Bloody Elbow

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I’d like a source on this if possible. Genuinely curious if this is true or not.

M.Sphinx - January 7, 2012 reply

i'm being sarcastic

So was I.

M.Sphinx - January 7, 2012 reply

I believe that was a joke.

xx

GutenDirk - January 7, 2012 reply

Fail

Chris Hall - January 7, 2012 reply

Awesome.

Tim Burke - January 7, 2012 reply

I can also turn it into a Win

Chris Hall - January 7, 2012 reply

.

Keep these coming, everyone. Steroids are old and busted, quantum tunneling cats are the new hotness

Tedd Welch - January 7, 2012 reply

...

No kidding

I was having trouble losing weight, and I got busted for a drug is specifically known for its ability to let you lose weight/fat but not strength. Nothing to see here, move along.

OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 7, 2012 reply

Stanozolol

aka Winstrol is a CUTTING agent. It helps pull water out of your system and gives you a lean physique, as opposed to a bulky physique. Taking Winstrol to lose weight and get ripped makes sense

Ok

I can’t remember what he took now, but is this the same stuff Alves got popped for?

I don't think so

Alvarez was busted for a straight diuretic, wiki says Spironolactone.

Ok

cool was wondering. I knew he was taking something to help lose weight.

Stanzolol was what Bonnar got popped for a few years back. I think that Leben was too.

MicahtheCynic - January 7, 2012 reply

They need blood testing for this shit

Sure she got nailed and deserves everything that is coming her way, but from everything i have read about piss testing is does not give a true picture of what is in a person’s system at one time.

OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 7, 2012 reply

It's strange too

bc (and I’m just assuming here) that someone with as much history and knowledge on the subject as her, would get caught by a PISS test. That stuff is pretty easy to get out of your system in the kind of quantities that urine tests can detect.

Something unrelated but kind of interesting, in Brazil steroids are very popular with women.

I have one hypothesis

For the short time the WWE was courting her she could have been bulking up like crazy. Then once she resigned with Strikeforce she had to get the weight off quick, thus turned to shit she was unsure about. Took it without looking into it and hoped for the best.

OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 7, 2012 reply

That's actually possible but

it was announced a while ago that she had signed a new contract. And with Winstol itself being a diuretic agent, it has a decently short half-life. So it should have been out of her system pretty rapidly. She might have upped the dosage to drop some fast weight and preserve muscle mass for this fight. Who knows

I was thinking, now could be wrong, that she figured she do a little carido it would slim her down, once she got so close to fight time (say a month out) she started to panic. Looked for the best weigh cutting agent she could find and did not want to take time to have it checked out.

I would say “did not have time”, but there should always be time to get this stuff checked out. Also, she probably did not want to pull out seeing as it was her first pay cheque in ages.

Sure.

Hey, I got a couple bridges for sale, you interested?

Shotokanman - January 7, 2012 reply

You could probably get away with only piss testing

If there was legitimate threat that you would be randomly tested any time of the year. Zuffa/UFC could wreck the PED thing pretty quickly with a few million a year tops. They have 400 fighters under contract, a drug test costs something like $200. They could guarantee that every fighter was tested at least once a year at a random time (400 tests). Then have a random number generator decide to test 20% of the fighters under contract every month (960 tests), and then test them the day they sign a fight contract (~600 tests) and you’re talking about 2000 tests per year=$400k, say $500k for the sake of round numbers.

Designate say 100 testing centers around the world that fighters have to get to, figure getting those relationships/infrastructure in place costs you a $mil on top. 5 people making $100k to manage this thing (I have no idea what would be so complicated but whatever), another $500k. A $mil in travel costs for those guys and you’re up to $3 mil total. What would I be missing? And if fighters can’t stay within a 47 hour trip to the 100 biggest centers of MMA in the world, then they need to move. Sure it’d be a hassle, but deal with it.

Who in their right mind is going to be juicing when they are expecting to get tested at least two times randomly + when they sign for a fight + any commission testing. $3 million to practically kill (detectable anyway…) PED use has to be worth it from a business perspective right?

But who wants that when “IT’S THE COMMISSION’S PROBLEM DAMNIT.”

Yeah, that could work as well

but to dodge all of that i believe blood testing would be best. Random testing would help to cut down on it though.

Plus it would be nice if they would test for HGH, which is only detectable in blood testing.

Bolshevik - January 7, 2012 reply

Yeah that too.

As much as i love Sonnen, blood testing would kill the whole TRT excuse as well. We would find out who really has an issue and who just wants the extra juice.

OneFitchTwoFitchRedFitchBlueFitch - January 7, 2012 reply

true

there could be guys who have hormones out of whack and do not know it, which could help them. it would make everything a lot more fair.

Andy Anderson - January 8, 2012 reply

it can also function as a masking agent

Just saying

Schwizzles - January 7, 2012 via mobile reply

no

the stuff Alves took just takes water out of your skin and system so you pee all the time. The stuff she was taking allows you to put on lean muscle mass while at the same time shedding excess water. It’s generally what people use in cycles when they’re getting ready for shows and/or when it’s beach season. Not a bulker, just hard striated muscles, with thin skin to show them off.

I don't know nothing about roids so

Can you take winstrol and just lose weight while doing circuit training & cardio… And it basically will just rip you up but not add mass? Kinda the anti steroid?

RECE ROCK - January 7, 2012 via mobile reply

winny has anabolic properties

Its not as powerfully Anabolic as deca or some others, but if you’ve never done a cycle and you use it, you can actually gain some mass while also burning fat, which is just ridiculous.

Schwizzles - January 7, 2012 via mobile reply

Men's league

She’ll be back to fight for Aldo’s title when the suspension ends

Bonerman - January 7, 2012 reply

All I care is seeing Cyborg kick Rhonda's ass and big mouth.

daftshadow - January 7, 2012 reply

No, just cut Cyborg.

Rousey vs. Carano for the title can save the division.

McKinley B. Noble - January 7, 2012 reply

Do you want Gina to get a scar on her other arm too?

This

Is EXACTLY why I refuse to shop at GNC anymore, all those tainted supplements kept making jacked with their hidden steroids!

troyd - January 7, 2012 reply

I know this is joking, but the reality is that there is no one regulating the shit they sell at GNC. If you are goin gto be drug tested you need to know exactly what you are putting into your body.

Phildo - January 7, 2012 reply

Manborg!

Lame excuse, obvious BS. Wonder if this pleases those oh so friendly female fighters who wanted to hear her side of the story before casting judgment?

Guyborg had to try and put a positive spin on it…

Danthemmaman - January 7, 2012 reply

Horslever, stop trying to make Manborg happen. It's not going to happen.

(Guyborg is way more fetch)

Balrog - January 7, 2012 reply

I think that's the first Mean Girls reference

I’ve ever seen in the Bloody Elbow comments. Nicely done, Balrog.

I think that's the first

acknowledgement of having watched Mean Girls I’ve seen on Bloody Elbow Mr. Smith. And for the record, yes I saw it, and yes it was decent. I mean, if you’re not in love with Lizzy Caplan I don’t know what to tell you.

David Castillo - January 7, 2012 reply

All heterosexual males should have watched that movie. It was back when Lindsay Lohan was still a redhead, curvy, teenager, and in general hot as fuck. GREAT MOVIE!

Here's the thing about Mean Girls

It was marketed all wrong: They promoted it as “Lindsay Lohan is the hot new girl in school!” And that made it sound lame, which is why I never saw it in the theater and had no interest in seeing it on DVD.

But then a friend gave me the DVD and I figured what the hell, and it was great — and nothing at all like the ads suggested. It was great writing from Tina Fey, great acting from Rachel McAdams and Lizzy Caplan, a really funny performance in a small role by Tim Meadows, and more.

The way to market that movie should have been, “Tina Fey has written a biting satire of high school politics.” But that was before Tina Fey was big and Linday Lohan was the star, and they made it look like a dumb movie for dumb teenagers. And it’s not that at all.

It is a great movie

Our Bovine Public - January 7, 2012 reply

Yeah

I got my hands on the DVD a while back and was shocked at how much I really liked it. The gay dude and that gothic chick really made it for me.

SentientAndroid - January 7, 2012 reply

I know

It’s perfectly acceptable for a man to enjoy flicks like mean girls, chocolat, sisterhood of the traveling pants.

Oooh, hot dogs are done. Brokeback mountain, here I come!

axewounded - January 8, 2012 via iPhone app reply

someone sounds insecure...

Andy Anderson - January 8, 2012 reply

Just don't watch number two.

James Brady - January 8, 2012 reply

for the record

I made one on a live blog the other day and no-one got it. I was glad at the time cus I thought I would be judged

I still think Manborg is better. You guys are assholes.

Yeah well the jerk store called...

unambig - January 7, 2012 reply

How about Bjornborg?

Hey, it’s better than Guyborg!

McKinley B. Noble - January 7, 2012 reply

At this point

With Carano most likely not coming back and now Cyborg suspended for 1 year they will probably on do 135lb fights for the rest of the Showtime contract and then just end it and let Bellator or whoever else run womens mma.

bigdmmafan - January 7, 2012 reply

She'll be able to make 135..

Once she’s off the juice and loses some of that ~~man~~ muscle mass.

Danthemmaman - January 7, 2012 reply

Doubt it.

If she was using steroids just to cut to 145, she’ll die cutting to 135.

or she could just lose bulk. Changing weight classes is not always about cutting weight. People taller than Cyborg can make 135, she probably could, but it would take a lot of work.

Phildo - January 7, 2012 reply

This would be shitty if it were true, but it sounds like a lot of excuses.

If you were taking steroids, just admit it. Telling the truth isn’t going to make the situation any worse than it already is.

Warbreezy - January 7, 2012 reply

Has any athlete ever done that?

I can’t think of anyone, ever, who just said, “Yes, I was cheating, period.” Usually even when they admit it they have some kind of excuse like, “But I was only doing it to help recover from an injury because I love the sport so much and wanted to get back out there for my fans.”

McGwire basically did when he came back as a hitting coach

Wait, we're not here to talk about the past...

duck - January 7, 2012 reply

I think Chris Leben admitted to it and said he was being stupid, when he got popped for roids after the Bisping fight.

Yeah Leben is about as close as it gets to a full-on admission

McGwire stonewalled for years before coming clean, and even then I thought his claims about when he started and when he stopped seemed implausible.

Hermes Franca has admitted that he did cheat.

dancingChicken - January 7, 2012 reply

Stand up guy

Pedo

unambig - January 7, 2012 reply

Yeah but Hermes claimed he used because of an ankle injury

Even when he admitted it he kind of tried to make an excuse for it.

Well he probably did

the things is he should have pulled out of the fight, but he decided to cheat and fight anyway.

Tim Sylvia straight up admitted it.

Tim Burke - January 7, 2012 reply

I don't really see the downside of being honest.

We all know you did it, just tell us the truth and you earn back a little respect. Everybody understands the pressure to cheat, so just show some humility.

Warbreezy - January 7, 2012 reply

This

I was very impressed that Thiago manned up and said he set out to cheat and deceive

Cunny - January 7, 2012 reply

Thiago Silva eventually admitted to using after first denying it.

Tedd Welch - January 7, 2012 reply

Sylvia.

TheLastEmpress - January 7, 2012 reply

That wouldn’t work. Mcgwire admitted use, still looked at as a scumbag. Franca admitted use, had to serve the full suspension, everyone else that has fought CA (as far as I remember) has had their suspension reduced.

Phildo - January 7, 2012 reply

Thank Science!

Through a miracle of chemistry, it was just a diet pill that somehow metabolized into a compound that appeared to be a steroid used specifically for cutting weight.

Good thing, otherwise it would have looked she was taking steroids.

I'm not sure she was saying that all she took was a diet pill that magically turned into steroids.

But that she took a supplement that she wasn’t aware had steroids in it, and didn’t bother to ask any questions.

Warbreezy - January 7, 2012 reply

Highly, highly

highly unlikely that there’s a diet pill out there containing stanozolol.

If there was it would say same to effect of anabolic steroid on the bottle.

There are, however, legal supplements that will metabolize into banned substances after enter the blood stream.

Christ

I need to eat lunch…

If there was, it would say something to the effect of “anabolic steroid” on the bottle.

There are, however, legal supplements that will metabolize into banned substances after entering the blood stream.

Because when you want to LOSE weight

you take stanozol. I believe her, I don’t know why… but something about her story checks out.

Sir Smoke-A-Lot - January 7, 2012 reply

While I was preparing myself for my last fight I was having a difficult time cutting weight and used a dietary supplement

Yeah it makes sense

but still does not cover why an athlete would not get this shit checked out before even dreaming about putting it in ones body. T Silva same thing, used something he was not sure of them tried to cover it up.

Total sarcasm but I suppose it IS a cutting agent. However, stanozol/winstrol does not equal dietary supplement. I would say there’s quite a huge difference between a steroid and something one would call a "dietary supplement.

Sir Smoke-A-Lot - January 7, 2012 reply

I think everyone here would agree

Its called ‘lying’.

Cyborg’s doing it.

Steroid excuses are always entertaining.

I think she would have found better success in the deficient testicles excuse.

Sir Smoke-A-Lot - January 7, 2012 reply

See someone could not be telling the truth, yet at the same time be wrong.

She calls it what she does because that’s what she was using it as. She made the supid mistake of not getting it checked out for banned substances before using it. Sherk took a polygraph and passed because he was telling the truth about his knowledge of what he was doing.

Either way she still cheated, so the shit storm to follow is her fault.

Could Be telling the truth

I don’t know, but personally I don’t get why all these dietary supplement manufacturers are so cavalier about adding controlled substances to their products. You never hear about cough syrup manufacturers putting heroin in their stuff on accident.

toxic - January 7, 2012 reply

Actually i take blood pressure meds and when i was piss tested for a oil feild job when i told them i take that medication they said i may fail due to a banned substance. Also poppy seeds can cost you a job that requires a piss test as well, makes you test positive for herion

I have been taking Blood pressure meds since i was 8 and when i wanted to take something to help me with work outs i asked about protein powders and other types of supplements i was told that a great deal of them have a lot of stuff that, to someone with regular kidney fuction probably would not matter, is really hard for the body to deal with. After being told it was not an option for me i stopped looking into these things so i am sure someone here who knows a ton more than i do.

Now it could also be the doctors were just being careful and not allowing me to take anything, but i asked a number of times and got the same answer.

The amount of actual poppy in a poppy seed is so miniscule

you’d have to eat a truckload of them to piss hot.

OmoPlata - January 7, 2012 reply

Not according to the testers.

When you set up the apointment for the test they ask have you ate a poppy seed bagel in the past 2 weeks. If you answer yes they tell you to call back because they fear you will fail. Also, while you work out there they tell you to avoid at all costs (some do others do not care) because if you have an incident you have to be pissed tested right away and if you fail you are fired on the spot and banned from getting a job on the sites for a year or more depending on how bad the accident is.

Right

It’s a liability issue. If you prove they screwed the pooch only because you ate a poppy seed bagel, they are going to be on the hook for a massive lawsuit that cost you reputation, salary etc. Just the threat of that means they make damn sure to avoid even the slightest hint of that crap excuse.

higgledy-piggledy - January 7, 2012 reply

Good

I’d be pissed if that Seinfeld episode was inaccurate

Cunny - January 7, 2012 reply

No.

From Wikipedia:

“…it would require about 100 poppy seed bagels to reach enough to cause a positive (failed) test result at normal cutoffs”

also:

“NIDA 5 test, which was raised from 300 ng/mL to 2,000 ng/mL in 1998 in order to avoid such false positives from poppy seeds”

OmoPlata - January 9, 2012 reply

“poppy seeds do not serve as an alibi for heroin: a unique metabolite (6-monoacetylmorphine) is produced from heroin use that is never produced from consuming any other substance, let alone poppy seeds. Modern tests can thus readily determine whether it was heroin, should someone try to claim he merely ate poppy seeds.”

OmoPlata - January 9, 2012 reply

OMG, I Called It Perfectly

In the article first announcing she got caught, I wrote “Anyone wanna guess how long it will take for her to blame tainted nutritional supplements? Anything except it was her fault and she knowingly took them.”
Well, it didn’t take her long for that predictionm to pan out. I knew she wouldn’t own up to it. How many athletes (especially baseball players) blame the ol’ tainted supplements problem at the time they’re caught, and then in their memoires admit they knew they were taking steroids? Quite a few. Man, where can I get some of those supplements that will give me a body as ripped as hers?

DerSpiegel - January 7, 2012 reply

Wow, her english got really good!! :)

Heel-Hook - January 7, 2012 reply

Yep, did the PEDs help her English as well?

She'll probably make 135, after her new-found genitalia shrink back to woman size

after she is off the juice for a year!

What makes you think she'll quit?

She might juice harder than ever knowing she won’t be tested.

In which case Overeem/JDS better watch the fuck out!!

Nobody want's her back.

She’s IMBA.

blodpalt - January 7, 2012 reply

OK, then provide the name, manufacturer, and a sample.

Oh…OK, that’s what I thought.

MadNachos - January 7, 2012 reply

Whew, well I guess that settles everything.

Zachary Kater - January 7, 2012 reply

This is an unbelievably un-original excuse

Is there ever someone who has pissed hot and just admitted 'Yeah I was juicing'

It seems like it’s always some dietary supplement, or something they took to try and lose weight or cope with an injury or something.

It seems like nobody that pops is ever just plain ole’ cheating…according to THEMSELVES at least.

Something doesn’t add up.

Chris Groves - January 7, 2012 reply

Syliva

He wanted abs.

Ricardo Arguello - January 7, 2012 reply

Oh okay then.

Chris Groves - January 7, 2012 reply

Thiago Silva admitted to it

He used it to help his back.

His was a little different

He never got popped for roids, he submitted fake piss.

Ricardo Arguello - January 7, 2012 reply

it was inevitable. He submitted fake pee and he was going to get caught with his own hot piss.

He admitted to drug use before he was actually caught with it

Actually IIRC he said that he learned after the stuff he used was fair game.

Just it was too late when he found out.

.

Johnathan Willis - January 7, 2012 reply

Is this seriously being debated????

Dietary supplements don’t turn women into men, she has pecks, bulging veins/muscles, her neck is wider than her head, and her voice is even deep lol seriously was anyone surprised??? I sure as hell wasn’t, I thought it as painfully obvious since I first saw her!!!

Mr.Italiano - January 7, 2012 reply

I thought for sure she'd use Chael's excuse.

Awesome!

Shotokanman - January 7, 2012 reply

she doesnt need a womens division

just bring her over to the mens featherweight division in the ufc, put her in the cage with kenflo, i think he’d get beat down

Randy Daytona - January 7, 2012 via Android app reply

There is a huge difference between a dietary aid and a steroid. Shut the f-up.

evenflow10 - January 7, 2012 via mobile reply

This type of statement by everybody that gets popped needs to stop

“I didn’t know what I was taking”, “I didn’t know it was a banned substance”, ect, ect, ect

It’s a bullshit excuse. You’re a professional athlete. It’s YOUR responsibility to ensure what you are doing is within the guidelines. There are ways to ensure what you’re taking isn’t banned.

If you don’t know what is in something or are going to use something that you haven’t used before, do more than just take it. Regardless of who gives it to you or prescribes it. Get in touch your manager, doctor, promoter AND the commission… Yes ALL of these people, preferably in the same email thread. Send them the name of what you’re thinking about taking and a list of all the ingredients, then WAIT to hear back from them ALL, before you take it.

This isn’t that hard. You’re a pro, you know better. Coming out with a statement of ignorance after getting caught is garbage.

soilworker - January 7, 2012 reply

Shit, I was just an amateur athlete

Powerlifting, wrestling, sports an general fitness. Took lots of supplements. Kept a strict diet. Could tell you within an 8th of a pound what I weighed at any moment. I knew all the ingredients of every single thing I put in my body.

There’s no way people who are professional athletes are less conscientious than I was. Just fucking admit you cheated, Cyborg.