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UFC 143: Undefeated Stephen Thompson Hopes To Make Case For Karate In MMA

Photo via Alchemist Management.

Photo via Alchemist Management.

Welterweight UFC rookie Stephen Thompson (5-0 MMA, 57-0 Kickboxing) is hoping to continue his streak of 62 wins in 62 pro fights at UFC 143. He'll face another UFC n00b in Dan Stittgen (7-1) on the Facebook preliminaries for UFC 143. The 28-year-old Thompson is carrying a pretty heavy hype burden coming into the Octagon. Georges St. Pierre's striking coach Firas Zahabi recently called Thompson "definitely the best karate guy, the best striker I've ever seen, all around in any sport."

He's no one trick pony either, a black belt in Japanese jujitsu, he trains Tetsushin Ryu Jiu-Jitsu under his brother-in-law the legendary Carlos Machado and claims that wrestling is his 2nd strongest skill set.

Mike Chiappetta of MMA Fighting wrote about Thompson's Lyoto Machida-like childhood as the son of a karate instructor:

Thompson started in the martial arts at three years old, training under his father, Ray, who owns a karate studio in Simpsonville, South Carolina. But it wasn't always a love affair. By around the age of 10 or 11, the flame had burned out. While his friends were playing baseball and football, Thompson found himself constantly stuck at the dojo.
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By the time he was 15, he was making his amateur debut, inspired in part by his older sister Lindsay, who he often watched compete and aimed to emulate.

He did her proud, defeating an unbeaten 26-year-old en route to 37 straight victories. His biggest personal highlight came in 2005, when he captured a World Association of Kickboxing Organizations championship at a tournament held in Szeged, Hungary, becoming the first American to win a gold in the tournament since 1983.

Thompson knew he would need to transition to MMA to really test himself and began training with UFC welterweight champ GSP after St. Pierre cornered one of Thompson's many kickboxing victims. Since recovering from an ACL tear he's been training with Zahabi in Canada.

Thompson was also ranked #10 in the 2012 Bloody Elbow Scouting Report. Here's what Leland and Smoogy had to say about him:

There is some mystery surrounding Thompson's progression, mainly due to the lack of footage of MMA action, but from secondary accounts I've been able to gather - there is a buzz surrounding Thompson. Most fans who've seen him in action agree that he has the goods to make an eventual run at a top-tier promotion, and they've even likened his style to that of Lyoto Machida.

Thompson's credentials are awe-inspiring, and the fanatical fan deep inside of us wants to proclaim him the next prodigy. But we're realists, and Thompson has a lot to prove moving forward. Specifically, his strength of competition isn't great, nor is he fighting enough to warrant an immediate move to the UFC or Bellator. The next step is the tougher competition that awaits him in a larger regional promotion. If he can past the test there with flying colors, Thompson will get the attention he deserves and make waves by the end of the year.

Obviously Thompson wouldn't be the first exponent of karate to do well in MMA. UFC Hall of Famer Chuck Liddell came from a kempo and Koei-Kan karate background. Welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre started training Kyokushin at age 7 from his father and, of course, former UFC light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida trained Shotokan karate under his father from age 3.

Time will tell if Thompson joins that heady company or if he'll be just another karateka who couldn't cut it in the UFC.

In the full entry are some of Thompson's fights from Chuck Norris' defunct World Combat League.

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The eyes of the Ranger will be upon him in his UFC debut
Man, after reading the article i was like DAMN! 62-0!

But after watching the footage i was like meh…

same

dude better get his hands up too.

Karate eh?

Can’t help but think we’ve been down this road before…

it took Machida all the way to the title

same for Liddell and GSP — naturally the BJJ/Sumo or Wrestling/BJJ they added to their karate was a huge part of their success.

This is krotty, not karate.

I don’t like how “kenpo” got strung together with “karate.” I don’t like it at all.

I think Karate gets a bad rap,

but Karate didn’t take GSP to the title, or anywhere close.

That’d be like saying Tae-Kwan-Do took Anderson to the title, just b/c that was the first thing he got a black-belt in.

Lots of K1 champs and kickboxers had a Karate base,

Lyoto was more unusual b/c he was from a more traditional style.

Well, that and “Karate” gets associated w/ crumby McDojo’s, here in the States.

Karate means everything and nothing.

His style, GSP’s style, Machida’s style and Chuck’s style are 4 very different styles which happen to be named karate.

Machida's style is the closest one to his but they are still very different.

Kyokushin’s got pretty much nothing in common with it except the katas.

This is what kyokushin competition looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEpqvx2PTP4

Basically the rules are bare knuckles kick boxing without punches to the head.

I was going to randomly pick a fighter for this fight for BECW

but I guess i’ll pick this guy now

What the fuck was that in that video against Tim Williams… give me a break. Well I’m glad this guy is in the UFC now but I’ll be cautiously optimistic about how successful he will be.

I'm somewhat interested to see how his style translates.

I’d like to be optimistic, but I don’t think it’ll go very well. The way he bounces around and shift his stance doesn’t give me much hope for his ability to stay upright, and his low shoulders and high chin give me no confidence he’ll be able to exchange in punching range without getting KO’d.

Did it say for his amatuer debut at 15 he beat an undefeated 26 year old?! Like a boy whoppin’ a man, that woulda been pretty embarrasing..

Is he 155?
First word of the story "Welterweight"
he may pick world cup matches

but nobody taught him how to read

Yup, pretty curious to see what this guy can do.

Staying upright seems to be the biggest question.

Yeah,

Nothing I saw there really impressed, and his defense looked…absent.

He's from my hometown...

We are about the same age and I first started martial arts when I was 7. I know for a fact that he has very impressive stand up. I am curious as to how his ground game has come along. If I’m not mistaken, he has trained at blackhouse and he has traveled to Canada to train with GSP, who had very good things to say about him. I will definitely be pulling for him.

Greenville in the house here. Did you get to see any of his fights at the bilo center?
Greenville here as well...

Didn’t make it to the Bilo fights. Heard he kicked a guys mouthpiece into the audience when he knocked him out. You know how that goes, he coulda arm barred the guy and by the time it made it to me, he Cro Copped him in to oblivion.

I saw his first two pro mma fights there.

He finished both guys in pretty brutal fashion but I dont recall a mouthpiece flying in either of those.

Wait, Carlos Machado teaches Tetsushin Ryu Jiu-Jitsu?

I thought he was a BJJ guys like the rest of the Machados…

The Carlos Machado I know of teaches BJJ.

But apparently Thompson trained in Tetsushin Ryu Jiu-Jitsu before. Pretty sure Carlos Machado is his BJJ coach.

“he trains Tetsushin Ryu Jiu-Jitsu under his brother-in-law the legendary Carlos Machado”

Huh? Is this a different Carlos Machado?

Lost in translation...

From the original article this article ‘references’:

“He has a black belt in Japanese jiu-jitsu, trains Brazilian jiu-jitsu under his brother-in-law, eighth-degree black belt Carlos Machado, and says his wrestling is his second strongest skill behind his striking”

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