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Bad Boy Presents Bloody Elbow Radio - Episode 136: UFC On FUEL TV Results Review

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Bloody Elbow Radio, presented by Bad Boy, will be LIVE! at 11 p.m. ET/8 p.m. PT for another edition of the show. Join hosts Matt Bishop and MMA Mania's Brian Hemminger as they review tonight's UFC on FUEL TV, which is headlined by a welterweight clash between Diego Sanchez and Jake Ellenberger and a heavyweight bout between Stefan Struve and Dave Herman.

We'll review all the bouts on the card while taking you calls, emails, tweets and comments.

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WE AREEEEEEEEEEEEEE LIVE!
If an awesome fight happens but nobody sees it..

..did it actually happen?

That is how I feel about my play-by-play at Gals Guide. Awesome…but does it matter?

I'm the wrong person to ask about anything re Gal's Guide

For a variety of reasons.

I don’t know. I can get why it isn’t your thing with some of the pieces on there.

I used to hop over there once in a while

And never saw anything even remotely compelling. I mean, when the most thought provoking post of the week is a few people talking about why someone is their “pantydropper of the week”, I have no use for the site. And when you couple that with Nate promoting the site at the same time that they’re shutting down other SBN sites that had five times the readership, I just can’t bring myself to look anymore.

I get it. I try to bring myself to write some decent opinion pieces, and I’ve written a few. But we can’t get people to come over.

Kind of hard when the vast majority of MMA hardcore fans are males (like BE readers), and your site is named “Gals guide..” and is infamous for its “Pantydropper” pieces

Well

Jake Shields is hot

Yeah, I get that. Kind of puts me in a creative slump, but there isn’t much I can do in terms of that. I don’t run the site. C’est la vie, I suppose.

I’m sure there’s probably some good content there, I’m just not very interested in finding out considering the theme of the place. I guess I haven’t been there in at least a year or two, but yeah, I think I’ll stick to Mania and BE. No offense though

If you can bring some legitamacy to it, good on you

But there’s a stigma on that place for a reason. Years of trash content that’s targeted towards a niche in MMA is going to engrain the idea that there’s no reason to check it out. I don’t even think it’s about the idea that it’s “for gals”, as much as enough people have seen it enough times to write it off. To be perfectly honest, I don’t understand what purpose it serves, or why it hasn’t been cut yet.

I visit GGTMMA

Once a week. I legitimately don’t understand why you do play-by-play on there, though. Are you hoping to steal viewers from BE or are you hoping to entice casuals to stop by?

The SBN model is to flood the internets with content

Pageviews will come from search engine results, and if you’ve got the top three results (BE, Mania and Gal’s Guide, for example) you’re guaranteed to not only have more views, but also take away potential views from other news outlets.

Fair enough

I know that every time I google something MMA-related, a BE or SBN article shows up so I guess the plan is working.

Yep

At first one might think that it’s lame to do it, but at the end of the day more views = more ad revenue, and fewer views at other sites means advertisers will be more inclined to go SBN. It’s pretty smart, really.

It makes perfect sense

I guess I was underestimating the amount of people who google for p-b-p during a fight card.

It’s the same reason that every site does PBP, a result post per fight that night, and then a second fight recap the next day.

I know that much

You can’t run an MMA site without doing PBP, recap, etc. – I was merely wondering why SBN had several sites do PBP.

I want to see Diaz vs Sanchez 2, 5 rounds.

Man I wish this fight were 5 rounds manly violence would of occured
No disrespect to ellenberger,but you shouldn't get a title shot for beating shields and sanchez

But with the state of the division right now,I would understand the move.

Well, he kinda has a few wins before those two fights, too.

How is Shields not an impressive win?
If Diego was the priest, The Exorcist would have ended in 10 mins.

Anik hit his hyperbole quota by saying that was a candidate for fight of the year
"This was pegged as a potential fight of the year"

And it certainly didn’t disappoint.

STFU, Anik.

Fight of the century wasn't it?
Fight of the universe

Pyle
Howard
Rocha
Pierson
Shields
Sanchez

That is a nice run for a title shot

Agreed. Maybe one more top guy? I wouldn’t be upset about Hendricks getting a title shot if he beats Kos convincingly.

How about booking Ellenberger now, and then Hendricks for the next shot if GSP is still out. I definitely don’t think Condit deserves to wait out until GSP is back

Agreed

Why do an interim belt if the winner just waits for the champ? That just makes the interim title fight equal to a #1 contender bout.

Yep

They have 2 good candidates if Hendricks wins. He would also ge the nod for beating 2 of the guys that had been on top for a while (AKA guys)

Right at the end of the fight seeing the desperation in Elleberger's eyes as he was trying to avoid the punches on the cage didn't look great

Looked like he was really afraid to lose so he tried to take it to the ground (b4 the end flurry of course), maybe in favor of the hand injruy hypothesis

Diego is 2-2, arguably 1-3 in his return to WW, and lost the first round in all of his WW fights

Would it be best for Diego to just drop back to lightweight? I’m thinking Sanchez vs. Ben Henderson or Sanchez vs. Nate Diaz would be bonkers fights.

Love Snachez vs Diaz

If he stays at WW

Sanchez vs Diaz too

two?

As in Nick? Also like Sanchez/Miller or Cerrone if he dropped back again

Sanchez would brutalize Cerrone

I’m thinking Sanchez vs. Lauzon would be amazing.

Sanchez would outlast Lauzon

Lauzon is only dangerous for the first round and about one minute of the second.

That's the point

It’d be the most exciting 7 minutes of your life.

I don't disagree

At all.

Really? I think I;d have Cerrone but it would be a good fight. Pettis as well. LW is so awesome

I don't think it matters where he fights

A legit welterweight could wrassle him for days, but anyone that can shut down his walking forward will probably win. His cardio is his biggest advantage, and I don’t think that he’ll ever be a title contender at either weight.

For fun fights though, he’s probably best off at 170.

I think Sanchez is better at welterweight, he’s too small and weak at LW. He’ll continue to have technique deficiencies in either division though

I don't think that would be a good idea

I’ve heard in the past that he’s complained about having trouble making 155, so moving down could lead to him having even worse performances, especially as he’s getting older.

Diego needs to improve his boxing, which was always his weakness, if he wants to avoid becoming a gatekeeper. If he had better hands, defense, and footwork, he would have done significantly better in this fight.

I think it's fairly evident

The majority of Jackson fighters are not good boxers. Winkeljohn is probably overrated.

Look at the Jackson Stable – Guida (no), Jones (boxing is not good at all), Sanchez (no), Cerrone (garbage vs. Diaz), they’ve all got serious flaws in their boxing/striking in general offensively or defensively.

Jackson fighters have great chins for the most part and I think it masks the fact that if they didn’t have great chins they’d all be knocked out every other fight.

Jardine!

He’s so UNORTHODOX!

I forgot Jardine was even at Jackson's
You're right

If I was a Jackson fighter, I would find a local boxing coach and train my hands better if I felt that I wasn’t getting proper instruction in that area of fighting. Greg should have hired a good boxing coach for the Albuquerque gym a long time ago.

Isn’t Winklejohn usually 7 hours away at Colorado?

If Johny Hendricks knocks out Johny Hendricks

Then he’d be Gray Maynard.

Don't forget the winner of kampmann-alves as well
Diego Sanchez

Should fight Akiyama. FotN guaranteed.

Sanchez vs Nick fucking Diaz again
no
Why not

First fight + 10 times the craziness

Diaz might be out for a year though, for all we know

Oh yeah

forgot about that

Depends

If he yells at the commission meeting loud enough it might get reduced down to 6 months, maybe less.

For a 2nd offense?

Doubt it.. minimum six months like last time, but probably longer than that. I’m thinking a year. Guess we’ll find out come April

I hope he gets a year

But I’m not betting on it.

Diego Sanchez would probably knock out Matt Hughes with multiple missed punches
Dana White Boxercise Technique

If hunt beats struve will it be funnier looking than when Nelson did it?

Struve vs. Hunt would be a modern-day Big Nog vs. Barnett

With Mark Hunt’s new found side-control abilities.

struve vs russow might be interesting

similar career paths it seems

No prizes for menjivar-albert? great short fight, back and forth
Sub of the night
ah, missed that soz
I hope Dana realizes that Sweden hasn't even legalized five round fights, so Nogueira/Gustafsson ain't going five

So he must be talking about for the cards from June onwards.

John are you kidding me? Diego decisively lost the first two rounds and was knocked down

And was losing the 3rd until he got Ellenberger’s back.

No CroCop pants = KO

The croatian flag is haunted

iS Miocic the best prospect in HW division right now?

GURAM!

whats up with Guram? Kinda wanna see him fight

Keeps getting injured.

I’d have to say so.

Del Rosario

if he’s healthy

this guy > Del Rosario

I don't know man, they should fight

Jon Gruden vs Del Rosario sounds like a fun fight.

does Del Rosario have a fighht booked no?

Don't think so

He had a car accident and has been out for a while

I had 30-24 as well.

As I wrote in the live thread

30-26 was criminal.

Ellenberger-Sanchez got 50K FOTN

Well deserved

Nope

Albert-Menjivar deserved it.

I only watch the last three fights, what was great about that fight?

It was an insane

Back and forth. My favourite round of the year.

So where is everybody?

It’s like this every time – the live thread is crazy, a few of us make it to the BE radio thread and everyone else disappears.

Probably looking at the CW scores

It’s Wednesday night, most people have to go to work or school tomorrow morning

It's 6am where I am

School/work isn’t an excuse.

It’s already midnight in NY, hell, I shouldn’t even be up right now.

I'm here

how’d your team do?

Shit
good

we seemed to do okay. But our low scores were low

I just looked through the scores

8 out of 11 scored according to their draft position, +/- 5.

You have to think

The weight cut played a part in Rocha’s lack of ability to take a punch.

I didn’t understand the backing of Rocha. He is not good at striking and Brookins gets slept on by a lot of people. He isn’t as terrible as people make him out to be.

Speaking of Cody McKenzie…why don’t they do him versus Tiequan Zhang?

Visa issues

Too late to get a non-Japanese fighter in.

What's your pick for FotN, Matt and Brian?

Stann is good but waaaaaaay too aggresive

Brian Stann was great

Anik and Florian were terrible.

Everyone, please go to Mike Goldberg’s Twitter. @mfg16

His replies to fans being rude to him are really graphic and unintentionally hilarious.

I don't get Sanchez-Ellenberger as FotN

You’re basically saying that a 1-round fight can never be FotN if the main event is relatively decent.

Loeffler's foot is the biggest loser of the night
MARTIN KAMPMANN!

I wouldn’t miss that for the world. Looking forward to that! Thanks for tonight’s show, good stuff guys!

Missed the whole show...

Serves me right for watching the Fuel post-fight show =(

Thanks everybody for listening!

(Except for crazedfan!)

I'll listen extra hard tomorrow to make up for it
BAM

Talk to you then!

ah listening to the show now

Definately agree, Jake looked VULNERABLE in the last moments

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