would love to make.
unambig - January 6, 2012
He has made zero intellectual points about policy or politics.
Volkmann talks like a guy who gets punched in the head for a living. Big surprise.
pdl - January 7, 2012
What measures? What, specifically, is the problem?
What exact issues is Volkman raising that he, and by extension you, are so up in arms about? I would have to imagine that being a chiropractor, Volkman’s main beef concerns the ACA and its impact on healthcare. Funny thing is, none of the major provisions go into effect until 2014. So what exactly is the problem? Less Medicare reimbursement? The requirement to have an effective electronic medical record? What?
And don’t tell me the biggest issue is “uncertainty”. That’s bullshit. A tsunami devastated Japan and created massive logistic crises for a bunch of industries for months and end. Those industries are still around, so I think a 24 month heads up on some fairly direct modifications can be absorbed by the bloated U.S. healthcare system.
If Volkman’s main problem is the fact that the world seems hard and unfair, its because he’s not that smart to begin with. And that’s not Obamas fault.
Forbidden Psychological Technology - January 7, 2012 via mobile
I guess we can't all be as poetic as "Gracie jujitsu by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night"
unambig - January 6, 2012
“All day”
sexysassytravismmafan - January 7, 2012 via mobile
I grin like a fool every time I hear that intro
also what was this a response too?
Cunny - January 7, 2012
He needs to figure out that an octogan or mms interview is not the appropriate forum to air out his political views.
boscomma - January 6, 2012
*mma
boscomma - January 6, 2012
1800 a year?
thats kind of low…
C.A.M. - January 6, 2012
its just a local high school
and wrestling season only lasts so long. I think it is a cool thing that he does.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
It's not low
It’s a part-time job doing youth coaching. Plenty of people do it for free. How much do you think the taxpayers of that school district should be paying Jacob Volkmann?
MichaelDavidSmith - January 6, 2012
1800 is fairly standard for an assistant coach at a high school
I was the head coach of a high school lacrosse team here in Chicago, and I was only paid slightly more than that for 4 months of seasonal work.
RonSwanson - January 6, 2012
Ron Swanson would never play Lacrosse
And he certainly wouldn’t take public money to teach kids to play it. You sir are an imposter.
RoB_ex - January 7, 2012 via mobile
Not unethical
Volkmann is a moron. Freedom of speech means you have the right to say what you want but don’t expect no repercussions. Especially when you work in a public school system.
JG87 - January 6, 2012
And he said it on cable, the UFC doesn’t need unlikable personalities representing it
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
Idiot.
Gideon Jay - January 6, 2012
You don't make crappy jokes about the President in such a public setting
Damn…I’ll laugh at just about anything that’s funny…but his joke was just kind of dumb.
I mean, the only reason I could see people thinking it was funny at all is if they hate Obama and approve of anything that takes a shot at him.
Chris Groves - January 6, 2012
Prettysure these guys showed up
Krimson - January 6, 2012
Well, that's because they're busy not catching terrorists
unambig - January 6, 2012
Who cares?
Volkmann could l’n’p the lot of em before lunch and still have time to l’n’p some school kids after
Mattyjudo - January 7, 2012 via Android app
This is Dana White's fault
I’m sure of it.
SSreporters - January 6, 2012
impossible
I blame Kid Nate!
Kevin Jennison J. Zametov-St Pierre - January 6, 2012
Jacob Volkmann.
The gift that keeps on giving!
Unabomberman - January 6, 2012
What did the Spanish priest say to the Arabian gynecologist?
Liberals are stupid.
/Volkmannized
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
At least that was psuedo funny. The fact that he said something again, he brought it on himself.
The danger when someone gets political in this kind of setting is that it could turn off potential sponsors. Either way of the political spectrum.
Scott Whitt - January 6, 2012
hence his sponsor laden walkout shirts.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
You wanna hear a joke?
Obama healthcare policies
/Volkmannized
IRodC - January 6, 2012
At first I thought this was some wordplay on labia / liberals and the potential removal of such in those regions, so I laughed. Then I realized it wasn’t meant to be that clever at all. Damn.
Horselover Fat - January 6, 2012
it's cleverness lies in it being unclever
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
Yeah, I know, I realized that was too clever to be a Volkmann saying.
Horselover Fat - January 6, 2012
you're also supposed to ask the audience to help deliver the punchline
I loved how Rogan looked at him like, “I really don’t want to know what a glassectomy is.”
tigerlee - January 6, 2012
People are talking about Jacob Volkmann
Crappy joke or not, Jacob Volkmann wins.
IWillPartyHard - January 6, 2012
until Jacob Volkmann loses. Then, WE win!
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
I mean, you gotta give the guy some credit
He had a boring fight on the facebook prelim when absolutely no one was in the crowd, and hear we are, 7 days later, still talking about Jacob Volkmann.
IWillPartyHard - January 6, 2012
Fair point.
“This just in: Darren Elkins demands copy of President Obama’s birth certificate in post fight interview.”
Tag01 - January 6, 2012
“Jon fitch says he’s not racist because he voted for Obama”
Hendo_One-Shot - January 6, 2012
will i give him credit? No. Will I laugh at him for being a turd that doesn't get the hint when to stop? Yes.
Did I just answer your question in the form of Frank Mir? Yes.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
If we work hard enough, we can get “Answer your question in the form of Frank Mir” swapped into the lexicon for Rhetorical Question.
Tag01 - January 6, 2012
Is this a task I am willing to take on? Absolutely.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
I don't think he should stop
It’s his shtick and it’s making him more popular than he should be. Tom Lawlor is a similar situation, where he got popular based on weigh-in and walk-in antics. Although Lawler’s were often funny and all better than Volkmann’s latest effort. It’s how you go from middling to main card.
IWillPartyHard - January 6, 2012
still haven’t heard anything positive about him…
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
credit for being on administrative leave?
you could also say that here we are 7 days later and we’re still talking about White Bear Lake wrestling. Or here we are 31 years later and we’re still talking about that old lady in the Where’s the Beef! commercial.
tigerlee - January 6, 2012
He wins...until he faces a top 15 LW
Then he’ll end up looking like he did against Kampmann….totally outclassed.
SSreporters - January 6, 2012
I'm not so sure
Volkmann’s style is entirely based on being able to outwrestle and control his opponent. At WW he had a distinct size and strength disadvantage that limited him severely. He has out grappled several tough grapplers at LW, leading me to believe he could hang with most anyone in the division. Not saying he would win, but he’s like Guida, a tough fight no matter who you are.
IWillPartyHard - January 6, 2012
They might as well set up Guida vs. Volkmann
See what happens.
SSreporters - January 6, 2012
Guida will tear his fucking head off
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
I think that'd be a fun fight
Good fight to get Guida back on track.
IWillPartyHard - January 6, 2012
Suck it, wingnut.
Had he cracked that joke about W he’d be in Guantanamo, so life could be worse.
Tag01 - January 6, 2012
And...
The teachers union would have pinned a medal on him.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Nonsense
unambig - January 6, 2012
Bad jokes are unethical.
Poor delivery is worse.
bigstupidsmile - January 6, 2012
OMG. communism/fascism going on here. Thought this was america?
Hendo_One-Shot - January 6, 2012
MicahtheCynic - January 6, 2012
This guy is so stupid
Why does he think anyone would want to hear his retard opinions on politics? He just says stuff like “Uhm, I think Obama is stupid, and his plans and laws are not good, you know.. I want to break his arm”. Not only is he stupid and trash, he’s also not funny. Like, at all. PLUS, his fights are boring as shit too! AAAAAH!!! God I hate this guy!
Horselover Fat - January 6, 2012
thank you
my sentiments exactly
troyd - January 6, 2012
What
a weirdo.
David Castillo - January 6, 2012
seriously
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
He sucks anyway...
big fing whup…
Kid Kimura - January 6, 2012
Going to bring back this little chain of jokes from the Dream NYE thread.
“Just got my job back. They told me I couldn’t joke about Obama. I told them ’Murrica and freedom of the speech.”
/Volkmannized
mountaineers101 - January 6, 2012
His Jokes are not funny and awkward.
He is pauley Shore
NEW-HAMPSHIRE - January 6, 2012
What’s the difference between Obama and Me?
We both lost our jobs in 2012.
/Volkmannized
MicahtheCynic - January 6, 2012
im hoping that was supposed to make no sense whatsoever.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
Pretty much.
MicahtheCynic - January 6, 2012
Differences and similarities.
How do they work?
mountaineers101 - January 6, 2012
Fucking jokes.
MicahtheCynic - January 6, 2012
In Northern England, it is spelled "fooking jooke!"
mountaineers101 - January 6, 2012
love this guy
I could party with ease if him & overeem were with me
liptondrift - January 6, 2012
Just gonna leave this here
Damon O. - January 7, 2012
Dynamite areolas
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
Early Scrubs was great
Cunny - January 7, 2012
Andy Anderson - January 7, 2012
maybe this will work this time…
Andy Anderson - January 7, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyxm1EXy938
third time is a charm? my linking is as bad as Volkmann’s jokes
Andy Anderson - January 7, 2012
This will work this time
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
thanks man
I love that we live in a world where Polish rappers sample a MMA fighters post-fight rant.
Andy Anderson - January 7, 2012
No problem
In the future highlight the phrase you want, then hit the link button, to make an in text link
Chris Hall - January 7, 2012
They don't work.
Just like all them lazy folks on welfare.
/Volkmannized
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
You know what else don't work?
That dadgum Obamacare.
/Volkmannized
mountaineers101 - January 6, 2012
You know the good thing about Obamacare?
Nothing
/Volkmannized
IRodC - January 6, 2012
You know what you hear if you listen to one of Obamas speeches backwards?
You hear Satanic messages.
Worse than that, if you listen to it normally, you hear Obama.
/Volkmannized
Brandon Degaph - January 6, 2012 via mobile
what are the santanic messages
and where can i hear
four20 - January 7, 2012
liar
gtfo troll
four20 - January 7, 2012
this was a good one
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
Not funny
because it actually made the corner of my lip rise.
GreyedOut - January 7, 2012
All jokes aside, this is pretty messed up. Like fuck, are we in Canada?
Hendo_One-Shot - January 6, 2012
Meaning...
unambig - January 6, 2012
I'm actually surprised the UFC didn't do anything.
av1o3 - January 6, 2012
Joe Rogan immediately mocked him in front of everyone watching
so at least there was that.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
I think the UFC should fire him
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
Maybe he should take President Obama sensitivity classes and donate to Obama crises centres
unambig - January 6, 2012
For all the hate he gets I don’t think he deserves it, fighters are constantly making stupid jokes or statements yet he’s getting the most hate. His style isn’t great but betting on him to win makes his fights more enjoyable.
tremblay6 - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Well
he did say he wanted to mutilate Obama’s stomach on live tv. Not the smartest thing to do.
av1o3 - January 6, 2012
He also said in some interview afterwards (middleeasy?) that he wants to fight him, take him down and submit him with a painful submission, like a kimura or armbar and rip his arm off. Roughly that’s what he said.
Horselover Fat - January 6, 2012
whats scary is if Bush was still President and he said it about him there would be no problem
dalton77 - January 6, 2012
this is unbelievably incorrect.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
Wow, Obama The Untouchable? Seriously? This guy gets a pass on every mistake he makes, that we the taxpayers pay for. Bush got clowned by everybody, and it was all good in the ‘hood. But Herr Obama, sacred. Ah well, I forgot that don’t really understand freedom of speech or freedom of expression. The “painful submission” talk was pretty dumb, but this was just a dumb joke, that should have been laughed off, because it sure couldn’t be laughed at. If unfunny jokes were a crime, I would be UNDER Guantanamo, not in it. People need to get over the Obama worship, stop being hypocrites, and realize they have two choices in life: Get over it or don’t. Either way, nobody gives a fuck.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
not going there dude.
It’s rule # something or other…….besides you are so far off base.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
1. There’s a rule about no politics on the site
2. Take a chill pill.
3. This is not a freedom of speech issue, the government isn’t punishing him for his remarks, his employer thought it was inappropriate and sanctioned him for it. The things people say have consequences at their jobs specially when said in public.
IRodC - January 6, 2012
well said IRod
Robert V-U - January 6, 2012
Okay…was unaware and just adding two cents to the conversation that was already going. Just saying that I thought the school was wrong, and pointing some things out. Not defending anything but what I perceived to be a free speech issue. But after talking to some people, I realize that just like dude had the right to say it, the school has the right to reprimand him for it. I’m not here to offend (with this comment, anyway), I’m here for the interesting and oftentimes humorous things I read on here. But, no one is above ridicule, just like no one is above getting their knuckles rapped by their employer for putting them in an unseemly light. If I broke policy, I apologize. That was never my intention. Looks like I got my knuckles rapped, as well. Now please, put that ruler DOWN!
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
I’ve never been an employer, so I never thought of it from that angle…
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Can I send you a copy of everything my friends post on Facebook? Or a cable hookup so you can watch Fox News Channel? (Or you can just watch edited highlights on The Daily Show.)
Beau Dure - January 6, 2012
A ton of liberals have called out Obama
I don’t see why you’re getting so mad.
discoandherpes - January 6, 2012
You lost me at "Herr Obama".
Rob Young - January 6, 2012
Guy's defending Bush
Hard to do that and not be unbelievably incorrect.
I’ll show myself out.
Derek Suboticki - January 6, 2012
And PEACE OUT NAPOLEAN!
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
fucking Subo...
this is posting equivalent to Mark Hunt’s walk off KO, children.
watch and learn.
Victor Rodriguez - January 6, 2012
You really believe that?
Jahbulon - January 6, 2012
No
IRodC - January 6, 2012
Dixie Chicks are wondering what planet you live on.
Pantherhare - January 7, 2012
Volkmann own's this thread.
We’re all his puppets and he is our puppet master.
Volkmann in ’12. Just so we can spend the next four years being uncomfortable every time someone puts a mic in front of him.
wmuk - January 6, 2012
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Grappo - January 6, 2012
This looks like some BDSM waiting to happen
Krimson - January 6, 2012
I may have some type of sickness
Because this oddly makes me horny…
supermario305 - January 7, 2012
It’s called a fetish
Nothing wrong with that.
Horselover Fat - January 7, 2012
The actual episode creeped me the fuck out.
GreyedOut - January 7, 2012
yeah, especially the opening
it was creepy as hell, but also sorta beautiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcfz3zt2DDo
Grappo - January 7, 2012
the big winners? those high school kids. they get LESS of this twat. we unfortunately get more of this tool because as fael proved, the world loves tools. now volkmann has more time to sign up as more pretend forum writers and defend his dumbshit actions and make more kindergarten political references.
SKK BB - January 6, 2012
thanks for stoppin by.
Earl Montclair - January 6, 2012
bah.
he’s probably a good wrestling coach who tells shitty jokes and has poor judgment regarding humor. but thanks for stopping by!
Victor Rodriguez - January 6, 2012
His joke
I can’t even remember what it was exactly… he coined some new term for having a glass window inserted into the bellybutton area so Obama, since his head is up his ass, could still see out or something, right?
It was not only unfunny, his delivery was horrible.
IKiIIed007 - January 6, 2012
Then he was angry at Rogan for not laughing at his joke
IRodC - January 6, 2012
Read the article.. the quote is right under the tweet
Horselover Fat - January 6, 2012
What?
You think I am gonna break my “headlines only” streak for this? I say thee nay!
IKiIIed007 - January 7, 2012
Your choice, bro. Just trying to help you out!
Horselover Fat - January 7, 2012
He is an idiot. He wanted to get attention - He got it
I said in the live thread that night that it probably isn’t a good thing to get on a mic and talk about how he wants to cut the presidents stomach open. If it was at least funny then maybe I’d have more sympathy.
Joben - January 6, 2012
He's unlikeable, awkward, boring and uncharismatic
and his fights are sleep-inducing
There is no upside with this guy
Cunny - January 6, 2012
I told that joke the other day at my gun club meeting and one guy almost choked on his tobaccy he laughed so hard. Heeeeelarious. I said, “You been volkmannized, son!” and he spit his chaw half way crosst the room!
( . Y . ) - January 6, 2012
And then he told you have a "purty mouth"?
unambig - January 6, 2012
Pretty sure one of those rules was “don’t do that again.”
Derek Suboticki - January 6, 2012
Kids need to learn ...
… to follow the rules.
They’ll need to know that in college, in the military, in the workplace, etc.
Question the rules, argue about the rules, whatever. But if you don’t follow them, there are consequences. If the school doesn’t set an example with Volkmann, what are they supposed to learn?
I’m sorry — this post wasn’t funny. But neither is Volkmann. Really, when you get right down it, his complaint is about how Obamacare affects his chiropractor business. As if Obama sat down and said, “You know, insuring everyone would be nice. But that’s my second priority. What I really want to do with this landmark legislation — my very first priority as president — is to screw the chiropractors.”
So three cheers for Volkmann. He’s the Rosa Parks of … his own take on how insurers should handle his business.
Beau Dure - January 6, 2012
This is unbelievable.
Political comentary or political satire is a key part of American politics. He basically said the president has his head up his ass. So What? I voted for Obama and will do so again even though I think he is a mediocre president, But expressing your political opinion OUTSIDE of your job should not be punishable. IF he was doing this to his students at school thats one thing. But you cant punish someone for some political opinion they said outside of work.
It would be like if your job fired you for registering for a member of a different political party than your boss. Or if you got disciplined at work for donating to a political campaign your boss doesn’t like. Thats illegal and un-American.
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
Dude agreed to the rules, he pays the price for breaking them.
Tedd Welch - January 6, 2012
So expressing your political opinion can be against “the rules” in the United States now? What country are we in?
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
you can express your opinion without saying the President has his head up his ass. Especially if you work at a school and have a very large public platform.
Phildo - January 6, 2012
Yes you can, but if you are not saying anything illegal how is it okay for the empolyer to regulate your political speech. What if he ended a sentence with a preposition in his political speech, could the reprimand him for that too? Political speech in an offensive manner is still political speech.
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
if he was an english teacher i’m sure they would.
He isn’t, he’s a wrestling coach who said he would stop making public, moronic comments about the President, he didn’t.
Phildo - January 6, 2012
What is moronic about saying the President has his head up his ass? Its a common figure of speech.
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
It’s a pretty silly figure of speech, especially for someone who works at a school, especially who has already been told, and agreed to stop making ridiculous, public, comments.
Phildo - January 6, 2012
And if you dont think every politician in Washington DC has their heads up their asses, then you dont live in the real world.
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
they probably do, doesn’t mean a teacher is going to get away with saying it on TV.
Phildo - January 6, 2012
I’m a journalist. I can’t have yard signs or bumper stickers endorsing candidates. Part of the job.
And when your first attempt at political commentary draws Secret Service attention, your employer has every right to say, “Hey, knock it off.”
Beau Dure - January 7, 2012
Hell yes it can, if your employer says you can’t and you agree to it.
Tedd Welch - January 7, 2012
That part depends on the state. Some states have different rules and laws. I know in Illinois, Chicago, specifically, certain unions won’t let you have political bumper stickers except for the ones they endorse. I was told about that during the 2004 campaign. You could only endorse candidate A, and cover your hardhat with that particular sticker, but not candidate b. You would be reprimanded and or sent off the job. But hey, no politics on here, unless you support candidate A, and saying anything about candidate b will get you reprimanded and or sent odd the site.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Unions arn't employers.
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
I come from a non union part of the country, and my wife just explained THAT to me. DAMN, I am having a rough day. But, learning is FUN!
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Sorry, bakuto, sometimes I just don’t understand certain things and need explanation. I would never work for a union, personally, but hey, today is my dumbass day, we all have them.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Wasnt trying to be an ass about it. But I’m pretty sure the laws are different. I just cant believe the number of people on here thinking it is okay for an employer to punish an employee for a political opinion.
Bakuto - January 6, 2012
No offense taken, call me out anytime I’m wrong on here! Better to be corrected and then be able to be right later on than to keep being wrong and continually looking stupid! No hate here, nothing but love…
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
political opinion != talking about wanting to mutilate the president’s stomach as well as breaking his limbs
Rob Young - January 6, 2012
That part depends on the state. Some states have different rules and laws. I know in Illinois, Chicago, specifically, certain unions won’t let you have political bumper stickers except for the ones they endorse. I was told about that during the 2004 campaign. You could only endorse candidate A, and cover your hardhat with that particular sticker, but not candidate b. You would be reprimanded and or sent off the job. But hey, no politics on here, unless you support candidate A, and saying anything about candidate b will get you reprimanded.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
Being wrong like me will make you look ill informed, right Irod? At least I’m big enough to say it.
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
"and will do so again even though I think he is a mediocre president"
You are what’s wrong with politics, muchacho
unambig - January 6, 2012
Mobile rec for truth on here!
Mr. Socko - January 6, 2012 via mobile
this
I will not discuss my specific political beliefs, as it will add nothing to the conversation and is against the rules of BE, but if you are going to vote, please make an effort to educate yourself, and vote for someone you truly feel will do the best job. If no candidate is going to do a good job in your opinion, then write in a vote. But please, do not vote for a candidate in any election just because they have a tie you like, they are in the party that your parents, grandparents and great grandparents voted for, or “sound like they are smart”, or the many other ridiculous reasons I have heard from people across the entire political spectrum. Put in some effort to do your civic duty to be an INFORMED voter. If you do not have the time to do so, or are unwilling to do so, then leave the voting up to others. Also, please abstain from making bad jokes about politics in post-fight speeches, regardless of if you are conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, communist, fascist, Labour or Torrie, or Green Party. (I forget all of the Canadian Parties. Haven’t seen CTV, CityTV, or CBC since I have left WNY.)
Andy Anderson - January 7, 2012
I just don't vote
discoandherpes - January 7, 2012
funny how he told Karyn Bryant in one of his last post-fight interviews that he was instructed not to mention the name of the school he coaches for. oh well.
Victor Rodriguez - January 6, 2012
I heard the post fight interview.
There was no joke.
Diz D - January 7, 2012
unambig - January 7, 2012
the bad thing is
that the guy was not funny at all.. so the question is… was he supposed to be?
With a FOX deal and stuff its a wonder he is not sacked right from the UFC indeed.
szanpan - January 7, 2012
He should have been banned from high school wrestling coaching or any field involving children for looking way too much like a creepy child molester
Robust23 - January 7, 2012
"-ectomy" means removel, so they would be removing a piece of glass, not inserting one.
Isn’t he supposed to be a doctor?
Scott C. Broussard - January 7, 2012
Chiropractor
Someone who can cure cancer by making back adjustments. So, no.
Pantherhare - January 7, 2012
Which basically gets to the heart of the matter — Volkmann’s upset that whoever wrote the part of the massive legislation (which was certainly not Obama himself) dealing with chiropractors doesn’t seem to view chiropractors the way Volkmann wants.
Beau Dure - January 7, 2012
Nope
Derek Suboticki - January 7, 2012
in my country which is democratic
its not allowed to make jokes on the height (smallness) of our president . There was a documentary which many says was made up in Russia with some criminals and the reporter has jokingly asked one man for how much he would kill the president of Hungary- it has become a big big scandal :)
szanpan - January 7, 2012
This is what you get when a runaway legal system scares everyone into silence because you might get sued crosses with normal, non-political guys cracking jokes.
- Nobody gets better off of his leave.
- The kids end up worse.
- Obama doesn’t even know who Jacob Volkmann is. If he did he would not care about the joke. Having jokes made about you comes with being human. Having jokes made about you on TV comes with being the president.
But no, lets all pretend we hate jokes. Let’s all pretend we have some sort of hollywood-fictional high morality instead. Let’s pretend Obama never said ‘I said not now mom, I’m in the goddamned can!’
MyrkN - January 7, 2012
The first time he did it he was told by the school not to make remarks like that again, he did it anyway and got punished by the school for it. If you shit on your desk and your boss tell you not to shit on your desk, are you gonna shit on your desk again because this is America?
IRodC - January 7, 2012
+1
he had to of atleast had an idea that there would be backlash, but any pr is good pr to some ppl
four20 - January 7, 2012
So… Nothing happened?
He didn’t work for a week and still got paid
He just got some free holiday and people are moaning
Cunny - January 7, 2012
That was the first time he did it, sometime last year. Now it’s a new situation.
Horselover Fat - January 7, 2012
When are white people going to catch a break?
I don’t think people realize how tough it is to be a white male living in America in 2011.
Ironbuddha - January 7, 2012
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