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Josh Koscheck Vs. Johny Hendricks Set For UFC On Fox 3

The aftermath of the Nick Diaz saga has led to a lot of confusion in the welterweight division. Will Carlos Condit defend his UFC interim welterweight title before Georges St. Pierre comes back? Who are the top contenders for that bout if it does happen? Well, one piece of the welterweight puzzle was revealed today by UFC president Dana White. Josh Koscheck will face Johny Hendricks at UFC on Fox 3 on May 5th. Here's what he said on twitter:

Koscheck vs Johnny Hendricks is on for FOX!!!
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This bout makes all sorts of sense. Hendricks is coming off of a 12 second knockout of Kos's former teammate and good friend Jon Fitch. Koscheck defeated Mike Pierce via close split decision at UFC 143, while Hendricks did the same at UFC 133. Koscheck is a natural talker who is a good fit for a Fox show, and the winner of the bout will be a clear option for Condit if he does choose to defend before GSP returns. The only bad part is that this will be a three-rounder.

In short, excellent booking as usual from Joe Silva.

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I see Kos getting TKO’d, haymakers everywhere

Not even haymakers

Watch all of Hendricks’ fights and as soon as he gets the clinch he uppercuts the shit out of you. The guy has sick power and has excellent uppercuts, I honestly think they’re one of the best in MMA.

It’s uppercuts that he used to drop Sadollah, brutalize Ricardo Funch, and drop Brenneman the 3rd or 4th time around (1st time was a temple shot on a hook).

This would be better as the main event

Diaz vs Miller can co-headline.

I don't know

Koscheck seems to be starting the twilight of his career, I’d rather have 2 exciting title contenders as the ME

No way.. you want to rob us of two rounds of Miller – Diaz?

No, not at all

In terms of having a bigger name to bring casuals in – crucial for the ongoing success on Fox – , well, Koscheck is more well known.

I really want Edgar vs Henderson on Fox, but we can’t always get what we want.

BTW, Diaz vs Miller is a perfect 5 round main event for FX, rather than FOX

Just saying.

5 Rounders are exclusive to PPV and big Fox

All other headliners are 3 rounders

I doubt this is set in concrete

UFC generally are savvy enough to know what match ups work best as 3 round or 5 round headliners (for television entertainment purposes).

Very Savvy indeed however

I think for this reason they will match up all those that need to be 5 rounders on FOX or PPV. Otherwise i think they should have done Bisping Vs. Sonnen.

However only time will tell if they break what they said…wont be the first time

You can't tell guys 11 days away from their fight

That you’re changing it from 3 rounds to 5.

Okay, yeah, I get what you’re saying. I was a little surprised as well that Diaz – Miller was to headline FOX, but I really really love that fight being five rounds so I’m not going to suggest otherwise.

hendricks. Kos just doesnt look hungry any more since GSP put some muffins on him
koscheck is going to sleep in this one
oh god please let him KO Koscheck in 12 seconds!
Oh shit!

I had a feeling they were gonna put this match up together

I think Hendricks is going to win but I like Koscheck's chances.

He said that motivation was a problem in his fight with Pierce but I don’t think that’ll be the case this time. Kos is going to come in wanting to avenge Fitch’s loss.

Hendricks should win this one. His combination of improved striking, power, and strong wrestling should get him the victory. Koscheck looked pretty bad in my opinion against Pierce. Koscheck looks to have peaked, and Hendricks is just getting better.

Wow this could be the turning point towards the endgame for Koschecks career. Great match though.

Let's see if Kos still thinks he's a striker
Kos Right hand vs. Johnny Left hand

There is only room for one 1-Dimensional wrestle boxer in the Welter Weight top 5.

There can be only one!

I hope Kos goes nighty night in violent fashion
Who thinks he's going to retire after he gets kyo'd?

That seems to be the trend nowadays, or at least a move up to middle weight?

KYOOOO!
its the dave chappelle of ko

hahhaa. BAM! Kyo’d bitches!

Both men lost to pierce by split-decision

very interesting, very close fight. My prediction: Koscheck wins by repeated eye pokes. works every time

Kosh won

he should have lost

yeah he def should have gotten a point deduction for the eye gouging

he gets a lot of preferential treatment in my opinion

lol when speaking of Kos eye pokes

you have to be specific, there have been too many

That’s the thing, he received an official warning from Herb in the second round, as well as several other “informal” verbal warnings during the fight. Then in the third when they halted the action after another eyepoke that affected Pierce, he should have gotten a point deduction (since he had already been warned). Instead he got another warning..

Also never mind that Pierce pretty clearly won the first two rounds in my opinion

in everyone's opinion beside the judges sitting cageside

the true robbery of the night

I thought Pierce outstruck him for two rounds.
He did

I think Pierce’s cut (caused by an accidental headbutt) + takedown = STOLE THE 2ND ROUND

Both guys beat pierce by split dec.

Hendricks lost to Story.

Koscheck won that fight. Granted, it was a terrible decision.
fun match up

Hendricks gets him I think

Smells like

A vicious KO to me. Kos will try to wrestle, won’t be able to get/keep Hendricks down, and will eat big punches in an exchange.

Hendricks is going to rearrange Koscheck’s face

this will be a UD for kos.

both have KO power, but i think kos will try and gnp his way out.

nighty night Kos
oooo goody Kos is getting KO'd

boring decision.

had the pleasure of meeting hendricks at the fox card.

down to earth guy, and i just thanked him repeatedly for the fitch ko

same

awesome dude. he was jealous of my beard because he had just trimmed his, haha.

He is a very chill guy.

He was always working with Gil Martinez around the same time that I took Muay Thai at Xtreme Couture, and the few times I talked to him he was very cool.

This gon be a dawg fight
First Fitch wins a close fight with Pierce, then gets knocked out by Hendricks

Then Koscheck wins a close fight (even though I think he clearly lost) with Pierce. If Hendricks knocks out Fitch I’m going to find a beautiful poetry to this situation.

Johny “The AKA Hunter” Hendricks

If he beats Kos

He has to fight Paulo Thiago for the right to that name.

They actually wanted to set up Hendricks vs. Thiago at UFC on Versus 3

But they both got injured

Really? I missed that.

That would have been a good fight. I’d probably go for Hendricks were it to happen, but Paulo is a crafty one.

Paulo's gas tank is miserable

I think Hendricks would’ve handled Thiago in the 2nd and 3rd.

Agreed. Basically a more efficient version of the 3rd round between Diego and Thiago.

The Sanchez gassing out

came because of a broken nose sustained at the very end of the first.

Thiago went three rounds with Fitch, Volkmann, Kampmann and Sanchez. Only the third round of Sanchez was really bad.

Three rounds with Mitchell too

Although admittedly he was in cruise control for most of that.

Going three rounds doesn't mean good cardio

He gassed in the Kampmann fight but he was already getting dominated anyway.

*If Hendricks knocks out Kos*
Wow, lots of people taking Hendricks here

I’m glad to see people have finally stopped sleeping on his talent (I picked him to beat Fitch) but Koscheck is a talented veteran, in no way in this a gimme for anyone.

I think people are just high on the Fitch KO

and low on Kos’ last outing

I think if Kos comes in and fights like he did against Pierce, there’s a real good chance Hendricks can lay him out.

kos has more smarts than that.

Somehow I doubt it.

Koscheck hasn't looked dominant against anyone relevant since Paul Daley

And dominant was dull.

I didn't think that fight was boring

Koscheck was passing guard, tagging Daley, and going for subs. It wasn’t as bad as everyone made it out to be.

Aside from the 3rd round where Kos really was riding out the decision, I totally agree

At the end of the first two rounds Kos was very close to finishing with an RNC

Koscheck just became my new favorite fighter.
What'd Hendricks ever do to you?

He knocked out Fitch.

And he'll knock out Koscheck
Oh yeah, I forgot ZK was a Fitch fan.

Oh yeah, I forgot ZK was a the Fitch fan.

There are 3, actually. Him, me, and Jon’s wife.

I got Fitch as well. Don’t really understand all the hate. He’s really active and up until the Hendricks fight the most consistent fighter in the toughest division in the sport.

How do you mean "active"?
He fights at least twice a year
Oh

I thought he was a beast on Wii Fit or something

Kinect

UFC Trainer

I think his take downs are exciting. He looks to pass guard fairly often. His punches are damaging but that doesn’t stop him from throwing a bunch of them. It seems a lot of people want to hate him just because he’s got position before submission on his mind.

I bet he is beast at wii fit.

People hate him because he has position and zero attempts at a finish

Throwing 1500 pitty-pat punches is what people criticize Fitch for. He does that to stay active.

I don’t think it would be hard to make that argument. I feel like Fitch is fighting for a finish. He says he is, he doesn’t have any reason to lie about it. He’s probably pretty bad at that aspect of the game. If finishes are important to you, he’s not your horse.

He doesn't try to finish

He rarely postures up in guard. Makes minimal attempts to pass. And almost never works to set up submissions. I don’t know what would make you think he’s “trying” to finish.

It looked like he was trying to finish BJ. However 3/5 sentences I wrote concerning Fitch’s vain (and to some frustrating) attempts to finish indicated that his finishing abilities were poor, an argument could be made that he doesn’t even try, and that if you liked finishes you should stay far away from Fitch.

With that said reasons that I DO like Fitch are a little south of this comment.

I dunno, he was definitely throwing harder than usual against Penn, but he never attempted to pass guard and it’s very difficult to finish with GnP from the guard.

hmm

You just insulted Jones with that implicit Fitch comparison.

name anyone but jones and jorgensen who finish from the guard at this level
Jon Fitch has attempted 11 submissions in 16 UFC fights

That’s not trying to finish.

so he attempts a submission in 80% of his fights.

nice.

Nope

Fitch has attempted submissions 11 times but in in only 7 of 16 fights, so not even half.

According to FightMetric he passed to a better position 40 times, and passed guard at least once 13 of 16 fights.

Okay, so it's not that he doesn't try

he just can’t.

I completely forgot the 80% reference

Shame on me.

How many of those fights occured in the North of England?

That is what is important.

I also like watching the grind game. Stand up or on the ground. It’s subtle but there are moments in fights like Condit vs. Diaz where you can tell Diaz doesn’t want to be in the ring with Condit, he was broken. He stopped throwing as many punches, stopped taunting and became complacent.

Fitch did the same thing to BJ Penn. It’s pretty crazy to see a multi-time champion like BJ Penn laying on the ground accepting 149 strikes while only offering 2 in return!

Because he takes people down (exciting)

And then stops being exciting.

Not that you shouldn’t be a Fitch fan, but I don’t understand the argument of “Watching Fitch hold grown men down is so exciting” and probably never will.

Mazzagati could have guillotined him as well but blew it.
I would have forgiven all of the stupid shit Hot Tub has done over the years if he would have just pulled guard and wrapped Fitch up with an arm in guillotine.

Worst case scenario, Fitch just lays on him for another four and a half minutes so no big whoop.

So once Hendricks KO's Koscheck

I’ll consider that Hendricks 2 AKA members 0 even though Kos left.

It’d be Hendricks and Paulo Thiago who own the shit out of AKA fighters.

Fitch beat Thiago.

Yeah but he subbed Swick so he's 2-1 with AKA.
Yes, but Thiago took the 1st and had a deep RNC on him but couldn't finish it

Also, Thiago is 2-1 vs. AKA!

Going 2-1 against something or someone isn’t “owning the shit out of them”.

Just sayin’.

And it was a guillotine.

When you're an underdog in all three fights

You’ve more than proven your point.

Thiago was brought in pretty much to build Koscheck back up as a contender and that failed. Then he fought Fitch which was ill-advised but competitive. Took on Swick and was a +175 underdog and dominated him.

Kos is still an AKA member

just not the original one. He’s training out of one of the AKA gyms he built.

It's getting renamed

I’m pretty sure Kos has no more affiliation with AKA at all anymore.

By the way, having guys like Phil Davis and Johny Hendricks on these cards

Are exactly the type of thing the UFC should be doing as far as showing their up-and-comers.

except putting Phil Davis up against Rashad was the opposite of a showcase
yee go hendricks

the AKA killa

Give me a job, Joe Silva!

http://www.sbnation.com/users/SSreporters/search?advanced_search=true&all_these_words=Koscheck+vs.Hendricks&btn=Search&order=date&q=Koscheckvs.+Hendricks&scope=network&search_user[username]=SSreporters&type=Comment

you are probably too tall to work alongside him

people will think he is your pet.

I'm 5'11

Which to him means I might as well be Manute Bol.

koscheck gettin KTFO if....

he shows up like he did against Pierce, Hendricks is hungry…and he looks like a terrorist with legit dynamite in his left hand….

Koscheck's striking is vastly overrated

Offensively and defensively. He only outstrikes guys who are hopeless at striking like Dustin Hazelett, Yoshida, and Trigg. Then you pair him up with elite strikers or boxers like GSP and Alves and he gets his ass kicked. Defensively, Hughes was landing his jab often, Paulo Thiago isn’t a good striker and he still KO’d him with an uppercut, and Alves lit him up. It was two weeks notice, but Alves would beat him healthy, too.

I think Hendricks keeps this standing and wrecks him.

welcome aboard

yall probably thought Jon Fitch would win at UFC 141, still welcome aboard all the new members of the Johny Hendricks bandwagon. there’s room for everyone and plenty of Wendy’s baconator burgers and Jack’s Bacon Milkshakes for all

Full steam ahead for the (interim?) welterweight title in 2012.

I picked Hendricks!

Just not by stoppage :(

Same. The underdog bonus was sweet though.
Of course my entire night was ruined by Donald Cerrone vs. Nate Diaz

I had Cerrone by dec. If I had Diaz I would’ve been 10-0.

Same again.

Although I picked Nam Phan to beat Hettes so ended up 8-2.

Nam Phan?????

damn dude, I think even subbevil picked Hettes in that one.

I know, I know... I got blinded by my disdain of Caceres.

Bah, aside from that, I’m doing pretty good overall in the civil war.

I'm happy for you

I am god awful this season.

I was leaning toward Hendricks for the upset, then I rewatched the Story fight...
In an unrelated story

I am hanging at the University right now waiting for my gf to get done with some group project for her Masters and these med students are studying near me. The dude is blowing it, he could have totally smashed this chick, closed casket funeral status and he just said bye and let her walk off. I feel like I should help him since I am so old and wise.

Or you could laugh at his failure

Whatever makes you feel better

i have been, don't worry
maybe he's playing a longer game

to tease her

This Fight Should Make Hendricks a Star

He’s got a good personality, and some main stream exposure here would go a long way in cultivating interest and a following for him. He’s been an outspoken athlete since his college days, and will be a natural in the build up. The obvious storyline of the Kos/Fitch/Pierce/Hendricks quadrangle of MMAth makes for an easy sell for the UFC and the fighters. As for the fight, Kos’ last performance is obviously a red flag. He’s never looked comfortable after that GSP fight, and I’d imagine that’ll make him mighty cautious of Hendricks’ left hand. I see Hendricks by TKO after Kos turtles up after a haymaker and followed strikes by Hendricks.

throw in Rick Story and you have a Pentagonal Clusterfuck
More importantly

He’s got a beard, which I like.

WAR FRANCO HARRIS!

for Condit?

how is a fight that takes place 3 months after Condit’s win over Diaz a “clear option” for Condit….there would have to be at minimum a two month layover from that fight so proly sometime in July, and what if the winner comes out hurt and then GSP is ready and doesn’t have an opponent

Well, if Condit does choose to defend it likely wouldn’t be until July/August anyway. If GSP is out until November, as some believe, it might make sense.

If Ellenberger crushes Diego, would you give him the shot at Condit?
I would

No hesitation.

And there will be no “if” for Ellenberger, just simply “how long will it take?”

I would too.
As I said in my HKL post

There’s no reason to have an interim title if your not going to keep the division moving in the meantime.

Plus

Both Ellenberger and Condit have historically been fighters who like to stay busy; assuming Ellenberger comes out of the Sanchez fight with no injuries, we could be looking at June for a potential fight.

June would be perfect and give plenty of time for the winner to prepare for GSP's return at the end of the year

Even if Ellenberger loses, the UFC could probably push Sanchez to challenge Condit as well.

Sanchez is viable, or they could just pull Hendricks from the Koscheck fight.

Yeah, I was going to suggest Hendricks, but with the one announced I discounted him as a possibility

I supposed they could pull him, but it seems unlikely.

Hendricks needs one more win.

That is really all there is to it, and since Georges is coming back, probably two. Maybe the winner of Kampmann v. Alves if Big Rig beats Kos

I agree

But a win over Condit qualifies him to face GSP. I don’t think he’s the best 1st choice, but I could see it happening if there’s an unfortunate rash of injuries.

or any other kind of unfortunate rash
They should consult TheFilt in that case

I’m pretty sure he’s an expert on those kinds of rashes.

dude, no lie

I once came down with some kind of odd…….occurrence and The Filt told me to mix Coppertone SPF 45, beeswax and 3 ground up porcupine quills as a salve and it cleared me up in 14 hours.

Where do you acquire porcupine quills?
Native American Shamans
Did someone ask for me?
Andy Anderson...is that a Cherokee name?
Nah

My great grandpa Jimmy was named James Anderson when he was sent to a Jesuit Boarding School that the Gov’t sent him to after he was born on the Seneca Iroquois reservation. He had a Native father and a Black mother, and interestingly enough the boarding school is also somehow the reason that my family is Roman Catholic.

that whole story you told should be your nickname. I can hear Bruce Buffer now......

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Buffer is rediculous enough already

As short of a nickname as possible would be best. “Andy” is a nickname I got a month before I was born after all.

What is your real first name then???

Earl Montclair?
Obsidian?
Cantaloupe?

I would. I'd like to see him in a 5 rounder with Condit.
and on full notice, unlike the first fight.

yes please

I don't think GSP should fight as soon as November

Knee injuries are serious stuff. Just because the knee feels good, doesn’t mean it actually is.

Jake Cheeseburger in paradise

will not beat condit.

Why do you say that?
Furthermore, why the Jimmy Buffett reference?
Yeah, that was a pretty terrible attempt at a nickname

The loss to Rick Story scares me a little, but I think Hendricks take this. I need to rewatch that fight.

Story can shut down a lot of people with his body focused attack.

it’s really kind of nuts how he did that to Alves, Hendricks and to a lesser extent Hazelett.

lesser ability-wise I mean in regards to Hazelett
Rick Story is such a party pooper.

He ruins all these streaks, then loses to Brenneman on a day’s notice. Can’t even take us streak-ruining to the top.

Koscheck is a really, really good MMA wrestler when he wants to be. Only person to really give GSP ANY sort of trouble. Hendricks has looked fantastic lately. I wish the Fitch fight went on a bit longer before the KO, just to see how he looks against that wrestling. He blasted Fitch’s consciousness to kingdom come before he could even think about a takedown.

I just think that anyone who has solid striking defense, good movement and can throw punches to Kos's eye has a huge advantage over him

Dude is panicky as shit when he gets in the eye. Georges really screwed him up mentally.

He's a guy who has a very good particular skillset

He’s an all offense fighter. He likes to push you up against the fence, throw to the body and and head, then take you down and beat you up.

Fun to watch, but his lack of defense (despite his toughness) is going get him beat by fighters who can take him down or counter punch with good footwork. That said, if someone doesn’t plan accordingly, he has a good shot of beating anyone as long as they fall into his game. .

He's essentially a bully

He comes after you and keeps coming. His strength is utterly ridiculous; what’s more, he knows how strong he is, he trusts it, and his game plans are predicated on him having it. He choked out Brian Foster from inside his half guard, for crying out loud.

That's pretty accurate

And him choking out Foster was pretty nuts as well.

I so want to see Pierce vs. Story. I’m really hoping Silva puts that together.

It's a fight

That makes total sense right now, since they’re both coming off losses to top-10 opponents. Like you said, that would be a really fun fight, especially given their history.

My favorite aspect of this potential fight is the style match up

A slick defensive counter wrestleboxer like Pierce against a super aggressive offensive wrestleboxer in Story. Plus the UFC can play up the their history pretty nicely.

It's pretty bad. Looks like a fitching.

I don’t know if Story’s strategy was a surprise to him or what. But he definitely became hesitant when pressured with the takedown and clinch.

Yeah we’ll see how he looks against Kos. He did a lot of clinching against the cage against Pierce much the same way Story does against most people. Hopefully Hendricks has solved that problem and he can put those fists to his chin.

Absolutely

A win over Kos would be huge for him, and since Koschek is pretty much out of the title picture for the foreseeable future and is in the second half of his career, I have to root for the up and comer here.

Agreed.

It’d be nice to have Ellenberger and Hendricks as the clear cut top of the division behind GSP and Condit. Hopefully they both pull off the win.

First Fitch, now Koschck, this is the way of things

Beat Pierce by competitive decision, get KO’d by Hendricks later.

Great fight by Joe Silva

Koscheck looked nervous and tentative against Pierce, If he comes into this fight looking even slightly like that he is getting rolled.

Maybe Rick Story can give Kos a few tips on how to grind Hendricks down, Worked for him… barely lol

this is a good matchup

But I don’t want to think about any scenario that could lead to another GSP vs kosh fight already

I really doubt that GSP vs Koscheck III will happen. Koscheck honestly looks like he’s in limbo in the UFC Welterweight division.

my prediction

Kos hangs his right as its his new love, he trys to bang with JHex and takes a nap. Johny KO round 2

i like how J hendricks has become...

KO sensation in a matter of days, short term memory and MMA fans, they are inseparable.

koscheck will be knocked out cold!

he gets outboxed by some fighters with no good boxing, how much more if johny hits him with his heavy hands

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