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Georges St. Pierre Cageside At UFC 143: Diaz Vs. Condit

Georges St. Pierre has not fought since his UFC 129 bout with Jake Shields due to a knee injury while training for a title defense. That defense was originally scheduled to be against Nick Diaz, but Diaz skipped press obligations and the UFC punished him by giving the title shot to Carlos Condit. Then GSP got injured and the Condit fight was postponed while Diaz ran through B.J. Penn so impressively that Dana White and the UFC brass decided to move Diaz back into the title shot.

GSP would then suffer a major injury to his ACL, shelving him until mid to late 2012. So when the UFC decided to put Carlos Condit and Nick Diaz against the cage from each other for the interim welterweight title, with the winner to face GSP upon his return, it's no surprise that Georges was cageside.

The UFC released video of Georges at the fight, and that can be seen here:


I'd be interested in seeing these videos continue for future title contender bouts.

SBN coverage of UFC 143: Diaz vs. Condit

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C'mon Georges. Show some emotion.

At about 1:33, he leans back and says “Ah, man!” This was about the most interesting part because it really felt genuine.

He seemed tense. Clearly was invested in the outcome.
his Engish is bad...

and is getting worse, leading up to 143, it felt like he was having trouble getting his ideas across, i think it only adds to his nervousness. he would be better off speaking in French and getting a translator.

No.

I would much rather listen to his half decent English than listen to a translator.

i dunno...

listening to him on media day before 143, it looked like he was having a tough time explaining to ppl about his ideas, feelings etc. especially when he started talking about inner demons, street fights, a lot gets lost in translation, and gives room to ppl to call him names.

with a good translator, he can be more efficient, i think a lot of ppl who find him bland and boring are english speakers, i doubt he is like that around his network of french speakers.

I'm always amazed

By how terrible the translators they find are. I’ll take broken English over a heavyset lady that has no idea what MMA is or why she’s in a cage.

i agree.

but there is no shortage of good french translators, do they really need MMA knowledge ? leave that to GSP, just be efficient in translating his words.

He's not, he's much less boring in french.

Not that he’s suddenly Chael Sonnen or anything, but he’s much more comfortable and it shows.

yes but i was very surprised when i first heard the Montreal French

I could consider it sounds much harder than the normal French sounds really terrible for a French translator i think :D

What spoiled the party here is, that he knew he was on cam. It would have been more interesting if he doesnt

It's definitely a bit different than french as it is spoken in France.

But I’ve been in Montréal a month ago and aside from a few different expressions, it isn’t really that hard to understand.

You speak French?

I’ve heard some Frenchie’s say that his French is terrible, but I wouldn’t know the difference.

People say the same thing about Siver’s(who is actually Russian) German.

Yup, I'm french.

He’s from Québec so his french definitely sounds different than mine. I wouldn’t call it bad though. There’s quite a few different expressions and the accent is different, that can make it difficult to understand to French people. But that’s just the way they speak french in Québec. Not bad french, just a different way to speak it.

Yes at a Q and A i have heard him because an Asian girl asked him

with her quite good real French and for some minutes i got really shocked when i heard his :D many words they say totally differently than French :D so to me it sounded terrible but i m sure one can get used to it :D its sooo much harder than the French French as for me

If Siver is a Russian then i m sure his German is awful LOL i can speak both languages.

Cool

Thanks guys.

Its seems like Mexican Spanish vs Latin American or Catalonic Spanish

not that much difference though but all imo of course

between Mexican , Latinamerican and Catalunian Spanish apart from the fact that its each Latinamerican country has some of its own words and expressions :)

Now i have started to wonder how Siver speaks that German. One funny thing. Once i heard Schwarzenegger speaking German.. it was weird because he speaks English with still a hard accent but he eventually got to the point to speak also German with a kinda accent :)

I don't speak spanish so I can't tell for sure but that sounds about right.

It’s also a bit like British English and American English.

The gap might be a bit larger between French and Québecois

but that would be an apt comparison.

exactly its larger in my opinion too

..

It's not that bad, takes a bit to get used to the accent and has a few different expressions that's all.
Although if French isn't your first language it might be a bit tougher.
yup to me its the accent most of all

although i dont know the local French dialects in France mostly hear the common French as it is :)

And yes UK English especially the dialects (and the cockney) are very far from the US English indeed :D

Seems like it

Although there are some UK accents that are damn near unintelligible to us Yanks.

worked at IKEA for awhile had a guy come in from somewhere in england couldn’t understand a thing in english. swore at me in french and I was like hey I speak french…. understood him perfectly in french… it was bizarre

That is awesome

Englishmen…

And most french canadians speak much better english than the vast majority of french people anyway, so finding a translator shouldn’t be that hard.

Yeah

Any French Canadian living in America would have no probably translating it and being understood.

but i also heard that many in Québec refuse to speak in English

like Dutch kinda refusing to speak German..

Yep

That’s why I said a a FC living in America.

Ahhh ok now i got it LOL

..

We don’t refuse to, we’re just getting worse and worse at it :(

caloze is startin da partyy

Spoiling *

Spoiling the party, not starting.

the internets would call GSP a diaz nuthugger and tell him to cry more lol

maybe they will???
i thought GSP and chucks were not friends ?

you know after UFC 94……

Perhaps it's just my senility

what was that?

apparently...

it was chucks who snitched on GSP about greasing to the commish.

GSP has the personality of a lizard
Nick Diaz has a personality

GSP has been exposed

man hearing chuck liddel talk makes me uncomfortable now

yeah he sounds brain dead

rashad did it to him

Ruined his chin and his brain

and partying to hard

I’ve talked to some other fighters that have been around Chuck and they said Chuck parties haaaaard.

what I took from this is that

Diaz wasn’t in GSP’s head as many said. At least not intimidating him, it seemed to me that GSP really wanted to whoop Diaz’s ass. This makes me wish the fight was happening even more cause GSP wrecks people when he’s pissed at them. Think BJ Penn and Matt Sera.

the only problem

is that Penn and Serra were undersized for WW, and GSP is a monster

Though I agree on the front that an angry GSP wrecks people

size doesn't matter to GSP..

he wrecks bigger, stronger guys too, granted he is 100%

size doesn’t matter to GSP..

GSP is almost always the bigger stronger fighter.

hardy, alves, fitch, and sheilds. nuff said.
LOOK HOW MUCH BIGGER DAN HARDY IS....oh wait



pic1- that angle is misleading, i remember that face off, hardy was just as big as st peirre

pic2- alves though shorter, was a juggernaut back then, listen to rogan as he is pacing before the intro, he was more physically imposing.

pic3- GSP is 5’11, fitch is atleast 6 feet tall.

Fitch is 6'0

but GSP is obviously stronger

Thats debatable

Fitch has to be pretty damn strong to Fitch people.

Couldn't Fitch GSP

cuz GSP was stronger.

or because

he way technically superior in every way

poor Fitch...

he’s been faded

I don't think even one of those guys

are as strong as Georges.

Alves, maybe. But I doubt it.

I feel like his technical/mental superiority is what makes the ultimate difference. Hughes is known as a freak of nature for his strength and GSP had no problem finding away to deal with that.

forgot KOS...

who is contemplating move to MW now, GSP beats on smaller guys is a weak excuse to hate on him, not saying that you are.

I'm not hating

but the fact is GSP is almost ALWAYS the bigger/stronger fighter.
But then so is Nick Diaz.
It’s smart to fight as light as you can.

oh i know...

its just that, lots of ppl think he made a career by beating up LW’s, you know coz of serra and penn.

I know better.

I’ve been watching GSPah since he was a pure Karate fighter.

Nick is usually taller

But I think the majority of UFC LW’s have a big strength advantage over him.

The man is a technical prodigy. He just knows exactly what to do in every situation and unlike BJ Penn, he can actually do it after the first round.

WW I think you mean
Nope

I think guys like Gleison, Maynard, Guillard etc. are physically much stronger than Nick.

I disagree

Nick towers over those guys
Leverage=strength

Not really

I pick up guys with his build up over my head.

Leverage applied in the right way = strength.

Basically body type will have its mechanical advantage in one way or another.

That’s all technique.

In terms of actually physical strength, those guys I listed are definitely much stronger than Nick.

He says himself that he isn’t very strong and that a lot of high level MMA is “Which strongman fights the best?”

He says that Georges is the strongest strongman, but that Georges has the best technique, too.

leverage=strength

Not always. I am short and compact and honestly love training with guys with Nicks build, I easily overpower them. 99% of the time I train with taller guys I have the strength advantage unless they have about 50 pounds on me.

That's been my experience, too.

Shorter, faster guys murder me.

I have to get my hips super low, so I have to react way faster. Taking a 5’4" 150lb dude’s arm is a biacth, too.

Leverage is huge if its applied right though. In the clinch though, I was surprised how much stronger I was than shorter people, once I learned how to do it correctly.

I always do well against shorter guys

reach is nice to have.

You know what you're doing

For every Jon Jones there are 100 Stephen Struves. :)

I really don't

I fight like a spazz
It’s fun. :)

Yes it is

Its so raw and honest. Just you vs them. No bullshit. No politics.

But I don’t have the balls to go out under the lights and fight someone in front of a couple hundred people.

Much respect.

Striking almost always favor the taller/longer fighter

I have a monkey’s build.

Average legs, long torso and very long arms.

Despite sucking at Muay Thai, I can hang with much better guys who are about 5’5" just because my jab is like their front kick.

I like to use it as a meter stick for right hand, too.

What is your wingspan?

Don't know for sure

But I have a longer reach than most guys I train with that are 6’ or little more.

Probably around 74", at 5’ 9".

I'm 6'1" 185 and I have a 76.5 inch reach

so yeah, you have monkey arms.
Good for you.

Racist!

Just measured. A little over 73".

You have some monkey ass arms yourself. :P

That's my point

I’ve got some height on you and your reach is almost the same.
Most guys your height have like 68/70" reach.
It’s a big advantage.

I 've basically quit training these days

I about to start teaching a cardio kickboxing class and I’m just getting too lazy to drive across town.

I know I’ll regret. Guys I used to own already kick my ass when I show up now.

You have 4" of height

and 3" of reach on me.

That’s means you probably have some surplus simian in you, too.

It's cuz

I smoke weed.

It’s a PED.

Makes sense

I once heard weed causes schizophrenia, so I imagine increasing your reach is just another ugly side effect they don’t talk about.

It turns me into a werewolf

Now im 200 5’10 hit the gym regularly,

i’m no0 mma fighter but have been gifted with the type of power in both hads that breaks faces and am a natural wrestler that never was taught, im also 35 , a father of three boys , have a wife, and trying to be a christian and be a good person. Ive come from some bad places.

So what your saying is

GSP is me you?

I don’t follow.

Ah

You’re making a comparison.

Of all the crazy shit I say, the length of my reach, is what you call into question? :)

No dude

it’s a meme

i know

Just didn’t see the relation.

I think he's talking to me.
damn I feel like a freak

6’2 with an 80 inch reach

That's sounds like Brock Lesnar

You a 270lb hot-head from Minnesota?

FREAK!

KILL IT!!!
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very true….I always use striking to set up the clinch/td on taller guys. Once I get ahold of a taller guy, even in the clinch I am fine. Part of that is due to my wrestling style, I love throws/body locks etc.

Forgive my terrible typing

To give you an example, my wife is 4’11" 120lbs.

I honestly have a harder time lifting her than I do tall lanky 180ish lbs guys.

Her center of gravity is so damn low that I can’t apply my strength without really getting low myself.

Damn
I honestly have a harder time lifting her

Weak ass mo fo ;P

I can't deny it :)

From my knees I can pick her up really easy, but standing is a bitch sometimes. :P

Part of it is I consciously(and unconsciously sometimes) use much less strength when I roll with her.

Have you noticed that you feel stronger on the mat from a kneeling position, too?

true

but after Condit beat Diaz it makes me think GSP would have put a beating on him. Not trying to rip Condit, but I feel GSP is on a different level.

I remember after the first round

Thinking that round alone cleared all doubts of GSP being able to beat Diaz.

Ultimately, before this fight I thought Condit was the harder matchup for him anyway, if only for one punch KO power.

to add

I honestly think the reason an angry GSP wrecks people is because he admittedly was picked on growing up and I think he has that nerdy revenge mentality. Its kind of like okay now its my turn to pick on you, only I’m going to uses my fist, shins, elbows, etc.

interesting......

words were exchanged between GSP/diaz, after the fight diaz came to cage and said something to GSP, and he replied “hope you win”. man the audio of what diaz said would have been nice.

maybe GSP just knows how to beat Diaz

I mean it’s no brainer, if BJ Penn could take Diaz down. Diaz also doesn’t have good strike defence, he likes to smother people and relies on his chin, so GSP can jab freely with his stiff jab which he had been honing for years and if Diaz comes forward in his plodding flatfooted way GSP can take him down and lay on him in side control untill stood up, then the same thing for the rest of 5 rounds and then interviews like "OH, Diaz is an amazing fighter, very tough hard to finish, I tried but you know, maybe next time and go colelct his paycheck

BJ Penn took down Jon Fitch

Matt Hughes
just about everybody except GSP and Edgar.

that's true

I forgot that

He even took Edgar down.

Did he?

I can’t remember.
As a BJ Penn fan I haven’t watched those fucking fights since the PPV

Yep

With ease.

If you go back on watch the first fight especially, you can see that BJ was miles and miles ahead in the grappling dept.. He just didn’t do it.

I thought he won the first fight

but the second……..sigh

I don't recall the second fight well anymore

All I picture is a lonely Hawaiian standing still in the center of an octagon.

Went back and checked the second fight. Just fast forwarded it to see where I remembered Penn taking him down.

In the beginning of the fourth round, Penn got double underhooks and tripped Edgar to the mat. He started working from top position, trying to secure mount on Edgar. They were on the ground for a brief portion, Edgar on his back, then Edgar scrambled his way back up to his feet.

They should have done one of these for Lesnar

While he was watching Mir vs. Nog. It would have been lulzy.

I think that they had one, or maybe it was just White’s video blog…

My interest

Has been peaked.

“Mur is clotheslining Nogara”

where is the video???

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