Welcome back to my online diary documenting my very amateur experience training in Muay Thai. If you missed the previous entries on Bloody Elbow, read them here.
My ongoing battle with kicks continued this week, though with positive results. Our main focus was leg kicks, which is something I have addressed in recent entries. They continue to not quite come naturally to me, but I felt better this time around. But after that, we moved on to a favorite of mine - the push kick.
In last week's comments, reader the jewish conquistador mentioned that he is not a fan of the push kick, which I find so surprising. I find this to be a great kick that is not utilized nearly enough in MMA. Since the famous Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort KO, there has been no shortage of front kicks, but the push kick, or teep, remains rather elusive.
To clarify, what Silva threw was a front kick where the force moved upwards in an arch. Think of it as the kicking equivalent of an uppercut. You see a lot of these now, with MMA fighters looking to replicate Silva's highlight reel KO. The push kick is different as the momentum goes straight into and through your opponent's body - the kick equivalent of a jab to the body. And you don't see them as much in MMA. Josh Thomson has long had a solid push kick, as has Carlos Condit, and other fighters use them at times, but it is not that common.
The complaint I guess I can see about this kick is that it is not always a high impact kick, and is more used to create distance. But like a jab, that's only as true as you want it to be. If you commit to the push kick and dig it in, there's no reason you can't do real damage. In our drills we worked a nice double push kick combo - starting in orthodox, through a left push kick with your lead leg. When it lands, use that forward momentum to step in and throw a second kick with your right leg. By taking a good step on the left and adding a bit of extra hop to my right, I was able to solidly connect with that second kick and drive it into my opponent's belly. The end result is a kick that both gets my opponent out of range, while also working his body and taking away his energy.
Is it an instant KO? No. And maybe that's the problem - much of MMA striking is focused on the big KO so a long-term strategy like working the body with punches and push kicks doesn't get used as much. With fans angry that Carlos Condit dared try and use strategy against Nick Diaz instead of go all out for the KO, is this a problem with MMA striking. Is it too KO-focused? Perhaps a good question for next week...
Question of the week: In your opinion, how effective are push kicks?
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Nice write-up.
I don’t think the push kick is used much in MMA cause it can be caught easier than other kicks. But just like any effective kick, proper timing and distance can make the difference between rocking your opponent or ending up on your back.
I_Mad - February 7, 2012 via mobile
That's a matter of retraction speed more than anything else.
I think alot of people get lazy with their kicks, and don’t retract it fast enough. If you watch a guy like Yohan Lidon, his teep is so crisp, he can fire it with zero windup or telegraphing, and noone ever catches it.
ElliotMatheny - February 8, 2012
For a long time..
..I utilised the snap kick well off the rear leg. I practically abandoned it in my attempts to throw good push kicks, but never really succeeded in performing them. My kickboxing coach grew up a kung fu guy, so we did things a little different.
To answer your question – I like(d) to check their movement with the push kick, make them try and barge in to get past it and have some straight punches waiting for them, or push someone back so I could follow up with aggressive punches. Not something I was ever really good with though.
Other than the reason IMad left, the push kick is great for arresting the movement of guys coming straight in just as it’s starting. The distance & rhythm of mma is all wrong for that. Guys stand further away and can explode forward, so are already moving in with speed when they are at the perfect range. Then they stay real close, tie up & wrestle.
ToffeeA - February 7, 2012
For Thai or MMA?
Obviously there’s a lot more opportunity to use them in pure Muay Thai. The speed at which the Thais throw them is exceptional and if you’re able to chain them together (akin to Buakaw) they can be much more than a ‘foot jab’. I was rarely able to do it, but a great use of the technique is to catch your opponent just as he throws a roundhouse kick – if you time it correctly this will usually send him reeling or even remove his balance completely.
Worth - February 7, 2012
I'm a big fan of the push kick
And use them all the time with both my front and rear legs. I think their usefulness depends on your game, though; I want to maintain kicking range, so obviously the push kick is an essential tool for that.
My coach taught us a nifty setup for a potentially devastating push kick that I thought I’d share: pivot on the front foot and rotate your hips like you’re going to throw a rear leg round kick, and instead throw a snapping front kick to the liver. I’ve found it to be pretty effective.
Patrick Wyman - February 7, 2012
The push kick is very under-utilized in MMA but like someone said above they are easier to catch. I would also like to see the lead leg side kick ala Cung Le and Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson used alot more. Lead leg side kick (or a lead leg push kick) to the stomach followed by a rear leg round house is a great combo
420mike - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Nice write up
I’m a big fan of the push kick, too. It definitely isn’t used enough in MMA. I remember watching Seth Petruzelli use push kicks against Kimbo in their fight. It immediately threw Kimbo off his stride and helped back him up aginst the cage. Such a simple kick, but so effective if your opponent doesn’t know how to handle them.
@KatanaClothing - February 7, 2012
One thing I think is great about the teep-
it works very well in a combo. It’s very easy to throw a push kick, and follow up with a straight punch from the opposite side. One of my favorite combos is also to throw the push kick, and use it to step right into a hard low kick. The teep automatically creates enough space for a low kick, the opponent is just getting their footing back, and the forward momentum works beautifully for the round kick. I seriously land that combo all the time in sparring.
Teeps are great though, and can work really well in a fighter’s game. Jon Jones basically never jabs with his lead hand, but uses the push kicks (especially to the chest and knees) as his range controlling workhorse.
ElliotMatheny - February 8, 2012
does this make sense?
I’m no technical expert, so this may be completely wrong (read: probably is), but wouldn’t a push kick – Superman punch combo work pretty well? In my head I see doing the kick, then using the momentum from the leg swinging back to do the Superman punch as the guy is recovering/coming forward after the kick.
does that make sense at all?
Sean in Vancouver - February 8, 2012
Ultimate punch
youfailme91 - February 8, 2012 via mobile
It could be done.
ElliotMatheny - February 8, 2012
I like that a lot. Push kick to hard low kick. Sounds slick.
NickRingp4pGOAT - February 8, 2012
Yeah man, try it out on the bag next time you have a chance.
ElliotMatheny - February 8, 2012
Did you learn this trick yet?
truck - February 8, 2012
I broke an opponent's ribs with this kick in October.
I have a picture of it taking him off his feet as it landed.

lrgfsh - February 8, 2012
Brutal
ElliotMatheny - February 8, 2012
Great picture. Well done!
Fraser Coffeen - February 8, 2012
Front leg kicks in Muay Thai, kickboxing, and MMA
There’s a lot of different styles of front kicks; below I’m going to focus on the Thai style front leg teep, with no switch-step or slide-in. While this is a critically important technique for Muay Thai, I do not believe it should be a bread-and-butter technique for MMA fighters. There are other front kicks that are more useful for MMA, addressed at the end.
In pure Muay Thai, the front-leg teep is a critical part of the fighter’s arsenal. Like the jab, it is used to maintain distance, control the opponent’s position, or elicit a reaction. It can even be used to check a leg kick or push the guard open (more advanced uses). It’s a fast, non-telegraphed technique that doesn’t leave you over-extended if you miss. Many Thai instructors will teach their fighters to rely on the jab and teep if they are at a loss of what to do; once they see the opponent’s reactions they can find an opening for more aggressive offense.
Under Japanese or Dutch kickboxing rules, the technique still has its uses, but the scoring system and faster pace of the fight makes the Thai style front kick riskier. There are many causes behind this. For example, if a Thai fighter notices that his opponent charges very quickly through the teep’s effective range in order to land mid-range punches, a common counter is to land a knee on the incoming aggressor. In a Thai stadium, if both fighters landed, the knee-strike would probably beat the punch on judge’s scorecards. However, outside of Thailand, where knees and clinchwork are less emphasized, the puncher would probably win. Another is that Japanese and Dutch kickboxers (who mostly fight 3 minutes 3 rounds) generally use faster, more explosive footwork to move in and out of range, while Thais (who mostly fight 3 minutes 5 rounds) like to conserve energy and use more subtle footwork. Landing a teep on a fast target that may be rotating at the same time is much more difficult than landing it on a stationary target. In other words, outside of Thailand the front leg teep (while still very useful) is not quite as safe and conservative as it is in Thailand.
In MMA, the traditional Thai-style front-leg teep is no longer a low risk technique. The reasons why it’s riskier in non-Thai kickboxing are true to an even greater degree in MMA. Small gloves and high KO potential make pinpoint accuracy on the teep that much important to keep an incoming puncher from landing, and MMA fighters can be even more explosive in their footwork than kickboxers when moving in. Additionally, there is a new risk — the takedown. While catching teeps is a common strategy in the kickboxing world (often followed by a takedown, punch, or knee strike; Buakaw KO’d Sato Yoshihiro in 2006 and knocked down Black Mamba in 2008 by catching their teeps and following it up with a left hook), most of the time a caught kick won’t result in a large difference on scorecards. However, in MMA if a teep is caught and followed with a takedown, that can lose the entire round for the kicker. Since the kick has very little potential for damage without a switch-step or step-in, it becomes a moderate risk / low return technique (instead of the low risk / low return technique that it is under Muay Thai rules).
While there are other types of front kicks that cause more damage and may be more viable in MMA, I think the threat of a takedown alone makes the Thai front-leg teep a technique that should only be used when you know the opponent has no intention of taking you down. Without the teep to help manage distance, control the opponent, and elicit reactions, I believe fighters should rely on other low-risk techniques to accomplish the same goals; examples include the step-in jab, feints, lowering elevation, and footwork.
In the above paragraphs, I only addressed the traditional Thai style front-leg teep thrown to the abdomen or chest. Outside of this kick, there are many other types of front kicks that are useful in MMA. Three out of four are substantially riskier than the front-leg teep, and therefore cannot be used as a low-risk / low-reward technique to control the opponent, but they also do more damage to balance this higher risk.
- Gracie “Pisao”: This kick has been used by the Gracies since UFC1 (Royce, Rickson, Ralek, etc) to close the distance. It’s essentially a slide-in front kick to the knee; while it’s telegraphed and doesn’t usually do much damage, because it targets the legs the risk of having the leg caught is also much lower. Personally, I prefer Jon Jones’ side kick to the knee because I find it a little bit faster, but the techniques are very similar.
- Back leg front kick: This is a telegraphed technique that requires the shoulders and hips to turn, but also has the ability to cause serious damage or even KO the opponent. Kohiruimaki KO’d Nitta Akeomi in 2005 with a back leg front kick to the face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPhij5x2Llg), and Masato used a back leg front kick to the ribs to set up his TKO of Remigijus Morkevicius in 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYTV5yXxak). Within the MMA universe, everyone already knows Anderson Silva used a back leg front kick to KO Vitor Belfort. Also, I believe that Machida used a back leg front kick to hurt Rashad around the 4 minute mark of their first round (Rashad took the kick and a light punch and fell as a result, but he was able to get up immediately).
- Switch-step or slide-in front kick: The switch-step and slide-in front kicks with the lead leg can be very damaging techniques even if they don’t often cause KO’s. A well-timed kick can knock an opponent all the way to the other side of the ring. The only KO I can think of off the top of my head is Machida vs Couture, where the Karate Kid basically used a slide-in front kick (plus some some serious elevation!).
- Crescent kick: This is a traditional karate kick which uses the toe to strike the liver. Unlike the Thai push kick, it uses hip rotation (like a roundhouse) to generate momentum instead of hip thrust, and the striking surface is the big toe instead of the ball of the foot. Hinata used it to KO Artur Kyshenko in 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4hrBT3TEVA) under kickboxing rules, and in MMA Katsunori Kikuno has used it to KO many opponents.
kyo20 - February 12, 2012
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