Strikeforce: Santos vs. Carano
The World of Women's MMA has had a few hours to digest the news that Cristiane 'Cyborg' Santos has failed her most recent PED test following her last fight against Hiroko Yamanaka in California at Strikeforce: Melendez vs. Masvidal.
Ronda Rousey has already made an "I told you so " comment we posted yesterday, but here is what some of WMMA's other top fighters had to say through the medium of twitter.
No#3 ranked 125lbs WMMA Fighter and qualified Osteopath at the Combat Sports Clinic Rosi Sexton pulls no punches and addresses the heart of the issue:
@RosiSexton
Rosi Sextonjust heard the news. That's a real shame, but I guess in honesty I'm not surprised.
let's be honest here though - she's by no means the only one.
increased chance of getting caught reduces offending more than tougher penalties. Better testing must come first.
I have a policy... I don't speculate about individual fighters until there's evidence.
I think it's a particular problem when it happens in WMMA. You may as well have a woman fighting a man.
either test properly, or legalise it so the rest of us can get on it with a clear conscience. Enough with the hypocrisy.
Look "just working hard in the gym" won't give a woman muscles like that any more than eating worms and flapping your arms will make you fly
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Strikeforce WMMA 135lbs Champion Miesha Tate takes the diplomatic approach:
@MieshaTate
Miesha Tate Have u guys heard about this? Wow... http://t.co/Qg8BHUEg
Ya..... I don't really know what to say, it's unfortunate she was using :-/
it's really unfortunate to find out she was using, I'm disappointed to say the least, I don't know what to say
Well I am disappointed to find out she was using I gave her the benefit of the doubt too & really admired her
I'd really like to hear what Cris has to say b4 I make any judgement
Well I personally choose to hear Cyborg out first, I will wait till she makes her statement to make mine.
Yes I am a woman myself I know very well but I still would like to hear her out
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Former 135lbs Champion Sarah Kaufman
Former 135lbs Champion (and former Cyborg opponent) Marloes Coenen
@MarloesCoenen
MarloesCoenen Get a lot of tweets about Christiana. Don't want to 'kick an opponent when she's down'. I still respect her & we will meet again at Invicta!
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145lbs fighter Julia Budd:
@JuliaBudd
Julia Budd "@BobbyERT: @JuliaBudd interesting things to come for the 145lbs division. Cyborg just tested positive for steroids." wtf r u serious?
I think cheating is cheating. That's bullshit she woulda killed yamanaka without
... I think it means I gotta make 135 next fight.
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@QoSBaszler
Shayna Baszler Im not defending cyborg or not, but its not always accurate how the media blows things up or paints things
RT @JoshLBarnett: Let's hear her piece. @jrcooner @JoshLBarnett what are your thoughts on Cyborg?
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Other notable fighters such as Gina Carano, Tara LaRosa and Liz Carmouche have yet to comment on twitter.
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Regarding Shayna Baszler’s tweet, how exactly are the media blowing things up? She got caught using anabolic steroids, I don’t see much scope for sensationalism there, she’s a cheater and she’s banned now, what exactly would she like MMA sites to say about it?
StevenGiles - January 7, 2012
Well, strictly speaking...
…trace-substances were found in her samples that indicate she has taken some sort of PED. If she did it on purpose, knowingly and to achieve an advantage in the cage or not is totally unclear. I agree her getting flagged is as surprising as it would be if they caught Overeem, Brock or Mir. Still though, if you want to be unbiased, she’s not automatically a cheater just because she’s been popped for PEDs.
KGNLuc - January 7, 2012
She tested positve for stanzonol
aka Winstrol.
Its pretty clear.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
She tested positive for the metabolites, which means there is proof of Stano being in her system.
Not the Stano itself. Still, it is 100% proof she had Steroids in her system leading up to her last fight.
Shotokanman - January 7, 2012
What more do you need
than a positive test for a known performance enhancing steroid?
That is to say nothing of her appearance.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
You mad??
i mean two replys on the same post? relax.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
I'm very far from mad
I have actually have stuff to do IRL and was finishing my thought.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Just went down through the posts and now i am convinced you are mad.
Every second or third post is yours.
As for Cyborg and her statement gald she actually owned up to it and never blamed the doc. She said it is my fault what goes into my body and it was my fault what happened. The build of a woman or man is a poor indicator of roid use, yet some still cling on to it.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
I'm actually having really nice morning
I’m just having fun debating a topic I find interesting.
I don’t care if you don’t know the natural differences between men and women.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
If i was not for snow and Shakespeare i would be having a nice day also. Fucking collage and weather.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Sorry to hear that
Shakespeare I can take. The snow is another story.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Meh
Been feed too much of it in the past few years. I do enjoy some of his plays, but lean more towards Sam Beckett, Conor Mcpherson, and David Mamet when reading for pleasure.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
You're going to fail if that's how you write
unambig - January 7, 2012
i have a B+ average after 3 and a half years of collage, so far so good.
Also, not graded here, therefore don’t care about mistakes aslong as it is can be read.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Ohhhhh, that's what you think
Chris Barton - January 7, 2012
You're still spelling college wrong, college boy
unambig - January 7, 2012
I thought
he had to make a collage.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
3 and 1/2 years
… what kind of freak, HUGE, collage is he making?
Chris Barton - January 7, 2012
Whatever it is
He’s got a B+ on it it so far.
In another three years he might get an A.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Head kick knockouts dating back to the mid 90's
It’s a project for college.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Yeah, i always fuck that up for some reason.
Not a multi tasker i guess, i blame Venus and Adonis, but yes still a common error i make when i don’t watch what i am doing.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
I just read her statement
She didn’t own up to it at all.
She said she is against PED’s yet used a diet supplement to lose weight.
Which explains why she tested positive specifically for a steroid used by weight restricted athletes to improve strength while cutting weight.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
people spend too much time trying to rationalize or not rationalize anything.
She is a cheater because she broke the rules, that’s it. I don’t care if she got the thing in her by accident, if she had a tainted supplement, if she drank steroids, if an alien came down and injected them into her in her sleep for the sole purpose of her failing the test. She failed the test, she’s suspended, she’s out, game over.
Phildo - January 7, 2012
I'd sympathize a little bit if aliens did it
unambig - January 7, 2012
They took errrr jawwwwbs!!!
Illegal aliens, especially!
rabble rabble rabble
glib_mf - January 7, 2012
Baszler RT Barnett is...
classic. The poster boy for anti-doping and fair play. I liken it to asking a fat chick if she thinks her diet made her fat.
derPhilth - January 7, 2012
It honestly sounds
Like some of these girls are using and don’t wanna say something about her only to get popped later.
Some really strange reactions from people who being completely fucked(if they were clean themselves).
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
She is clearly saying that she is willing to take steroids and only the commission is stopping her.
I know its hypothetical, but that’s pretty damn close to an admission.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Toughill
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
this could end up being the beginning of a debate to legalize. The failed war on juice & admit defeat then legislate the use of it. I’d be pro general use of it as long as it’s an open field. but if only certian guys have the edge it’s no fair
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
Yeah sure...
…because a debate in WMMA will make that happen.
KGNLuc - January 7, 2012
Not gonna happen
You do realize that steroids are federally banned and listed in the same category as cocaine and heroine, right? There’s no way they legalize.
Scott Whitaker - January 7, 2012
Without getting into politics
Ron Paul seems to think prohibition can be lifted.
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
perfect point
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
The perfect point
to prove it will never happen.
That’s like saying Aquaman thinks fish should be able to vote.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Ehh, not really
Alcohol had its prohibition lifted. Ostensibly other drugs currently prohibited can. The argument is for personal responsibility and accountability, and less government interference in individuals lives.
Even then, if all drugs were legal, sports commissions and bodies can still choose which are banned substances. Certain levels of Caffeine is banned in some sports still, levels that can be achieved by drinking a couple of cups of espresso coffee.
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
my point was
You shouldn’t take anything Ron Paul says as a likely possibility.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Ron Paul is the opiate of the libertarian masses
unambig - January 7, 2012
And poppies are the opium of the people
Skoobs - January 7, 2012
Ron Paul lives in his own world
If marijuana can’t be legalized, steroids will never be.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
the commissions can stop testing for it (not likely), but many jobs don’t test for many illegal drugs.
Phildo - January 7, 2012
We're talking about federally legal
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Ron Paul
Also lives in a world where he could get elected. We both know that this would never happen.
Scott Whitaker - January 8, 2012
No, they're not
Anabolic steroids are Schedule III Narcotics, cocaine is Schedule II (because the topical form is a prescription topical anesthetic for surgical use), and heroin is Schedule I.
ThisOneGoesToEleven - January 7, 2012
That is what I get for not reading down a thread first...
The American Ronin - January 10, 2012
Not true at all,
and for that matter cocaine and heroin are treated differently. Heroin is a Schedule 1, no accepted medical usage in the US, very high abuse potential. Cocaine is Schedule 2, triplicate prescription required (among other restrictions). Almost all anabolic steroids are Schedule 3, like codeine or Vicodin.
What is illegal however, is prescribing them as PEDs, (with no medical need).
The American Ronin - January 10, 2012
Many believe most are on it
Legalise it and everyone can be on it without the stigma attached to it. The history of drug testing even at the WADA Olympic level is interesting, since their original stance for banning PEDs was it was dangerous to the individual, and when it was proved this was rarely the case and only in extreme examples of abuse, they changed their stance to say it would create an uneven playing field. Nowadays supplements are so readily available, this isn’t the case, and the only difference between banned and unbanned or legal or illegal is a little bit or writing in some legislation somewhere.
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
My thing about women using AAS
Why even have a women’s division?
Why not call it the quasi-men’s league or something?
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Mixed Mixed Martial Arts? MMMA? Sounds good to me!
StevenGiles - January 7, 2012
Probably the same reason the men's division isn't called the super-men's division
It sounds retarded. With the way things have gone on in sports history, today’s banned substance is tomorrow’s legal supplement. It used to be against the rules to even train for the Olympics; you were expected to turn up and compete as you were, and that training beforehand was unfair. Sensibilities and attitudes change, particularly when money is involved.
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
When you have to drastically alter natural chemistry to compete
I think its time for said sensibilities to come into question.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
you are a student of the game
I believe you are pointing the arrow in the exact right direction
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
I don't see how banned vs unbanned plays into this
We’re talking about women having extremely high and unnatural levels of male hormones.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
I think we're talking about the bigger picture of PED use at large
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
I wasn't
I’m all for safe, smart PED use.
Women using AAS is neither.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
agreed
there are for more PED’s than AAS. And plenty of them would benefit women just as much, if not more (but in different ways) than AAS
OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 7, 2012
I agree
but at the same time I can’t help but think using is so dated. Maybe it’s my age, but if you can’t compete don’t. Don’t just use juice as a pair of crutches as if you are too disabled to live in the public eye with out drugs. Creatine does exactly what juice does interms of mass, it just takes longer, & cycling not continuous use
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
That's never going to happen
What do you think would happen to World and Olympic athletics if records stop being broken? The possibility of athletes breaking speed and strength records is what gets most of the people to buy a ticket or sit down and watch. If it was just about countries competing, the Olympics would die unless the most commercially viable audience country was the one that won everything. Only Jamaica cares that Usain Bolt wins gold medals. The rest of the world cares when he breaks records. Big difference, and a big issue.
I’m not accusing Bolt of being on PEDs, I’m just illustrating what keeps people watching and what keeps the money flowing enough for athletics to survive.
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
Baseball was way more popular when you had jacked monster knocking everything out of the park, but people knew it was ridiculous. Believe or not, there were actually players who didn’t want to use who spoke up against it.
Low and behold, 10 years later HR’s are down across the league and testing is still getting better.
Even the NFL is stepping up their PED policy.
Its not like everyone is really willing to turn a blind eye no matter how unnatural the athletes become.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Personally I don't care if Baseball players use
It’s football players, boxers, and mixed martial artists that I worry about.
discoandherpes - January 7, 2012
This isn’t even close to being true.
M.Sphinx - January 7, 2012
I meant in terms of mass, not just strength. I’ve had success in cycling creatine & gaining 10’s everytime going back on. My life went to crap before I could get to the third cycle, but starting at 175 & end up at 195 was ok. The deal is, the leaner you stay, the more lean mass you gain in that 10lbs. & one of the biggest boosts from juice is that it fires up your appetite so you can feul your body. But that is where cyanocobalamine comes in cuz it can end up making you eat 8 meals easy in a day.
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
Creatine increases water retention, giving you the illusion of mass.
Cycling creatine is a bit controversial. I tend to be in the camp that thinks it’s worthless to cycle over continuous use.
I do agree it’s probably one of the most useful supplements to take. You lift more, and you obviously gain muscle by doing so, just not as much as you think.
M.Sphinx - January 7, 2012
It can fuck up kidneys and such as well
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Pissing like a horse is not fun.
M.Sphinx - January 7, 2012
If abused enough it can lead to failure as well. A friend of mine was into that shit pretty heavy and started to get lower back pains, went to the doc and was told what he was taking was killing his kidneys. He almost killed his liver with roids and shit as well so safe to say he never really learned his lession
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Creatine does make you stronger
and gives you more muscular endurance.
Creatine works by helping the body produce and use more ATP, which is the energy molecule responsible and necessary for most active processes in the body. Including muscle contraction and active transport of nutrients.
Its not some show muscle weight gain shake.
If you gain size and weight, that is mass. Not an illusion.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
It’s not functional muscle. Just grapple with a guy who is heavy into that stuff. Thought when the guy got my neck he was going to rip my head off, but that was not the case. I mean the guy was not weak, but not as strong as his muscles would make on think.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Matt Hughes
and many other strength athletes disagree.
Along with many clinical trials.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
I've read it's something like a maximum increase of VERY low percentages.
So for people that work in milliseconds (Swimmers and runners) it actually does make a difference, because that .03% increase in performance can mean the difference between gold and silver.
People punching each other out for 15 minutes? I’m inclined to think not so much.
Shotokanman - January 7, 2012
For weight lifters
It allows you to do more sets.
I’ve felt the difference myself many times and its been documented in studies.
I will say, not all creatine is the same and not all people respond the increase in ATP the same way, but many athletes swear by it.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Wouldn't making sure you have an abundant chemical energy supply to burn for 15 minutes be more effective?
Shotokanman - January 7, 2012
They do both
And no, just consuming more food doesn’t help the body increase ATP past a certain point and it also doesn’t help the body break it down better.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Which creatine does?
Shotokanman - January 7, 2012
I meant athletes do both
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Ane not just more food, but "High Octane" food?
Shotokanman - January 7, 2012
Even then
Creatine allows our bodies to use that fuel better.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Interesting.
Shotokanman - January 8, 2012
You're talking about one person
A really stupid person at that.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Have played a number of sports with guys who were on the same shit. See them at the gym? Throw weights around like pillows on a bed. Get into a battle on the boards for a puck? weak as fuck. They are strong, just does not seem to be functional.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Full disclosure
I’ve taken AAS while training.
My functional strength levels were through the roof compared to when I wasn’t cycling.
Its all in how you train.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Which could very well be
I’m just saying the guys i have run into who have been on it could not translate their gym strengh into functional strengh.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
To clarify a bit
Genetic females having (extremely)high test levels is very unnatural and unhealthy. Women have ten times less T than men and are much more receptive to it. For a reason.
The concept of banned vs unbanned supplements isn’t the issue here. The issue is a woman having a test level above the allowed limit(which is 4 times higher than average, for the men at least).
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
I think you might have to start turning the channel
when sports comes on, cuz the anti war movement just turned into the establishment. My last hope is that they start making an next gen of anavar that is gentler on chicks, cuz I like em meaty
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
I'm the last guy to ever be anti-drugs
I’ve admitted to using AAS myself.
But when a woman can take a substance that completely changes her physical make up to that extreme, I think something is wrong.
We should let the men use bionics. Why not, right?
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
I'm right with you dude
the deal is though, it’s the whole move of the cultural change. The way you talk I know things are brewing in you till you get more of an eagle’s eye view. But this is no different than no fitness clubs till Arnold started the trend, now it’s peaking. heavy metal peaked fast & dropped. hip hop is soon too peak I believe. it’s the growth of culture & society as if it were a family in growing pains. It makes no sense but we people always learn the hard way.
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
Just like Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire
When it gets to be too much, people will say they’ve had enough.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
pretty much the inside joke
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
Jordan Breen
He makes a pretty damn great argument for steroids and why people shouldn’t get so uppity about them. You should go take a listen. I guarantee if steroids were legalized the HUGE majority of athletes would all use them and the ones that wouldn’t would soon be obsolete and then be force to quite or start using themselves to keep up
Hemoplata - January 7, 2012
I don;t see how that's a good argument for them
If anything, its simple and obvious.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
it's not about a good arguement though
it’s just trends
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
How is that fair to people who don't want to inject that shit into their system?
Especially in a sport where you can potentially die from a steroid freak punching you in the face who can train longer because of the drugs.
discoandherpes - January 7, 2012
not only
is that a completely obvious and banal statement, it’s also the exact reason why steroids should remain illegal, and testing should become much stricter.
Propperly administered steroids may not be as bad for the athlete’s health as they are usually made out to be, but they certainly aren’t harmless, either. These men and women put enough strain on their bodies already just by choosing to compete in a very physical sport. There is no reason they should be effectively forced to do further harm to themselves by using steroids. Also, in the case of women, it makes them look like fucking freaks. I bet you 90% of the (few) chicks even considering a career in WMMA would immediately drop the idea if they knew they had to look like fucking Cyborg in order to be able to compete.
buuuurps - January 7, 2012
Steroids are amazing for healing injuries.
M.Sphinx - January 7, 2012
Not abuse
And there is a huge link between AAS use and soft tissue injuries.
Not only that, AAS use in women is dangerous and unhealthy.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Breen has stated that that's his personal view on steriods
but that if it’s going to be enforced it should be enforced properly.
UncleMax - January 7, 2012
Nice catch
unambig - January 7, 2012
I don't feel sorry for her at all.....
Any fighter that wants to used any type of banned substance not approved by the santioning body should be fined and/or suspended.
I’ve enjoyed watching Cyborg fight but to me this is inexcusable….
jack knight starman - January 7, 2012
Note that she is retweeting Josh Barnett.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
Haha, perfect
unambig - January 7, 2012
for Rosi to say that a woman can't get that big by eating worms,
well obviously she doesn’t understand female physiology
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
@rosie sexton
“i think it’s a particular problem when it happens in WMMA. you may as well have a woman fighting a man.”
so would a man taking steroids be a double-man?
heymanhowsitgoing - January 7, 2012
he would be a man's man
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
He would be like his own father
StevenGiles - January 7, 2012
We already have it. It’s called “marriage.” Dudes don’t stand a chance.
( . Y . ) - January 7, 2012
She's completely right
Some men naturally have very high test, some don’t. But it is natural for men to have some very significant amount of testosterone. That’s what’s gives us our manly characteristics.
Women are women because of the hormones in their bodies, too.
If you alter those hormones to be much closer to a man’s, that woman is now much closer to being a man than a 12 year old boy is.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
they should admit they are more than impotent to need drugs
you can’t do it on your own, lol. sure for recreation use it but for athletes to compete using juice is like admitting you need viagra cuz you’re impotent
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
well, sure
but steroids enhances EVERYBODY. if a child took it, he/she would be that much beefier than a non-using child. if a man used it, he’d be that much beefier than a non-using man. saying “if a woman used it, she’d be like a man” is not a biased, unobjective argument. that’s all i’m saying.
heymanhowsitgoing - January 7, 2012
* is a biased
heymanhowsitgoing - January 7, 2012
You don't understand
and that’s okay.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
ah, i love the internet
heymanhowsitgoing - January 7, 2012
Well said Rosie Sexton
birds and flappin and all that good stuff
ODBasyoucansee - January 7, 2012
ROIDS!!
RECE ROCK - January 7, 2012 via mobile
hemma
lol
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
Repetitive Miesha is repetitive
Cunny - January 7, 2012
She was responding to different people on twitter
I tried to keep it simple and condensed by putting the relevant tweets only
KJ Gould - January 7, 2012
Ah
Thought it was one long tweet
I worried she was a nutcase
Cunny - January 7, 2012
It’s called ‘staying on message’
Steve4192 - January 7, 2012
Holy sh*t
Check out the muscles of Julia Budd…. Quote of the day: "Look “just working hard in the gym won’t give a woman muscles like that any more than eating worms and flapping your arms will make you fly”.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see her getting caught as well. (yes i know i’m jumping to conclusions without solid evidence, but it’s suspicious to say the least.)
Matthi - January 7, 2012
that's why it's best to play the middle
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
Exactly
Cyborg was really pushing the whole “reasonable doubt” thing.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
cyborg, Mcguire, Bonds
may be the sacrificial lambs to put legalization over the top, a type of breaking from innocence like starting to go for benders every weekend, then weds too, then Thurs etc
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
It went the other way
The MLB rarely tested and had basically no penalty for cheating.
Now they’ve come a long way in testing and the penalties are much tougher and get tougher every year. Although, they still don’t discourage everyone because its not a serious suspension until like the 2nd or 3rd time getting caught.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
In Budd's defense
She’s fitness expert and has dedicated her life to it. But no, I wouldn’t be surprised at all either.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
If you come from a fitness or bodybuilding background I’d say you’re even more suspicious. Phil Baroni-esque.
Matthi - January 7, 2012
You're right
I just don’t wanna pile on the accusations.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
seriously
that picture of her is impressive/gross. But mostly gross
OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 7, 2012
imagine waking up next to THAT… must feel like waking up in prison
Matthi - January 7, 2012
bet she gives a mean handy
OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 8, 2012
they call her the white knuckler
Matthi - January 8, 2012
call me bad but
I love chicks with some green skin
liptondrift - January 7, 2012
im just hoping cris has a great answer to all this if not she can always pull a black bush
Mac Marley - January 7, 2012
"Oil? What? Huh?"
Shotokanman - January 7, 2012
after a brief pause
I got the Chapelle show reference. But at first I was like, why are you talking about her underwear blanket
OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 8, 2012
Cyborg responded to the situation by claiming that all she took is dietary supplements because she was having a difficult weight cut before the fight
Robert V-U - January 7, 2012
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/1/7/2689892/cristiane-cyborg-santos-releases-statement-on-failed-steroid-test
Robert V-U - January 7, 2012
Even if that is true
Which I don’t believe, as a fighter part of your job is knowing what substances are going to make you piss hot. That is no real excuse.
discoandherpes - January 7, 2012
That's exactly what she said in her statement lol.
av1o3 - January 7, 2012
haha
Robert V-U - January 7, 2012
What a crock
She tested positive for a steroid known to be abused in weight cutting sports.
What a coincidence?!
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
technically not a lie
Winstrol is a dietary supplement, and it does help you cut weight. Perhaps a bit of double speak…..?
OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 8, 2012
This is the moment I started suspecting Cyborg was juicing
Her slamming a guy who weighs at least 220 pounds.
av1o3 - January 7, 2012
When she tapped to a guillotine?
That doesn’t even close to resemble a slam. Lifting 220 off the ground one foot isn’t a very big deal.
Scott Whitaker - January 7, 2012
either...
they are oiled up or the rest of the mat around them is dusty lol
Chris WhiteDynamite Bielanski - January 7, 2012
That mat is pretty disgusting lol
av1o3 - January 7, 2012
Guillotine?
And it is a big deal considering she’s a 145’er and from the position she picked him up from.
av1o3 - January 7, 2012
lmao...it's a new kind of guilotine
when I saw her destroy yamawhatever last fight I was like this bitch dont belong fighting other women…
Chris WhiteDynamite Bielanski - January 7, 2012
I just thought, damn that Japanese fighter is horrible
unambig - January 7, 2012
Actually i would peg her more around the 165 or so there. I have a feeling she cuts a fuck ton of weight.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
LOL
I meant triangle. I don’t know why I said guillotine.
Scott Whitaker - January 8, 2012
Me = fail
Scott Whitaker - January 8, 2012
I love how
When marquardt did steroids all his peers completely shitted on him on twitter and in interviews, but when cyborg does it her peers are so understanding an nonjudgemental. I guess This shows the virtue and compassion of the gentler sex. Or they’re just all afraid of catching another Cyborg asswhooping
MuyThaiGroinAssault - January 7, 2012 via iPhone app
Because WMMA is largely irrelevant and has such a small group of fighters, why risk burning the few bridges you have as a competitor.
UncleMax - January 7, 2012
Well he got popped twice. Up until now the only “proof” people had of her “use” was a jaw line.=, which is pretty fucking silly. I always give fighters the benifit of the doubt, and more so when dealing with the CASC. They are the same ones who fucked up Sherk’s test.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Her jaw is secondary
To her completely unnatural physique and extreme aggression which we’ve never seen in another female fighter.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
SO beating the shit out of the person you are fighting now leads to roid abuse??
Also look at the camp she comes from, so far the only woman i have seen come from there. Check out a site, counter balance fitness i think it is, the head trainer is a beast and she is does not take anything. She has that kind of build because she trains like crazy.
Riley_96 - January 7, 2012
Again
She was clearly unnaturally muscular and lean for even a female professional athlete.
I’ve never accused one other person of using, but she was way too obvious.
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
I started having my suspicions
When it looked like she was wearing a cup.
ScoreCardOTN - January 7, 2012 via mobile
Haters goona hate
Chris Barton - January 7, 2012
Guilty as charged
TheFilt - January 7, 2012
That's awesome
av1o3 - January 7, 2012
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UncleMax - January 7, 2012
Break the walls down
RECE ROCK - January 7, 2012 via mobile
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Sugel Mendoza - January 7, 2012
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