MMA's odd couple -- Dana White & Ariel Helwani -- had their usual chat after UFC 143.
This story was updated at 4:30 PM EST.
MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani caught up with Dana White after UFC 143 for their customary chat, asking the boss what he thought about the night's proceedings and what could be next for his new interim welterweight champion. Helwani actually interviewed White twice, once for MMA Fighting and another time for Fuel TV.
He used movement to not fight the fight Diaz wants? You act like Carlos did nothing but run away. He cut angles and hit Nick with countless different techniques. Is Nick a "chicken shit’ for shooting takedowns like the guys he says are “bitches”?
The absolute reason this was even remotely controversial is because the darling golden boy Nick Diaz. If it had been against anyone else no one would say shit.
If Condit looked like he was actually human cock fighting, I would give him his props. I dont find a free live stream just to watch a karate tournament
Condit was throw everything in his arsenal at Diaz? He was just jabbing and doing nothing? He was trying to put it on Nick without being baited into Diaz gameplan of stand in from of me so I can throw 1000 punches and finish you.
the point is, i was not entertained as a fan. i paid money to watch this main event on ppv and was not entertained because of the way Condit fought
i’m pissed and don’t give a shit it was Condit’s gameplay to go into the octagon and fight like that against Diaz. may be next time if Condit is on a card, i just won’t buy it because of knowing how Condit would peform.
adaptability and versatility is the name of the game, if you think condit will fight like that against every future opponent, i dont even know what to say to that.
his performance was cutout to fight nick diaz, he did what GSP does, fight against his opponents strength and make him feel helpless. anyone who fights the phone booth fight against diaz bros comes out with a L, that much was already established, even paul daley couldn’t handle it.
these championship caliber fighters design their strategy based on their opponent, nothing is concrete or permanent.
Have you see Condit fight before? They're hardly boring...
I’m at a loss for words here. Ever heard of the term “styles make fights”? So your saying that Condit should allow himself to be pressed into the cage and allow a superior combination fighter to pummel his face in? Or risk the ground game of a legit Gracie BBJ black belt?
Condit wanted to win and hedged his bets in his favor. I just don’t understand your line of thinking. If your a “JUST BLEED” douche bag go watched pro wrestlin. That way you know what your paying for. I prefer to watch real fights and interesting technical match ups.
I thought it was strange when I didn’t see the finish line. But I am sure someone handed Carlos some Gatorade when he was running past the cage a couple of times.
whenever a diaz loses there is uproar, i still remember the video nate put out after losing to maynard. its like these 2 take absolutely no responsibility of the outcome, and everything is on their opponent and his fighting style.
Nick Diaz the darling golden boy? Maybe to his mom! He’s exciting to watch and a unique character, so people wanted to see him in aginst St.Pierre, but he’s anything but a promoters pet.
its not that many people, majority of fans scored the fight for carlos. its no where near the level of dispute as machida/shogun 1, or even penn/edgar 1.
Great way to make a good impression with Zuffas new partners Goldberg. Who doesn’t love a guy who runs around in public with no shirt on for absolutely no reason?
Had nothing to do with Fox. You have absolutely no idea what Goldberg was doing so leave the man alone for once. Atleast he knows how to speak into a mic properly without scream. Joe could learn a thing or two from Mike.
Don’t sit through it. I know it’s fun to talk crap about Goldberg but damn he did absolutely nothing wrong lastnight. Who do you think could do a better job in his position? Sir twitch alot Anik?
But he does screw up more then other people on the broadcast. For me its unacceptable for him to talk about say an upcoming fight is at 145 (caceres and fig) when it says bantamweight under their pictures and faces.
Glad to see somebody else got pissed at the Fedor comment
As Fedor is the greatest heavyweight of all time, IMO (sure I’m about to get flamed, but he is). I doubt Goldy even believes what he said though; may have just been taking a shot for brownie points with DW.
Comparing some nasty MT to another case of nasty MT makes sense to me. The Matt Brown thing is somewhat true he is usually in exciting fights. I’m sure he was just exaggerating about him “never” being in a boring fight.
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"That was weird"
lol.
sklart - February 5, 2012
The look on Dana's face was priceless
HitokiriX - February 5, 2012
when White spoke of Condit's movement in the ring, he looked away and actually meant "chicken shit".
daftshadow - February 5, 2012
He's a "chicken shit" because
He used movement to not fight the fight Diaz wants? You act like Carlos did nothing but run away. He cut angles and hit Nick with countless different techniques. Is Nick a "chicken shit’ for shooting takedowns like the guys he says are “bitches”?
40 Cal. - February 5, 2012 via Android app
no I think Dana generally approved of that nonsense
unambig - February 5, 2012 via iPhone app
Of the CENTURY? Or are you being sarcastic in your sig?
TheLastEmpress - February 5, 2012
I'm not being sarcastic
unambig - February 5, 2012
Go easy on the guy
This is the first event he’s watched.
HaterSlayer - February 5, 2012
according to helwani...
a UD win is a controversial end ? it was no machida/shogun 1, that’s for sure.
carmine99 - February 5, 2012
I said this before and I'll say it again.
The absolute reason this was even remotely controversial is because the darling golden boy Nick Diaz. If it had been against anyone else no one would say shit.
doomrider7 - February 5, 2012
You are wrong
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
So wrong
If Condit looked like he was actually human cock fighting, I would give him his props. I dont find a free live stream just to watch a karate tournament
Deim0sRising - February 5, 2012
Are you really that delusional?
Condit was throw everything in his arsenal at Diaz? He was just jabbing and doing nothing? He was trying to put it on Nick without being baited into Diaz gameplan of stand in from of me so I can throw 1000 punches and finish you.
40 Cal. - February 5, 2012 via Android app
you sir
shouldn’t be bring reason and logic to a mma forum
inthepipes - February 5, 2012
I think he was being sarcastic...
At least, hope thats what it was…
Ryjo - February 5, 2012 via mobile
is exactly carlos’ gameplan
inthepipes - February 5, 2012
the point is, i was not entertained as a fan. i paid money to watch this main event on ppv and was not entertained because of the way Condit fought
i’m pissed and don’t give a shit it was Condit’s gameplay to go into the octagon and fight like that against Diaz. may be next time if Condit is on a card, i just won’t buy it because of knowing how Condit would peform.
daftshadow - February 5, 2012
that would be your loss.
adaptability and versatility is the name of the game, if you think condit will fight like that against every future opponent, i dont even know what to say to that.
his performance was cutout to fight nick diaz, he did what GSP does, fight against his opponents strength and make him feel helpless. anyone who fights the phone booth fight against diaz bros comes out with a L, that much was already established, even paul daley couldn’t handle it.
these championship caliber fighters design their strategy based on their opponent, nothing is concrete or permanent.
carmine99 - February 5, 2012
Have you see Condit fight before? They're hardly boring...
I’m at a loss for words here. Ever heard of the term “styles make fights”? So your saying that Condit should allow himself to be pressed into the cage and allow a superior combination fighter to pummel his face in? Or risk the ground game of a legit Gracie BBJ black belt?
Condit wanted to win and hedged his bets in his favor. I just don’t understand your line of thinking. If your a “JUST BLEED” douche bag go watched pro wrestlin. That way you know what your paying for. I prefer to watch real fights and interesting technical match ups.
Danthemmaman - February 5, 2012
TROLL
outcircuit - February 5, 2012
I AM SO ANGRY THAT CONDIT FOUGHT TO WIN AND NOT TO ENTERAIN ME!
jesus, bro
Enmascarado - February 5, 2012
Oh, I thought he was there to race.
I thought it was strange when I didn’t see the finish line. But I am sure someone handed Carlos some Gatorade when he was running past the cage a couple of times.
Mesonto - February 6, 2012
yes it quickly went from fight of the century to let down of the year
unambig - February 5, 2012 via iPhone app
robbery of the century ?
good god man, with that sig, you expect to be taken seriously ?
carmine99 - February 5, 2012
I don't expect anything
But in my opinion it’s the biggest robbery I’ve ever seen in the UFC and I’ve seen them all. Even the crappy TUF episodes.
unambig - February 5, 2012 via iPhone app
whatever
i scored the fight for carlos, i cant even make a case for diaz as a split-d let alone call it a robbery.
carmine99 - February 5, 2012
Ha!
Kefka - February 5, 2012
agreed
whenever a diaz loses there is uproar, i still remember the video nate put out after losing to maynard. its like these 2 take absolutely no responsibility of the outcome, and everything is on their opponent and his fighting style.
carmine99 - February 5, 2012
Nick Diaz the darling golden boy? Maybe to his mom! He’s exciting to watch and a unique character, so people wanted to see him in aginst St.Pierre, but he’s anything but a promoters pet.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
it's controversial because many people, myself included, believe Diaz won 49-46
unambig - February 5, 2012 via iPhone app
its not that many people, majority of fans scored the fight for carlos. its no where near the level of dispute as machida/shogun 1, or even penn/edgar 1.
carmine99 - February 5, 2012
I also had it either 49-46 Diaz or at minimum 48-47 Diaz
Mesonto - February 6, 2012
Great way to make a good impression with Zuffas new partners Goldberg. Who doesn’t love a guy who runs around in public with no shirt on for absolutely no reason?
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
This was a ppv and
Had nothing to do with Fox. You have absolutely no idea what Goldberg was doing so leave the man alone for once. Atleast he knows how to speak into a mic properly without scream. Joe could learn a thing or two from Mike.
40 Cal. - February 5, 2012 via Android app
I have absolutely no idea what he’s doing when i have to sit through his commentaries either, so i definitely won’t leave him alone.
sheikybaby - February 5, 2012
Here's a simple solution to that
Don’t sit through it. I know it’s fun to talk crap about Goldberg but damn he did absolutely nothing wrong lastnight. Who do you think could do a better job in his position? Sir twitch alot Anik?
40 Cal. - February 5, 2012 via Android app
im not shitting on goldie hes great
But he does screw up more then other people on the broadcast. For me its unacceptable for him to talk about say an upcoming fight is at 145 (caceres and fig) when it says bantamweight under their pictures and faces.
benten20 - February 5, 2012 via mobile
Really?
Every single person I’ve ever spoke with about MMA has made the same mistake of saying the wrong weightclass. He slipped up everyone does it.
40 Cal. - February 5, 2012 via Android app
the best was when they started talking about jose aldo for five minutes during the barao fight, everybody in the bar was like " come on..."
alibabarouge - February 5, 2012 via mobile
He could have lost a bet, which is what it sounds like.
mikeI981j - February 5, 2012 via mobile
He bet on Diaz.
jcbrewer - February 5, 2012
On a related note
Goldberg actually was that bad tonight, outside of a couple usual Goldbergisms.
discoandherpes - February 5, 2012
yep see my above comment idk if u noticed what he did
benten20 - February 5, 2012 via mobile
They only way Goldy could be considered good yesterday is by the rock bottom standards he's set for himself.
Fedor was a myth, Werdum’s clinch was like Anderson Silva’s, Matt Brown has never been in a boring fight, minute plus lapses between calling action…
pdl - February 5, 2012
Glad to see somebody else got pissed at the Fedor comment
As Fedor is the greatest heavyweight of all time, IMO (sure I’m about to get flamed, but he is). I doubt Goldy even believes what he said though; may have just been taking a shot for brownie points with DW.
Ryjo - February 5, 2012 via mobile
I don't get the Fedor comment but
Comparing some nasty MT to another case of nasty MT makes sense to me. The Matt Brown thing is somewhat true he is usually in exciting fights. I’m sure he was just exaggerating about him “never” being in a boring fight.
40 Cal. - February 5, 2012 via Android app
I wonder if Goldie is on the white stuff
He was a little weird tonight. I could have sworn he put on a sarcastic voice when setting up the fight
unambig - February 5, 2012 via iPhone app
fucking grammar, how does it work?
nick DIAZ’S retirement
FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum - February 5, 2012
obviously Nick Diaz is like Jesus
historical characters and things don’t need the additional s!
according to one of the books about english that I have read. which contradicts a lot of people’s habits.
mollcutpurse - February 5, 2012
Wrong, you fail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Singular_nouns_ending_with_an_.22s.22_or_.22z.22_sound
ElliotMatheny - February 5, 2012
thanks for the link!
FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum - February 5, 2012
Selective exclusion
ElliotMatheny - February 5, 2012
diaz vs koscheck would be a sick fight
fergler - February 5, 2012
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Make Diaz/Kos happen!
jackbox - February 5, 2012
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