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Going into UFC 143's welterweight interim title fight between Carlos Condit and Nick Diaz, the expectations were that Diaz would inevitably outstrike and wear down Condit with his unique blend of high-volume punching and incredible conditioning.
Diaz was expected to corner Condit up against the cage and box him up with barrages of arm punches that would slowly but surely accumulate and grind Condit down. Just like Diaz beat down B.J. Penn, Evangelista Santos, Paul Daley and so many others.
But it didn't happen like that because Condit and his coach Greg Jackson put together a game plan that defused Diaz' advantages and because Condit's conditioning proved to be more than a match for Diaz'. Diaz did back Condit up throughout most of the fight. Diaz relentlessly walked Condit down and struck when he backed against the fence. But just as often, Condit counter-struck and spun away, back to the center of the cage.
Judges Score Cards From Condit Vs. Diaz | Nick Diaz Announces Retirement After Loss
And while Diaz did out-punch Condit, Condit out-struck Diaz by out-kicking, out-kneeing and out-elbowing him over the course of the fight. Condit also picked up the pace in the championship rounds and really had Diaz frustrated in the fourth round. Diaz did come back at the end of the fifth to get a take down and attack Condit's throat and left arm, but he was unable to get the finish.
In the end, Condit took home a unanimous decision with all three judges agreeing that he'd won three rounds. They didn't agree about which three rounds he won but they all agreed he won three. CompuStrike showed that Condit outstruck Diaz 146-100, despite being outpunched 42-86. FightMetric scored it 306-274 for Condit with their unique but very apt scoring system.
The long and short of it is that Greg Jackson and Condit figured out how to beat Diaz and Condit executed on it.
SBN coverage of UFC 143: Diaz vs. Condit
0 recs | 134 comments
pretty frustrating fight to watch
But props to Condit, might have not been the most dramatic performance but if you have a way to beat your opponent you would do that to take the W
I was really impressed that he didnt get overwhelmed at all and had some really nice counters and slips.
I can root for GSP now atleast, should be a great showdown between two game planning fighters
elmojo - February 5, 2012
i just find it tough
to give a guy a fight that was backing up and counter attacking most of the fight. the whole fight i was thinking back to machida vs rampage and how that outcome went. i think its also very telling that most of the fighters scored 3-2 for diaz.
a side note. Diaz would be a beast back in the early UFC. if they only had weight classes but not clock and you have to win by ko or tap. Diaz would dominate that. His old coach on prime time was right. Diaz worst opponent is the time clock.
barzillatron - February 5, 2012
That really is the big issue when scoring. (and the value of a unused takedown) I absolutly think you can win a fight even if you not are the one walking forward. In my opinion landing strikes, and being able to dictate where the fight will take place should be worth more than being the one walking forward.
Shoulder - February 5, 2012
machida didnt land the strikes that condit did
JayT86 - February 5, 2012
Agreed
I am completely unbiased in this fight. i dont understand how people are saying condit just ran the whole fight or whatever. He engaged alot and he also countered alot. If Diaz cant corner him then thats his problem. Diaz should have changed his strategy. i realy dont think the fight was all that close, i think condit won the first 4 rounds. There is also alot of diaz dickriders out there who dont wana give carlos props. even joe rogan. I heard rogan say something like" i dont know if the judges are giving it to condit? i mean he is attacking and being aggressive but do the judges give points for that?" isnt aggression and octagon control right up there with effective striking and grappling. condit won, no doubt.
DSdouble - February 5, 2012
This is why belts are bad
Leading up to this fight Condit was a very exciting figther
Put a belt on the line
Now its a field goal kicking contest that noone wants to see.
AnotherBadPrediction - February 5, 2012
I think it is more of the fact that as you get towards the top it becomes harder and harder to get flashy KOs. I do not think it is a mindset change.
schm1583 - February 5, 2012
exactly
once you end up with the tougher guys in the upper echelon, finishes can be hard to come by.
Victor Rodriguez - February 5, 2012
There’s also the financial rewards to think about, though.
If I was going to fight Nick Diaz and knew the difference between winning and losing might be measured in millions of dollars every year, well, I know I’d probably tend towards a safer gameplan…
Bloody L - February 5, 2012
this^
Condit can play race to land a left hook with Dan Hardy, but you don’t want to do that with a guy like Diaz
T.P. Grant - February 5, 2012
What were you expecting Condit to do exactly? Diaz has proven time and time again to have a granite chin, and he traps his opponent against the cage. Why play Diaz’s game? It just seems ridiculous to do so. If it were another opponent, I can see Condit being a bit more risk-taking, but he’s fighting a guy in Diaz that has proven to be difficult to finish.
chrisbboy82 - February 5, 2012
I can’t speak for the guy you asked, but I expected Condit to fight the way that I have become accustomed to watching him fight, how he said he was going to fight in the lead up to tonight, and how the fight was promoted.
I did not expect Carlos Condit to fight like Andre Dirrel last night. It was honestly the last thing I thought would happen.
Imagine if this had headlined on Fox?
The Lethal Haze - February 5, 2012
Natural Born Killer my ass
natural born backpedaler. I expected a fight, not one guy trying to fight while the other guy ran away.
cbrody111 - February 5, 2012
I guess we were watching different fights.
It wasn’t a slugfest, but Condit was landing.
lolumad - February 6, 2012
Have to agree with you.
Condit needs a new nickname.
Mesonto - February 6, 2012
Love your stuff Nate, but Shogun solved Machida, Velasquez solved Lesnar. I’d say Condit hit and moved (and ran a bit) his way to a close, arguable decision win.
It won’t ever happen, but Diaz would thrive on a championship boxing time limit of 36 minutes. 5×5 isn’t long enough for a guy like that to really come in to his own.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
GTFO with that shit
So the only way to solve a fighter is to finish them? That might be one one the dumbest comments ever. And the 36 minute bullshit has been disproved by Nick himself. Lets just completely forget that Diaz had finished 10 of his last 11 wins in under 3 rounds. Seriously if you want to make an argument, have some damn facts to back it up.
Damon O. - February 5, 2012
So it wasn’t a close fight a lot of people scored for Diaz? And whats the fact Diaz finished opponents early before got to do with his durability? Diaz won round 5 that intimates he may have done well in a 6th. So chill out.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
You just killed your own argument
If they were using the 12 × 3 minute rounds, Diaz would have never even gotten Condit’s back. When you look at the big picture make sure you look at the whole picture and not just what you want to see.
Damon O. - February 5, 2012
Not missing a big picture. It’s pretty much accepted 3 minute rounds wouldn’ work in MMA exactly beacause of groundfighting. Still think an extra 5 minute round or two wouldn’t be a negative in championship fights. Thats looking at the big picture. The whole picture too.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
Yea
And you’re still looking at the picture the way you want to see it.
Damon O. - February 5, 2012
You could have 100 rounds
It wouldn’t make a difference. Nothing leads me to believe that Condit would have done anything but run away. I can’t believe people are praising this shit. Bottom line is one guy came to fight while the other came to score points. If you are into that scoring points shit here you go. I pay to watch fights, which is exactly why I won’t pay to see Condit/GSP.
cbrody111 - February 5, 2012
Are you the "just bleed guy"?
Some people see and appreciate technique and game planning. I like a slug fest but I appreciate technique more. You sound like the typical TAPOUT guy at the bar screaming at the TV because somebody isn’t getting thier head knocked off.
attgnp - February 5, 2012
Diaz couldn't adjust when Condit didn't want to play his game.
What’s up with BE today, anyway? I can understand arguing for a Diaz win, or being upset with how the fight played out, but saying Condit “ran away” the entire fight? That’s pretty ridiculous, man.
Your boy Nick got beat, big deal. I was rooting for him too, but Condit got the nod, and it wasn’t a robbery or even a terrible fight.
lolumad - February 6, 2012
Yeah right.
Diaz was only slowing down the more the fight went on. Carlos’ low kicks were accruing serious interest.
ElliotMatheny - February 5, 2012
The sport may have lost another actual "fighter" in Diaz
and gain another “athlete” in Condit. That being said I find it funny the judges were not on the same page for which rounds they gave to Condit, adds all the more controversy to this.
Hats off to Condit he did what he needed to do to win I guess.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
OMFG....
Have you SEEN any other Condit fight? Seriously? What a dumb fucking post.
Razreshat - February 5, 2012
Nope, Just another Diaz nuthugger who is bitterly disappointed and searching desperately for any excuse to cling to.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
exactly before this fight every knew who condit was now that this ONE fight happen now he’s kalib starnes? really the guy who didnt fight back AT ALL against nate quarry ?
Mac Marley - February 5, 2012
These are the same people that think Diego beat Kampmann
They clearly have no clue, Diaz lost that fight for himself by refusing to adapt his gameplan once his pressure/gas out opponent tactic didnt yield results.
This was no robbery, Just Condit using his brain to circle away from the cage and counter the numbskull walking straight forward into his punches… Its not rocket science but lets face it, Diaz has never been known as the most intelligent guy in MMA lol
Seeing that fight just showed me how little of a chance Diaz would have stood against GSP.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Would this go in the same school of thought as per say a
Machida v. Rampage, Chael v. Bisping or a Couture v. Vera? I like your point but in my opinion there are examples to the contrary as well.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Probably closer to Machida vs Rampage then the other 2
Bisping v Sonnen was decided by judges over rewarding the takedowns in rounds 1 and 2, Couture v Vera was more octagon control heavy.
To me this fight was Aggression/Octagon Control v Effective striking, It really depends on what you look for in a fight and value.
The way i saw it, Diaz pushed forward to maintain pressure and achieved octagon control at the same time but Condit was aggressively countering and using his footwork to avoid being pushed back into the cage and cornered but just because he wasnt walking forward it doesnt mean he is running away but circling off and around Diaz to maintain space to then continue his gameplan of countering.
Diaz has always been known to come forward, weather the storm and take a punch to get one off but in this fight he took more then he landed and his gas tank was matched by Condits which took away one of the advantages he usually enjoys.
Those were the deciding factors to me.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
All valid points.
If I had one wish for this fight I wish more grappling took place(or more attempts to grapple), would have been really interesting to see how that element would have added to the fight.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Diaz reminds me of BJ in that aspect
Too much pride to utilize their own true advantage, BJJ.
Too much ego to shoot for the takedown because “Thats pussy fighting!!” but this is MMA in 2012 and if you dont use your skills to take the fight where you have a significant advantage then you are ripping yourself off and have no right to complain when you lose as a result.
Nick’s boxing is good enough to stand with almost any WW but his BJJ would have to be close to being the best in the division other then possibly Jake Shields so why not use that advantage? Sloppy haymaker fests are cool to watch but give me the Gomi gogoplata any day of the week.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Diaz shot plenty of takedowns last night. Its just that he has shitty takedowns and Condit has really good TDD. Diaz should have attempted to pull guard whenever he backed Condit into the fence. He shoulda done whatever he needed to to get the fight to the ground.
The Lethal Haze - February 5, 2012
He didn't really try to take him down
He was trying to clinch, push him against the fence, then land body shots.
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
He dropped for a TD more than a few times against the fence.
He shot alot, for Nick Diaz. That is my point. They all just sucked and were shrugged off by Condit. The same way Diaz thew alot of kicks… for Nick Diaz.
The Lethal Haze - February 5, 2012
Uh.... This wasn't a fight
Takes two to tango, and only one dude actually came to fight. Defend Condit all you want, but that was some weak ass shit.
cbrody111 - February 5, 2012
The only thing weak is your attempt at a counter argument
Because WAH WAH WAH is all im hearing.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Sherdog is seriously in the house tonight.
lolumad - February 6, 2012
spot on
That’s the big take away of this fight for me. If Carlos Condit can safely outpoint you for the majority of a 5 round fight… you have a 0% chance of not getting outpointed by GSP.
And I did not find that fight enjoyable. Point fighting in MMA makes me sadface.
The Lethal Haze - February 5, 2012
I have and I now predict he will be fighting more closely to the Condit that fought diaz
Thats why im so disappointed, Condit talked big and played a points game. Its as simple as that.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Yeah those spinning back elbows/fists were just for funsies
He clearly didnt want them to land rolls eyes
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
This is Condit's first crack at the elite
I think he will tailor a game plan similar to this fight as he continues to face the top 5 of the division. Just my opinion.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Evolve or die
Throwing flying knees and high risk maneuvers is just stupid at the elite level where one tiny opening can result in you losing the round, Its just common sense.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
I agree but that doesnt mean I (as well as a good majority) dont prefer
fighters who are willing to take risks and relentlessly try to win the fight decisively.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
But we as fans are being unrealistic in thinking all fights are going to be Hendo vs Shogun
or Garcia vs Korean Zombie.
I appreciate this fight for what it was, A battle of wills and attrition that was tightly contested between two elite athletes.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
True
I dont have to question where your heads at with this bc of your sig. I just hope Condit v. GSP is a goodfight.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Haha Diaz whooped BJ
I accept that but it bears no meaning on how i feel about this fight.
INFACT, I had a double or nothing on Diaz to win worth $160 and am still here arguing that Condit won @ 2 am in the morning with my fiancee moaning to quieten down on the keyboard lol
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Nah wasnt a shot at them I like BJ and Shogun
Was just saying I know you are a fan of finishers as well, BJ and Shogun always bring it and hunt for the finish.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Neither one is a fighter so I doubt it
They might as well where pads and promise not to hit each other in the face. Make it a friendly exhibition match since neither guy actually wants to fight.
cbrody111 - February 5, 2012
Condit has a 93% finishing rate, stop throwing a tantrum.
lolumad - February 6, 2012
Throwing flying knees and high risk maneuvers is just stupid at the elite level, what? lol
Tell that to Jon Jones. If you are an elite level fighter that can pull off those “high risk” techniques then you should use everything in your arsenal. If you telegraph it like Melvin Guillard then ya you’re gonna pay against a high level fighter, but those “high risk” maneuvers end fights.
CyLoke - February 5, 2012
Stupid Aldo and dumb Jones, hm?
They seem to be able to put on outstandingly flashy fights without looking even remotely close to losing. Also: Anderson Silva. So it’s not like you can not fight in a crowd pleasing way and persist at the elite level.
KGNLuc - February 5, 2012
Comparing Condit to Anderson, Aldo or JBJ is also stupid
Those 3 fighters are once in a generation type fighters who are heads and shoulders above anyone else in their divisions with no known weaknesses.
I suppose it comes down to what kind of style your opponent uses, If he was a wrestler you’d be silly to throw too many kicks or flying knees as its likely going to end with you being on your back. Better now?
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
they all missed, so you are right they were just for funsies... rolls eyes several times
Mesonto - February 6, 2012
Do you realize that Condit was the WW Champ in the WEC...
and finished all 3 of his title defenses (2 subs, 1 KO) before being absorbed into the UFC?
Perfect evidence that Condit doesn’t fail to go for the finish in big fights.
I would suggest at least reading Condit’s Wikipedia page.
Razreshat - February 5, 2012
Seriously
If you want to see guys stand in the pocket and throw caution to the wind at the upper echelon of the sport, go watch some Tough Man competitions.
Damon O. - February 5, 2012
I find it funny that just about every fighter thought Nick won as well
I want to see guys that are fighting to win decisively not doing enough not lose. Thank you for your opinion though.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
every fighter like who? and whats the point of even bringing that up?
since it was the judges hands that Diaz left his fate in so who really gives a fuck who you or the “every fighter” thinks won because he didnt and thats all there is to it lol
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
not sure why its double posting since im on my lappy but cant edit or delete so gg
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
I'll prob get banned for this
http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/5/2772168/ufc-143-twitter-nick-diaz-vs-carlos-condit-pros-score
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Why would you possibly get banned for linking to a relevant and interesting piece from MMA Fighting?
Fraser Coffeen - February 5, 2012
Unless they are named Patricia Morse-Jarman, Junichiro Kamijo and Cecil Peoples.
I really dont give a shit.
Diaz walked forward, ate counters and lost a decision. Its THAT cut and dry.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
I love this comment.
Walking forward doesn’t mean he won. Condit was using movement to counteract Diaz’s strategy, which was to trap him against the fence and wail on his ribs and face. Condit stuck his combos and got out before Diaz did what he wanted, and made Diaz look bad.
T.C. Engel - February 5, 2012
Condit ate a lot of huge shots early in that fight
I don’t see how Diaz looked bad. Diaz didn’t get a chance to land, but when he did he fired some head snapping shots.
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
Diaz looked bad because he didnt adapt and kept plugging away with a failing strategy
The writing was on the wall in the 3rd and 4th round, Gone was the taunting and dropping of hands because he knew the fight was slipping away from him and STILL didnt change his approach.
That takedown in the 5th was the only reason i even gave him that round and even then Condit’s hand/wrist control was impeccable.
Condit deserved this win.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Diaz has a terrible corner
I still thought he won, but it was pretty close. I thought you could score the second, third, and fifth for him.
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
Third? Im sorry but that was easily Condit's strongest round
I gave Diaz the 1st and 5th, I can see an argument for the 2nd possibly but thats about it, Condit easily took the 3rd and 4th in my books.
In saying that, I dont know how 2 of the judges scored that fight 4 49-46, It was 48-47 Condit.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Then again an argument could be made for Condit winning the 1st also.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Agreed.
Was just stating that your not off your meds if you thought Diaz won, its not that wild of a thought.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Wasn't sure on the policy for linking to other sites
Sorry I’ve been in forums where they dont look too kind on it. Forgive the ignorance.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
No worries. We’re generally fine with it, and MMA Fighting in particular is under the same corporate umbrella as we are, so no issues at all.
Fraser Coffeen - February 5, 2012
I promised I wouldn't comment on this fight anymore, but this made me break it
@jonfitchdotnet
Jon Fitch
I think condit won
Dave Strummer - February 5, 2012
Thanks for the link Chute. But everybody who thought Diaz won ain’t nothing but a goon who can only appreciate drunken red necks brawling it out in good ol’ toughman.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
easy on the name calling
Nate Wilcox - February 5, 2012
Haha
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Or we prefer guys that actually fight
Not run away for 5 rounds.
cbrody111 - February 5, 2012
Most?
So 10 of 20 tweets think Diaz won (2 of them train with him) and you say most fighters? Reaching there a bit aren’t we?
Damon O. - February 5, 2012
Im not bc the others say it was a draw. How many actually gave the nod to Carlos?
But thats not the point was just responding to the user that said you are mentally handicap if you thought Diaz won.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
My bad
Misread and responded while reading other nonsense.
Damon O. - February 5, 2012
No worries
It would normally be a fallacious argument on my part but just had to point it out that us nuthuggers aren’t alone haha
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
talk about reaching
of the 20 tweets that were posted:
14 said Diaz won, or expressed anger at Condit running
4 said Condit won
1 said draw
and Miguel Torres made a joke.
Seems like you’re mad that people who fight for a living saw the fight differently than you did.
The Lethal Haze - February 5, 2012
Great.
And GSP has the game plan to beat all the other middle weights in the UFC. I’m glad we’ll all be praising GSP for his masterful, technical game planning henceforth, and not calling him out for point-fighting and low-risk decisioning.
IKiIIed007 - February 5, 2012
This makes me so happy
Never been a fan of Nick and hearing of him losing makes me smile. You scared homie?
attgnp - February 5, 2012
Can I have a option to rec to infinity?
Razreshat - February 5, 2012
AMEN.
Im as happy as a pig in shit that Diaz and all his nuthuggers got put in there place.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Your guy won… why be a sore winner and troll his opponent’s fans?
The Lethal Haze - February 5, 2012
"their"
Right. As long as you acknowledge that this is all Diaz hate. People have a right to be disappointed in a fight which, if GSP had done what Condit did, would have led to whining about GSP’s style.
IKiIIed007 - February 5, 2012
Hes not "my guy" so to speak
But surely you saw the bullshit they have ALL been talking since Nick beat BJ and Nate beat Cowboy, From “Nick is a P4P great” and “Nick will beat GSP and be champ in 2012” to “Nate could beat BJ too!”, Give me a fucken break!!!
This was a much needed reality check.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Nate, you should say that the judges agreed Condit won at least three rounds, since two of them gave him four.
Otherwise, good stuff. While not the brawl I expected, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the implementation of the perfect gameplan. You have to be able to adjust when you can’t impose your will, and Diaz did not.
KingBrody - February 5, 2012 via mobile
God i love how butthurt all the Diaz nuthuggers are right now
Totally makes this win for Condit so, so much sweeter.
Diaz got beaten at his own game and i couldnt be happier about it hahahaha
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
right its so sweet right now all the fighters and people who think nick diaz won honestly you need mental help. i think i read the best summary of this loser and his excuses: loses to wrestlers their gay and they lnp, loses to smarter fighter he’s a point fighter and not a real fighter. dude this is someones life here and if standing in front of a guy and getting hit not winning wins fights i dont wanna be a fan of this sport
Mac Marley - February 5, 2012
Bye
Razreshat - February 5, 2012
you sound like my ex are you hurt as well that your not a pretty as the chick im with now? i love when nick diaz loses it really brings out that hatred outta yalll i feel like oj winning the trial :)
Mac Marley - February 5, 2012
Mac you’re a real intellectual.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
All the people who thought Diaz won need mental help? How about actual fighters
Hendo, Lauzon, Ellenberger. Rousey, Coenen, Yves edwards, Josh Neer, Mark Munoz, to name a few. There are some that thought Condit won but the overwhelming majority thought it was Diaz.
ChuteLegend - February 5, 2012
Diaz left his fate in the hands of the judges and lost.
Its really that simple.
Diaz lost because he continued to walk forward and eat counters instead of utilising his grappling/submission advantage and paid for it, Then proceeded to throw a hissy fit post fight like a sore loser.
He hit a road block and quit, Hardly champion material.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
If Diaz took Condit down and chilled on his back for three rounds
You probably would have lost your shit.
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
Im not playing the maybe game with you
Its just pointless.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
Then don't play then I guess?
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
I......didnt?! lol
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
wow, I didn't know that Ronda Rousey thought Nick won...
that really changes the way I look at this sport. I clearly have a lot to think about.
Bdnoyes - February 5, 2012
lol
beat me to it
Randy Daytona - February 5, 2012 via Android app
Other then Hendo i couldnt care less about any of those fighters listed
You forgot Cody McKenzie LOL
Anyway Hendo/Coenen/Rousey/Cung Le/Kennedy are all biased Strikeforce haters, Neer just trained with the Diaz’s so no brainer, Yves who admits he wanted Diaz to win and only commenting on Condit not winning 4 rounds so that leaves Ellenberger and Munoz…. Meh?!
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
To be fair I think Rousey and Neer have trained with Diaz in the past.
castleeb - February 5, 2012
i like how when jon jones ,lyoto machida and countless other fight smart like condit did they never get told they where running. this fight pretty much sums up how little our sport has grown in maturity guy out classes a guy and he’s called a bitch for it really ? oh but you like the guy who constantly acts like he’s 8 years old
Mac Marley - February 5, 2012
Jon Jones finishes the best of the best in his weight class
IKiIIed007 - February 5, 2012
waaa waaa
I got beat but I’m not accepting this loss
for years I have complained I’m not making any money
now you pay me too much
I’m out
baby leg kicks
waaa waaa
I’m out of this shit
chillnnsht - February 5, 2012
I give Condit his due, but I hate where this is going..
Nor do I blame him (and Greg Jackson). This is about winning, and standing in front of Nick trying to land bigger bombs was not where it’s at. Still, the many times I saw Condit literally turn and run away kind of disgusted me. Again, I can’t knock it when the result is a win, but maybe it would seem better if there were at least some leg sweeps or takedown attempts mixed in instead of turning coat and running away.
Opinion poll: What’s going to be more exciting GSP vs Condit or GSP vs Diaz?
DayuumHeGotDropped - February 5, 2012
Diaz would have got worked.
That fight just confirmed it for me.
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
running away
Why is it when you move to put yourself in a better position its called running away?
kieranski - February 5, 2012
Because its an easy excuse to make when ur hero gets beaten
Call at clutching at the convenient straw lol
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
After reading the posts in this story, all I can think is, what happened to the banhammer?? Two years ago, half of these comments would’ve been flagged and at least warned. I’m very close to finding a new site to visit 25 times a day. What a disgrace.
ANance - February 5, 2012 via mobile
yeah
loads of people have been getting away with fighter bashing recently, but its probably due to the site not being as monitored as it used to be.
elmojo - February 5, 2012
Yup
That’s what brought me here in the first place, good stories, intelligent discussions, and great comment monitoring. Oh well I guess.
ANance - February 5, 2012 via mobile
The blind hate and ignorance spewing from both sides is really killing the mood here
Can’t we all just get along?
sun yue - February 5, 2012
I had to pick up my toys and go home from this argument
If I had to have one more random lurker with 12 comments call me ignorant I was going to lose it.
Dave Strummer - February 5, 2012
we're trying to keep up with the volume of comments
but its just murder.
Nate Wilcox - February 5, 2012
I know you guys try, maybe make people pass some sort of quiz before approving their membership! Hahaha
ANance - February 5, 2012 via mobile
Greg Jackon is great at figuring out fighter's weaknesses
and just as great at making me regret paying $60 for a fight card
dbcb - February 5, 2012
ding!
Dave Strummer - February 5, 2012
I still dont understand why you guys pay $60 USD and we pay $45 AUD
Shit in New Zealand its $30 NZD… What gives?
Chin Check - February 5, 2012
I have no idea. But...
If I had to guess, I would imagine that the UFC brass think that that price point is appropriate for NZ given the level of interest there, and given the cost of possible alternative entertainment.
PlantingaFan - February 5, 2012
Probably
because the USD isn’t worth shit anymore
attgnp - February 5, 2012
USD is still worth alot more then the NZD
And isnt too far off the AUD, I think Plantingafan was on point.
Chin Check - February 6, 2012
I don't really understand the disappointment
I am disappointed by the disappointment, actually. I found the fight to be a buffet of technical standup fighting and counter-fighting. Very tense, very exciting. Condit simply has a bigger tool-chest than Diaz and if being a good puncher was all that was need to be a great MIXED martial artist, we’d have a pretty dull sport in my opinion.
What I liked most about the fight is the methodical, cagey dismantling of the Diaz enigma over the course of five rounds. Condit didn’t fall into the “let’s brawl, you pussy” mentality that seems to be plaguing this sport’s fandom.
I for one do not want endless repeats of Frye/Takayama. I’ll take Diaz/Condit any day.
jackbox - February 5, 2012
agreed
Really enjoyed this fight. Friend of mine who is more casual did too, even after hearing all the ridiculous hype.
Violent Newt - February 5, 2012
I think a lot of "fans" just want this:
jackbox - February 5, 2012
That's what I was hoping for, yes.
And that’s what I was promised by both fighters and the promoter. I was told that one never stops coming forward like the terminator and will eat any punishment to get the kill, and the other has the best finish rate in the UFC and will throw everything he has into trying to finish you.
Well, the first fighter performed as advertised, but the second one fought a masterful, technical fight based on movement. OK, fine. That’s what GSP does, too. I guess we won’t hear any complaints about him in the future.
IKiIIed007 - February 5, 2012
Nick won.
Carlos didn’t solve shit.
RolloTomasi - February 5, 2012
MicahtheCynic - February 5, 2012
BULLSHIT
Rod Mapada - February 5, 2012
Actually no. Nick lost
attgnp - February 5, 2012
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