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UFC interim welterweight champ Carlos Condit won a tough 5 round decision against Nick Diaz at UFC 143. A week later he was ready to do it all again, agreeing to rematch Diaz while they waited for champ Georges St. Pierre to recover from ACL surgery.
Unfortunately Diaz failed his drug test after UFC 143, coming up positive for marijuana use.
Condit spoke to Sports Illustrated about the Diaz situation:
"I don't care (about Diaz using marijuana before the fight)," Condit said. "The thing about it is, it's something they test for. It's against the Nevada [State] Athletic Commission [rules]. I don't really consider it to be a performance-enhancing drug, but the fact is, they're testing for it. And you know they're testing for it. Whatever you do in between camps, if you know they're testing for this stuff then you've got to figure something out. In the past, he's said, 'Oh, I can smoke and I can pass these tests no problem.' That attitude kind of came back and bit him in the ass."
Now Condit is expected to wait for GSP to recover from surgery so they can put on a title-unification bout in the fall. Condit was originally going to face St. Pierre last fall at UFC 137, but GSP strained his left knee and had to bow out of the bout.
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Condit was next scheduled to face Josh Koscheck at UFC 143 but got bumped up to the main event against Diaz when GSP tore his right ACL.
SBN coverage of UFC 143: Diaz vs. Condit
0 recs | 183 comments
Oh please.
Not this again. So you are saying, it is not performance enhancing but somehow being tested for it is just. Forget the facts. When are we going to stop being so dumb? I hope Diaz does not get any suspension if he smoked 3 weeks before the fight.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
pot is illegal
Whether you believe it to be morally right or wrong.
Diaz screwed up. That is the real issue here.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
I guess we have to agree to disagree
You can follow these made-up, unjust laws all you want. The only laws that are indisputable are the laws of nature. Everything else is fair game to me.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
Agreed
May I had that Nick could have applied for amedical exemption, which he chose not to do. That is where I am coming from.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
I meant ''add''
Damn it!
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Could have applied doesn't mean they would've granted it
RashadsLeftNipple - February 13, 2012
right
No matter. At least he would have made it LOOK like he was trying to conform to the rules.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
.....and thus you must suffer the consequences of the ones you choose not to follow.....
Brandon Starr - February 13, 2012
Ding! Ding!
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Whatever helps you sleep at night
I hear jail cells are nice this time of year
MemphisMike - February 13, 2012
Anyone that thinks smoking weed deserves any jail time, at all, should be be beat in the face with a bag of corks. For like hours.
Just sayin’
Tacoknight - February 13, 2012
Love that logic!
You do not believe that committing a crime should warrant jail time (consequences). But you believe that somebody that has a diverging opinion should be assaulted with a weapon. Well done sir! You want to control thoughts and punish with violence? Take a rest my man, you need it.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
LOL. Sure thing dude.
When a law says you can’t eat oreos or whatever your thing is (that doesn’t affect anyone else in any possible way), then you should get jail time?
Jail is about punishment not rehabilitation. Some people do need slaps on the wrist, like fines or whatever. Jail time for for smoking weed? Seriously? Your priorities are all messed up.
Jails make criminals, they don’t fix criminals.
Tacoknight - February 13, 2012
OK, just reread your post. My bad.
Beating someone with a bag of corks was a joke.
Tacoknight - February 13, 2012
no worries
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Yes, but a hilarious joke.
NickRingp4pGOAT - February 14, 2012
It was funnier the first time I read it.
As ‘a bag of cocks’.
insamniac - February 14, 2012
Well hey, both ensue in hilarity.
NickRingp4pGOAT - February 14, 2012
not everything illegal is criminal
mollcutpurse - February 13, 2012
Morality is NOT the issue here
Your statement is correct but out of context regarding the real issue here
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Ok, back to reality....
But hey, Diaz is free to take all of the
unsanctionedfights he wants, then no more worries about rules and regulations.What could possibly go wrong?
Violent Newt - February 13, 2012
rofl
no
Cory Braiterman - February 13, 2012
ZZZZZ
Tim Burke - February 13, 2012
what weird imaginary society do you live in?
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Remember, I am a libertarian
You can’t make people moral with laws. :) But I digress. The point is, I hope Diaz does not get a hefty suspension but he probably will :(
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
who cares about morality in any of this
he knows the rules. break them and face the consequences. The End.
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
This so much.
Chin Check - February 13, 2012
One may infer that the NSAC’s ban of cannabiols is for no other reason than to follow WADA’s lead. The Olympics have an image to protect. Is that what the NSAC is doing or are there real scientific reasons?
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
A society where Nature's laws rule over man!
pud333 - February 13, 2012
Only the strong survive? Can you do us all a favor then? Go into a forest, and try to live that one for a week. Good luck.
MicahtheCynic - February 13, 2012
What I meant was the natural law. Not the rule of jungle :D
Come on. You know that.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
A week is not that hard, if you can find water and fashion some rudimentary shelter. Then again, I don’t live in the frigid wasteland like some of you poor souls.
thirdparty - February 13, 2012
A week?
Psssh easy.
RolloTomasi - February 13, 2012
Damn you
Pulp and Paper Industry >:(
EyeHeartMMA - February 13, 2012
Holy hell...
when did BE turn into Hippy Hollow.
Crazynutts - February 13, 2012
the minute weed was brought up
Pat Tzu - February 13, 2012
Okay then.
Go into Best Buy and take a TV of the display and let us know how your law theory pans out.
doomrider7 - February 13, 2012
But…it’s not. Not everywhere. Like in the State where Diaz makes his residence.
Redconsensus - February 13, 2012
Aren't there federal laws that supercede state laws?
Legit curious not trying to be a dick
MemphisMike - February 13, 2012
yep
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Yes, there are federal laws against distributing marijuana. Possession is seen more of a state issue. Feds go after the sellers, not the buyers of medical marijuana. But, barely.
memitim - February 13, 2012 via mobile
Like I said, they aren't doing much to enforce. MJ shops in Cali are like Jewish delis here in the NY area.
memitim - February 13, 2012
I want...i want...please...me likey....
warren305 - February 13, 2012
Fuk the Bible Belt
I gotta get outa here
warren305 - February 13, 2012
Where I am in in San Diego they are all being closed down by the Feds.
I think the same in Los Angeles. They went after the building owners who were renting to the Medi-Vendors. It’s all a cycle between loopholes in the laws and political power struggles.
NickRingp4pGOAT - February 14, 2012
not in Cali...
eddyreyna2 - February 13, 2012
I don't think he said testing for it was just or unjust.
Just that Diaz knew they were testing for it, and he got caught.
pud333 - February 13, 2012
What I am saying is, everyone knows it is not performance enhancing
So why ruin people’s lives if this guy didn’t smoke since 3 weeks ago or something. That’s all I am saying. It’s just ludicrous to say we are going to test for something that does not give Diaz any benefit during the fight. That’s all I am saying.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
I think most people here agree it is silly
but that’s besides the point. It doesn’t matter if the rule is stupid. He still broke it. It is what it is.
pud333 - February 13, 2012
Yes. I totally blame Dana for this.
Why not hold Diaz fights in Holland or something? :D
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
The UFC avoiding regulation would set a bad precedent.
pud333 - February 13, 2012
That soft drugs are legal here
Don’t mean that we’re cool with using it pre-fight. And yes I know it’s harmless, but I THINK (not sure) that drug use in Holland is not allowed prefight.
Thomas Benjamin - February 13, 2012
theyre not ruining his life
They are just following the letter of the law given its a shitty law. But nsac didn’t force Diaz to smoke he did that on his own. They aren’t the bad guys for just enforcing the law. They didn’t go out of there way to be like lets get this Diaz guy. Diaz smoked of his own free will knowing fully the consequences and that he would be tested. He still chose to toke
Bloodsport - February 13, 2012 via mobile
your personal opinion is clouding ypur judgement
Don’t get me wrong im pro pot unfortunately it’s illegal. I don’t think it should be. But fact of the matter is. It is illegal. Nsac says you can’t have it in your system. Nick did twice. So he broke the rule agree with the rule or not he broke it. You can’t pick and choose what rules and laws to break. Whether you pop for ph or pot given they’re 2 completely differ things. A rule is a rule and he broke it.
Bloodsport - February 13, 2012 via mobile
It's Illegal
A gov’t agency isn’t going to overlook a positive drug test, whether it’s performance enhancing or not. Not sure why morons on this site don’t get that.
If you think it should be legal, then that’s a separate issue. But the “battleground” isn’t after you’ve failed a drug test.
davebo - February 13, 2012
Exactly!
I apologize for meandering…
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Nick has a legal prescription. It is legal for him to use in Cali. Why don’t people get that?
memitim - February 13, 2012 via mobile
In Cali, not in Nevada
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
How do you know he used in Nevada?
memitim - February 13, 2012
You said …Oh crap never mind.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
He used it in Nevada? How do you know that?
Sqwibbs - February 13, 2012
How do we he didn't?
If he can’t prove that then he’s screwed period.
doomrider7 - February 13, 2012
No one knows
But he’s not allowed to have it in his system at test time even if he popped out of Nevada for 2hrs to smoke pre fight
Arca MMA - February 13, 2012 via mobile
That is not what I am refuting. I fully understand, and support, the argument that he needs to be a big boy and pass a drug test for his boss.
I’m just tired of the refer madness, it’s illegal bullshit. It’s not illegal in California.
Sqwibbs - February 14, 2012
It's decriminalized, not legalized
(If I am not mistaken). Different things.
VenusBlue - February 14, 2012
If you have your card, you cannot be arrested by state or local law enforcement for possessing or growing, as long as you stay within the state and local guidelines.
I don’t see much of a difference between that, and legalization.
Sqwibbs - February 14, 2012
He doesn’t have a prescription, he has a doctor’s recommendation. A doctor can’t prescribe a federally illegal substance.
VenusBlue - February 14, 2012 via mobile
They absolutely can.
Sqwibbs - February 14, 2012
Marijuana is a schedule I substance under US law
Schedule I substances are deemed to have no legitimate medical use and no prescriptions can be written for them. Prop 215 protects physicians who recommend marijuana usage from State prosecution, but it doesn’t override Federal drug law.
VenusBlue - February 14, 2012
What exactly is the difference between a recommendation, and a prescription?
Sqwibbs - February 14, 2012
Actually Condit never commented on the jurisprudence of the test, just that Diaz was dumb for messing it up.
castleeb - February 13, 2012
It's banned by the NSAC, end of story.
If he wanted to smoke so bad, he should have gotten a therapeutic use exemption.
Sugel Mendoza - February 13, 2012
he never said it was just or fair, simply that those are the rules.
he’s not condoning or condenming Diaz or his pot use at all here.
Victor Rodriguez - February 13, 2012
Oh please, not this silly argument again.
Carlos said nothing about whether it’s just or not, just that Nick knew what he had to do and blew it. Which is obvious. Because it’s Nick Diaz everyone wants to rewrite the rulebook and bow down to his every whim.
Kwisatz Haderach - February 13, 2012
Marijuana should be tested by blood only, not urine
then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
At least Condit knows it’s not a performance enhancing drug like some of the tards on this site
RashadsLeftNipple - February 13, 2012
d'oh! should say "UNlike some of the tards"
RashadsLeftNipple - February 13, 2012
Interesting article over at bjpenn.com where the Diaz’s are saying the only reason Condit accepted the rematch was because he knew Nick had failed his drug test.
http://bjpenn.com/mmanews/2012/02/11/quicktwitt-diaz-camp-claims-only-reason-condit-accepted-rematch-was-due-to-failed-test-13968.html
I don’t know if I agree with this conspiracy theory, but it seems plausible.
Baba Booey - February 13, 2012
Lol I said that in one of those monstrous threads but was totally fucking around …I’ll have to make a Fanpost congratulating myself
Afrotikiman - February 13, 2012 via mobile
heh
GO GET SOME FANS, CARLOS CONDIT!
Cory Braiterman - February 13, 2012
And of course, BJPenn.com is the pinnacle of mma journalism. This story has already been proven as BS.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Source?
I’d like to read more on how this was proven as BS, so I can get both sides of the story.
Baba Booey - February 13, 2012
that's stupid
Condit accepted the fight in the first place and he knows he’s going to have to wait for GSP, and the UFC were going to pay him lots for the rematch. Plus Diaz doesn’t seem the kinda guy that could completely change his game plan so I think Condit could just come in and do the same again.
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
I'd disagree
wouldn’t you think he wold try and take it to the mat sooner this time, even if he ends up playing guard he has got the advantage IMO
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
No I really don't.
His best weapons are his striking and his cardio and thats what he’s been using lately. His camp isn’t into game planning and he has that ‘if you try and take someone down you’re not a real fighter’ mentality despite being a legit BBJ black belt
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
Yea I see your point, could you see Diaz finishing him if he does try to get it to the mat
Who was the last person he took down for a finish? Was it Scott smith? I know he caught Evangelista with that beautiful armbar, but cyborg took him down with a leg trip if my memory serves me correctly?
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
yeah you’re right about the cyborg finish. Just watched the Smith fight and he didn’t even take him down for the finish. He pretty much drops himwith a body shot then takes the back and chokes him out. He took Sakirai down in their fight but it was Saku that shot for the TD that led to the finish
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
ah OK for some reason I had the take down that he did on Frank Shamrock where he caught the kick (pretty sure there is a judo chop on this) stuck in my head for the smith fight
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
This is the reason I have no desire in seeing a rematch.
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
I would still wanna see it again
But just because it was so close and I really enjoyed it
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
I honestly don't think it was that close
and I don’t like the hummingbird on meth style of fighting.
Sadly… I would watch the rematch if it was booked. I have so little self control when it comes to MMA : (
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
I can see why people were disapointed because it wasn’t the war we were expecting but I enjoy high class technical fighting and a solid game plan
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
Yea Condit said it was going to be a dog fight, little did we know it was chihuahuas
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
Its Diaz
and hes mad bro
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
But those things are vicious.
NickRingp4pGOAT - February 14, 2012
I enjoy technical fighting and a solid gameplan
Which is why I was salivating for Machida-Rua II. Those leg kicks were murderous, and the gameplan was masterful.
The Dominique Cruz school of fighting does nothing for me, though.
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
MachidaxRua 1 is my favorite fight of all time
Being a ground guy I love watching jiu jitsu in mma esp. shoguns, but those exchanges were brutally beautiful. And why in the hell is shogun not kicking anymore? Is it his knee? I thought if he used those with Hendo that it would of gone much differently.
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
Fear of wrestling (or the knee) against Jones
Fear of the counter right against Hendo.
VenusBlue - February 14, 2012
same
Except I’ve enjoyed Cruz’s last two fights immensely. I’d actually love to see Machida/Shogun 3 although I understand its unlikely
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
What about Machida-Henderson
I know that’s highly unlikely, at least this year, but that would be some nice countering by Machida, and hendo would have to figuire out the speed of machida because i dont see machida standing toe to toe like Rua did. I’m not a fan of Cruz, I know he’s very skilled and his style is very, very effective, I just don’t find his style aesthetically pleasing…
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
I'd buy it for a buck
For the record I also want: Shogun/Lil Nog 2, Shogun/Rampage 2, Rampage/Lil Nog, Hendo/Lil Nog 2 and Rampage/Forrest 2
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
Those all sound very nice
But the fact that Page still doesn’t check leg kicks bothers me
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 13, 2012
we could only hope
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
Personally, I think its bullshit, and judging by the replies you got so does everyone else.
I do however have my own little theory. I think that Condit accepted the fight just because Carlos knows that he’ll most likely have to defend once so he would rather take a Diaz rematch then a Ellenberger rematch.
savik - February 13, 2012
I think Condit would take whoever they offer
schm1583 - February 13, 2012
this
Carlos is a fucking gamer. Just think about all the bullshit he’s been through the last couple of months
Our Bovine Public - February 13, 2012
Exactly
UncleMax - February 13, 2012 via Android app
I doubt that Carlos is a puss
I am sure he wants to defend at least once. The welterweights also want a crack at Carlos. Because once Georges is back, nobody else is getting anywhere near the ww belt for a long, long time
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
He had the self-discipline to stick to a gameplan and not get caught up in Diaz’s “come on bro” tactics even though he’s clearly unafraid of wading in and getting violent (based on previous fights). It’s a shame that being disciplined doesn’t carry the same weight as the more exciting parts of the sport. Seems to be major part of all martial arts, being controlled.
UncleMax - February 13, 2012 via Android app
This is the truth IMO.
It’s a bigger, better fight with far more guaranteed PPV dollars than a fight with Ellenberger. And since the fans wanted it, Carlos was down to do it again.
Kwisatz Haderach - February 13, 2012
It has already been disproven.
Go check out the underground. Condit accepted the rematch before the test results. Diaz and company are pathetic.
Crazynutts - February 13, 2012
Disproven because Condit accepted the rematch before the drug test announcement was made public? I guess there’s no way the drug test results could have gotten out before it hit the public, right? Listen, I’m not trying to defend Diaz, or say that bjpenn.com is the pinnacle of mma journalism like voiceinthedesert was saying, but I don’t think the timing of everything necessarily disproves anything.
Baba Booey - February 13, 2012
So how did Condit find out...
before Dana? I mean Dana offered the fight to Carlos and tweeted about it. So clue me in on that one.
Crazynutts - February 13, 2012
You’re assuming Dana was the first to know. I don’t know about you, but at my job, the boss is oftentimes the last person to find stuff out. And I don’t think my company is unique in that sense. I think it’s naive to think otherwise.
Baba Booey - February 14, 2012
The Diaz camp becomes more unlikeable by the day. To me, their conspiratorial bent and overall lack of integrity is pretty bleak. If I were the commission, I’d give him a pass for his pathetic negligence and just let the guy smoke his head off and fight. He has nothing for GSP or any of these gorilla-humping wrestlers waiting around at WW. And he has nothing for Condit in a rematch. That said, I’m still a fan of Melendez because he seems to let his talent do the talking.
Charlie Custer - February 13, 2012
Occams Razor
Occam’s razor (otherwise known as Ockham’s razor) is “a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypotheses that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions.”
Diaz’s camp wants this to be true of Condit to undermine his win and character and they have no proof of this. On top of that, it would mean that Dana offered the shot knowing that Diaz would pop.
doomrider7 - February 13, 2012
This I agree with
Thanks for the quality reply. Rec
Baba Booey - February 14, 2012
Condit accepted the fight because the UFC is contacting him directly bypassing his manager, Condit can't say no.
UncleMax - February 13, 2012 via Android app
Spot on.
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Condit is right
The fact that he’s already been caught in Nevada before just makes Diaz even more retarded.
av1o3 - February 13, 2012
QFT
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
I think this comments section is going to be a bad case of deja vu
UncleMax - February 13, 2012
marijuana affects the memory.
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
haha yeah i imagine it does...
..and we’ll soon find out by how much
UncleMax - February 13, 2012
Bloody Hell!
Many commenters here seem to think that shit is manna from the heavens. Good grief! THC is a poison. Although, feel free to smoke it or eat it if you want. That is your choice and I respect it. But don’t waste my time extolling the so-called virtues of that vile weed. The only good thing it can be used for is to make ropes…
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Is this serious? You simply can't believe that.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
It’s like we just got transported to the reefer madness days.
memitim - February 13, 2012
In times like this I defer to Daniel Tosh -
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Whatever you say.
I have never touched weed in my life.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
LQL my good man!
Sqwibbs - February 13, 2012
As a matter of fact
More and more employees that pissed hot for pot have now switched to cocaine as it is only detectible for up to 48 hrs while THC can remain for weeks.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
THC lasts longer in the body than any prescription drugs or illicit drugs...
…yet seems to be proven less harmful over and over thus far. So yeah, that makes sense for those that like to party-hardy to switch it up and not get caught.
NickRingp4pGOAT - February 14, 2012
I do
But I do respect your right to grow it for your personnal consumption. What you do to yourself does not matter to me.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
it's really something. You people seem to have no problem with the real poision
which is alcohol. Oh well. Not the topic of this forum. At least I know where you stand on this. And I don’t smoke pot. Sorry
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
How do you know if I drink or not?
The answer is no. I have no time to get drunk. I spend too much time working, supporting a family, and training. And no, I do not smoke cigarettes, cigars or the pipe, whether hookah or corn.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Well, we are in the same boat then
I am not talking about you when I say you people. I was just talking about people who think weed is like arsenic. The fact of the matter is, marijuana is not as poisonous as you portray it to be. Alcohol is much worse. Marijuana does help patients. It does help people with social disorder. It helps people.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
Do you drink alcohol? The reason I ask is because booze is significantly worse for you then weed, and I get real tired of people who drink raging about how terrible weed is.
Sqwibbs - February 13, 2012
lots of studies have shown THC to help Cancer and AIDS patients
By increasing appetite and decreasing nausea.
many people use it to help with pain. At least it’s not physically addicting like most pain killers.
A lot of the bad effects of smoking marijuana are from the actual process of smoking it. Get a good vaporizer and that argument goes down the drain…
RashadsLeftNipple - February 13, 2012
one word
Marinol
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
yeah, because we should pay pharmaceutical companies
for a pill that does not work as well as the natural plant.
Marinol is the most assenine part of MJ being designated a Schedule 1 narcotic (one with no known medical benefits).
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
I would be interested to read all of the peer-reviewed papers that support your affirmation…
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Here is one
Of course, I doubt it will change your mind. I also doubt you will click the link and read it.
Link
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
He doesn’t actually want to read anything. His mind is made up.
Sqwibbs - February 13, 2012
Not a peer-review scientific article but useful
I do agree in a certain measure that the CSA act needs to be review. In Canada, Cannabis and its derivates are in schedule II. Coacine and heroin are in schedule I.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
That drug is f-ing terrible.
One of the side effects is “unusual thoughts” which actually means suicidal thoughts. That drug will literally make you want to kill yourself.
Sqwibbs - February 13, 2012
no no
A pharmaceutical company made it. It must be good, and we must get anything that is “medicinal” from them. The plant is evil. The pill derived from the plant is great.
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
yes
it is the Devil’s lettuce.
Victor Rodriguez - February 13, 2012
nom nom nom
.5man.5bear.5pig - February 14, 2012
Kind of like the same side-effects as BC bud or Quebec Gold, yes?
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
If you have ever had suicidal thoughts while smoking weed, here is a pro tip:
stop smoking weed.
Also, don’t assume your experience with weed (if you have any first hand experience) is universally applicable.
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
mostly serious
with a mean-spirited touch…
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Elements in marijuana have been proven to reduce inflammation in regards to:
Alzheimer’s Disease, Ohio State University: http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/endocan.htm
Lung Disease, American Medical Association: http://ivn.us/news/2012/01/17/medical-study-reveals-no-lung-damage-from-casual-marijuana-smoking/
Lung Cancer, Harvard University: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
Credible enough sources for you? I haven’t smoked in years, but claiming that marijuana has no medical value is simply false.
mictlantechutli - February 13, 2012
Thanks for the effort you took googling these links
What I was refering to would be the peer-reviewed reasearch papers on Marinol being ineffective and more dangerous than THC.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
Fair enough
I realize now you were being factitious. However, I was trying to refute your claim that “The only good thing it can be used for is to make ropes…” Not get involved in the Marinol debate.
Along with making quality rope, there’s treating tumors, and potentially preventing Alzheimer’s and lung disease.
mictlantechutli - February 13, 2012
What about inflammation from being punched in the face!?!?
performance enhancing right there!
DSAhawker - February 13, 2012
Speaking as a pot smoker
Diaz needs to take responsibility for his actions. He got busted, plain and simple.
The best thing for him to do would be to go hat in hand and apologize to the commission and hope they show leniency. That’s called being an adult.
monkeystyle - February 13, 2012
where the fuck have you been for the last 5 days?!?!?!?!
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Five days?
The fight was yesterday man… wasn’t it?
monkeystyle - February 13, 2012
this guy is good
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Well, thank you
This whole situation just infuriates me. This entire group of smokers who have this sense of entitlement that they can burn one down whenever they want and not have any repercussions come from it is ridiculous.
They need to understand that while it may not be morally wrong it is still illegal in most places and there are consequences for getting busted.
In other words, you made your choice and now you have to deal with it. I really don’t understand what is so hard to understand about that.
monkeystyle - February 13, 2012
I just don’t know how it devolved into this because to me, like you said the equation is really fuckin simple.
It really just shows how selfish and delusional he is because, what if he beat Condit? I he beat Condit, wins the belt and then pees green the whole situation is a complete clusterfuck beyond what it really is. So he completely sabotages the division, the fight, Carlos Condit and himself.
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Sire,
you have said it all!
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
My problem with you people is this
I concede that Diaz f’d up. But none of you people talk about why the law needs to be changed. You always change the subject that Diaz f*d up. Yes. He did fuck up. But as soon as we talk about legalization, many of you talk about how weed is poison and it kills you and all that. So Sonnen can take his medical stuff all he wants. But Diaz who is taking weed for medical reasons fucked up. Alright. Let’s ban him for 1 year and then change this useless law. How about that?
Maybe someone can answer me. How can we change this law? At least for medical marijuana?
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
What do you mean ''you people''?
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
merryprankster - February 13, 2012
ivy is also a poison
Did I or anybody else say that pot kills? You are grasping my friend.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
i say we suspend him for a year and then dont change the law
Earl Montclair - February 13, 2012
Hey man, you're preaching the choir over here
There is nothing I would like better than to go buy my weed legally and have the taxes from it go to the government instead of my sleazy drug dealer so he can buy some more expensive trash. I really would.
How can you change it? I honestly don’t know. I’m fortunate enough to live in a country where most people, including law enforcement don’t give a damn that I smoke as long as I’m not being an asshole about it. That’s my problem with Nick Diaz. I don’t feel like he was being responsible about it at all because of comments like fighting gets in the way of my pot smoking tells me that while sure, he may have a legitimate need for it it goes beyond that.
monkeystyle - February 13, 2012
But what if the last time he smoked was 3 weeks before the fight.
Don’t you agree that it’s a bit harsh to punish someone for that. I am all for people not smoking or doing other crazy stuff a week before the fight but to say he just shouldn’t smoke at all is too much for me.
SheepleBuster - February 13, 2012
which is why they should use blood testing instead
RashadsLeftNipple - February 13, 2012
I know little to nothing about drug tests as I’ve never had to take one.
Does blood testing really make that big of a difference? If it’s a more accurate way of getting the full picture why isn’t it done?
monkeystyle - February 13, 2012
you won't test positive if it was more than a few days before
which would kill any argument that you could have felt any effects in the fight
RashadsLeftNipple - February 13, 2012
If you’re asking for my personal opinion then yeah, I think it’s harsh but here’s the thing. My personal opinion doesn’t really mean anything in the face of reality.
The reality is that Nick had an obligation to test clean and he didn’t. I wish he did. I love watching the guy fight and will sorely miss him for the year (or whatever he gets) that he’s gone.
monkeystyle - February 13, 2012
Bravo!
Well said. You will be left alone as long as you don’t walk down the street with your bong and a FUK The Police t-shirt.
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
because that's not what Carlos Condit was talking about.
are the laws unjust? absolutely.
are the regulations by the NSAC ridiculous when it comes to pot?
undeniably so.
read the rest of the comments in this thread. how many people are defending the drug laws in place, especially as it pertains to cannabis? we’re mostly on your side of the debate, but the problem at hand in the present is that he broke the rules, however messed up they are. this is not an endorsement of said rules. you seem to have a true desire to change the conversation to a very useful and important conversation, it’s just not what we’re dealing with in relation to what Condit’s reaction is.
Victor Rodriguez - February 13, 2012
For starters,
Nick could seek a therapeutic use exemption, since he has a card in California. Other than that, the athletic commission could use blood tests instead of urine, which would allow them to determine if a fighter when a fighter last smoked, so that they wouldn’t judge him as being on the drug when the test is just showing the residue in his system. That’s pretty much it. You’re not going to get sanctioned to fight if they have concerns that you’re drunk, high or whatnot at the time of the fight.
Kwisatz Haderach - February 13, 2012
Dude. This is an MMA website.
Not a NORML message board. We are not here to argue about whether we think marijuana should be legal.
I am so sick of hearing people whine about this. This is a man in title contention who is either too selfish or too stupid to realize that his actions may have real effects on his career. He claims to love fighting but over and over again he does things to jeopardize his opportunity to do just that.
I happen to agree that the law should be changed. But the law is what it is. He made a conscious decision to smoke pot. He can deal with the consequences. He is a man. Not an effing child.
Uno - February 14, 2012
Agreed.
I smoke as well, but far too many people give it a bad name simply by acting like entitled jackasses about it.
Kwisatz Haderach - February 13, 2012
This is why I love BE
A full fledged, multipoint debate about the harmful and medicinal affects of Marijuana, complete with links, strong arguments on both sides, and counterarguments. Try getting that in the comment section of ANY other site, MMA or not.
I love you guys. Accept for Snowden and Subo.
warren305 - February 13, 2012
How dare you!
Subo is a God in these parts! This is my first day commenting on BE. But I have been reading BE for years. Sube is the greatest! Who is this Snowden you speak of?
voiceinthedesert - February 13, 2012
*except
damnit
warren305 - February 13, 2012
My thing with this whole situation is this;
everyone’s talking about the test, nobody’s talking about the crane kick Nick threw in the fight.
Sugel Mendoza - February 13, 2012
... because of how horrible it was
The Lethal Haze - February 13, 2012
this is exactly how i see this situation
well weed is not PED obviously
but it is banned and he knows it. and he got busted.
that’s it, plain and simple.
DK_Monster - February 14, 2012
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